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jmdc
02 Feb 20 11:46
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... Why don't the Irish fcking sort themselves out, instead of trying to do everything different to everyone else!

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By:
Angoose
When: 02 Feb 20 12:09
Unlikely that they’ll yield to the pressure of a forum rant Angry
By:
Angoose
When: 02 Feb 20 12:11
In the UK and Republic of Ireland, there are seven grades of surface, which are:[4]
hard
firm
good to firm
good
good to soft
soft
heavy
Since 2009, in addition to the official description of the going, British racecourses are required to report penetrometer readings on the day of the race. A penetrometer designed by Cranfield University and TurfTrax, known as the 'GoingStick', is used for these measurements.[5] The 'hard' grade is rarely used, as a racetrack with this type of surface is generally deemed to be dangerous to both horses and jockeys. No races took place on tracks rated as 'hard going' between 2008 and 2013.[5]
In Ireland the term "yielding" is used for "good to soft" going.
For artificial surfaces in the UK the official grades are:
fast
standard to fast
standard
standard to slow
slow
By:
Angoose
When: 02 Feb 20 12:12
For yielding, just think good to soft, not so tough, eh Grin
By:
1st time poster
When: 02 Feb 20 12:21
good with a bit of give,tues of chelt ground,no excuse ground,but doesn't suit giggy,s swamp lovers hence all the crying
By:
jmdc
When: 02 Feb 20 12:38
Carry on Angoose - Good to Yielding, Yielding to Soft?  Can you put them in your little chart please, so Muggins here can understand?  Going stick readings would of course be a tremendous help - I doubt if the Irish use those either!
By:
sparrow
When: 02 Feb 20 12:45
That's the beauty of the AW surfaces. Whatever ground they declare on turf half the trainers will disagree.
By:
jmdc
When: 02 Feb 20 12:46
^ That doesn't mean there has to be more of them sparrow!
By:
sparrow
When: 02 Feb 20 12:48
Possibly so, jmdc.
By:
MJK
When: 02 Feb 20 19:32

Feb 2, 2020 -- 12:38PM, jmdc wrote:


Carry on Angoose - Good to Yielding, Yielding to Soft?

By:
MJK
When: 02 Feb 20 19:34
Yielding is slightly worse than good. So in declaring yielding to soft instead of good to soft they're tightening the ground description instead of just saying good to soft. Plenty of times in the UK ground is described as good to soft when there's actually no good in it.
By:
roggrain
When: 03 Feb 20 11:03
There are more descriptions and variations of the going than you can point a stick at (pun intended)!
By:
Angoose
When: 04 Feb 20 13:14
Hard
Firm
Good to Firm
Good
Good / Good to Soft or Good to Yielding
Good to Soft or Yielding
Good to Soft / Soft or Yielding to Soft
Soft
Heavy

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