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stridingedge
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Q and A’s regarding the competition format and rules.

How many selections must be made?

Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.

The calculation for no shows which cannot be exceeded is Days Of The Month - 25
So for January 31-25 = 6 possible days when an entrant can refrain from offering a selection

Void runners will not be viewed in the same way.Whilst substitutes can be offered at any point following all the usual rules, a failure to replace a void runner will not be used as a strike in the same way as a No Show.So in theory for a month, an entrant may still be accepted for posting less than 25 selections so long as the no show limit is not exceeded.

What criteria do selections need to satisfy?

Selections must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or place markets on Betfair.

Are win and place markets settled in the same way?

Win markets allow for a choice between an early price to be taken or BFSP, whereas place markets will ALWAYS be settled at BFSP.The reason for the difference being the sluggish liquidity difference between those markets and thus the credibility of early prices.

When must selections be posted? (please read this carefully)

A selections thread for the following days racing will usually be posted between 4-5pm, in the event I am not around at this time the selections thread may be put up sooner.

The competition will have 2 phases for the selections process.
Phase 1 will be from the time the selections thread is posted until 8am the following day (race day).

In this phase there is an opportunity primarily for those that are not around on race day to still be able to take part.Selections given during this time will be settled at BFSP unless a bet meeting the competition liability (current bank / 20) is posted on the selections thread to show it was feasible. The reason for this request at this stage is the volatility and slackness of the market and subsequent ?? over the credibility of an early price taken.

Eg the starting liability in the comp is £50 so a qualifying bet at the stated price must be posted for a minimum of that liability to be settled as such.

Selections posted with prices that aren’t verified in the above fashion will still be allowed but settled at BFSP so long as they still satisfy the price limit of max odds 6.0.

Entrants are more than welcome to offer a couple of substitutes if they know they will not be around to change any selections deemed void.Substitutes that qualify will then be used in the event of a void first choice.

Phase 2 will be from 8am until t-2mins of race time (so 12:00 race would need entry no later than 11:57am) on the given race day.

In this phase of the market, Entrants can take an early price (no posted bet required) as last price matched when posting or leave their selection to be settled at BFSP.Note again that place market selections will always be settled at BFSP at whatever phase of the markets.

How are selections staked and returns calculated?

Selections are staked to a fixed 5% liability of an entrant’s current bank with a 2% commission rate which recently has become widely available on Betfair.

Where a price has been taken this will be used in settlement even if the BFSP returns greater than the permitted 6.0 max limit.
If deductions occur in the market after this price was taken, the taken price will be adjusted accordingly and so will the relevant staking for that selection to stay at the 5% liability of current bank.

Where a price has not been taken settlement will as in phase 1 of the market be at BFSP.

Where can the current standings be seen and who wins the comp?

The days results will be posted on the days selections thread on this forum, the overall standings will be over on the Your Comps forum.The winner will be the entrant with the biggest bank at the end of the month.
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Report posy January 13, 2020 9:08 AM GMT
never alone  18.50wol @1.65
Report TheNorfolkMafia January 13, 2020 10:04 AM GMT
Private Matter - 14.30 Southwell (Last price matched:2.64)
Report Deplasterer January 13, 2020 10:05 AM GMT
1.05 Lingfield The Gipper. Place lay.

Ta SE.
Report exactaman January 13, 2020 10:28 AM GMT
2.05 Lingfield | A Perfect Gift | Place Lay

Many Thx Striding
Report Andrew.in.Sweden January 13, 2020 10:49 AM GMT
Billyfairplay - 4.50 Wolverhampton

Good luck all
Report flatcap January 13, 2020 10:52 AM GMT
4.50W Billyfairplay LPM 2.44


Thanks Striding your hard work much appreciated.
Report happysandwich January 13, 2020 10:56 AM GMT
Oi !! Flatcap that’s cheating you just nicked Andrew selection. Laugh
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 11:07 AM GMT
People still trying to take prices pre 8am without posting matched bets Cry
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 11:08 AM GMT
These will all be settled at BFSP
Report flatcap January 13, 2020 11:08 AM GMT
I was actually going to select another horse when I had seen AIS had already selected Billyfairplay.

Was really struggling to find a selection short enough to lay. No interest in Lingfield it'll be virtually unraceable. The only other horse I was looking at was Raymond Tusk. Looks a match.

Cant believe I'm top of the table as I'm the worst layer in the country

HappyHappy


Good luck with your selection Happy
Report tanglefoot January 13, 2020 11:10 AM GMT
Laser 6.20 Wolverhampton @ 3.55
Report tanglefoot January 13, 2020 11:10 AM GMT
Above should read Kaser
Report happysandwich January 13, 2020 11:11 AM GMT
Southwell 1.55 Luck Of Clover

Thanks Striding.
Report Jenkos' January 13, 2020 11:17 AM GMT
Suitcase n Taxi - 2:30 Southwell @ 3.5
Many thanks Striding
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 11:18 AM GMT
Doesn't say much for the rest of us Flatcap. Laugh

I'm trying to select lower odds and realizing quickly the strong fancies don't grow on trees as one would expect.
Report flatcap January 13, 2020 11:23 AM GMT
Trying to give other players some encouragement. My pin will become rusty at some point, Possibly today.

I entered to try and stay in profit. My theory was lay at under 3 and get 7 out of 10 beaten for a small profit.

Never thought it would work
LaughLaugh

But its a marathon not a sprint.

Good luck with your selection today Striding
Report east end boy January 13, 2020 11:23 AM GMT
3.35 Southwell Never a Word (4.7)

Thank You
Report rob22 January 13, 2020 11:27 AM GMT
Navajo Dawn 12.55 south 5.9
Thanks Striding
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 13, 2020 11:31 AM GMT
My Excelsa. - 12-55 Southwell @ 5.9.
Report happysandwich January 13, 2020 11:37 AM GMT
^^^^^
rob22

Navajo Dawn is in the 13.25 Southwell, and it’s 2.68 at the moment – not 5.9
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 11:43 AM GMT
I think that's the only race market I didn't check too Shocked

stewards needed on this one, hopefully rob is around to clarify.

Cheers Happy good spot. Wink
Report youresomean January 13, 2020 12:01 PM GMT
The Gipper - 1.05 Lingfield @ 3.10 matchef

Thanks
Report MinnieLAI January 13, 2020 12:03 PM GMT
13.05 Lingfield | Flaminger | 2.12 Matched
Report smirnoff2therescue January 13, 2020 12:14 PM GMT
Le Manege Enchante - 12.25 Southwell 3.95
Report china castle January 13, 2020 12:22 PM GMT
Aquarius - 12.25 Southwell Place

Thanks
Report madhatters January 13, 2020 12:47 PM GMT
Young Tiger 12.55 Sth

Cheers Stride
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 12:52 PM GMT
Me too Hatters I put this up to win on here its last win at track.

But class/rating catching up with it and small field not ideal for stalking strong traveller

strange 2 horse market IMo

Young tiger place lay 12 :55
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 12:53 PM GMT
GL

Mulrennan better get his out the fecking stalls though over this trip Laugh
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 12:56 PM GMT
Market was right I was too greedy again Devil
Report madhatters January 13, 2020 12:57 PM GMT
UL SE
Had me worried too
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 12:57 PM GMT
They certainly knew about the oirish raider today 10.3 Shocked
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 12:58 PM GMT
This is really going well Cry was expecting better, this place laying is tough.
Report happysandwich January 13, 2020 12:59 PM GMT
Just noticed.

Uptheboro
Le Manege Enchente - 12.25 Southwell


First post on the thread (selected yesterday).

First race of the day.

First one to pick a winner.

Laugh
Report madhatters January 13, 2020 12:59 PM GMT
I'm just glad its not Sunday Laugh
2/2 so far
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 1:01 PM GMT
I think at suvvers best to stick with ?? on the surface + other doubts rather than a hunch the mark might be too high.

Suitcase n taxi later another example, I'm not sure it's finished yet!
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 1:02 PM GMT
Learning curve and I'm still obviously near the bottom with this pre race laying at skinny odds. Sad
Report rob22 January 13, 2020 1:03 PM GMT
Thanks Happy i messed up to much pop last night
Sorry striding,i'll let it ride
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 1:04 PM GMT
ok Rob cheers no worries Wink
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 1:08 PM GMT
Private Matter was my only other real fancy to get done today around the odds so hopefully it romps in now. Laugh
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 13, 2020 1:08 PM GMT
Flaminger  lingfield
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 13, 2020 1:09 PM GMT
1,05  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 13, 2020 1:09 PM GMT
its late off though ,,if its to late ok ,,
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 1:10 PM GMT
too late mymums

I take it the new revised time is 1:10

you have to post by 1:07 if that's the case

Have to be consistent with rules as everyone else has had to stick to!

You can choose again though.
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 1:11 PM GMT
It's weird no one posted late in the first week at all but since...
Report madhatters January 13, 2020 1:11 PM GMT
Was scratching around today to find one
The only other poss was this Flaminger but don't trust the Moores Grin
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 13, 2020 1:15 PM GMT
no probsLaughLaugh
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 13, 2020 1:17 PM GMT
i know its the rules ,,and thats perfectly ok,, but why ,, surely if a lay is posted before the off ,,its ok,,
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 1:17 PM GMT
Hatters what do you reckon suitcase n taxi v private matters ?
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 13, 2020 1:18 PM GMT
at least its not an hour ,,,like over in them comps,,
Report stewarts rise January 13, 2020 1:19 PM GMT
1.35 Ling-Echo Wattt @4.4

Thanks SE.
Report stewarts rise January 13, 2020 1:19 PM GMT
1.35 Ling-Echo Wattt @4.4

Thanks SE.
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 1:20 PM GMT
Yeah I might raise it a minute in future so 11:58 for 12:00 race, the forum clock shouldn't ever be that far out!

People would still post at 11:59 then though. Laugh
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 1:21 PM GMT
nice echo joke there stew Wink
Report madhatters January 13, 2020 1:26 PM GMT
Close call
Both got course form
PM not tried 7f too much so could be the way
Custard dropping & proven
Report stewarts rise January 13, 2020 1:29 PM GMT
Echo What Echo, Echo Watt i mean not Whattt!Laugh
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 1:35 PM GMT
You must seriously know something if you are fancying echo watt today looks a ludicrous price, late sheep taking hold ??
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 13, 2020 1:36 PM GMT

Jan 13, 2020 -- 1:20PM, stridingedge wrote:


Yeah I might raise it a minute in future so 11:58 for 12:00 race, the forum clock shouldn't ever be that far out!People would still post at 11:59 then though.


LaughLaughLaughLaugh

Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 1:38 PM GMT
Your gamble looks like its gonna tank through its race stew

whether it jumps and gets home on this ground another matter IMO Plain
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 1:39 PM GMT
ie it was really buzzy to post and has that tendency.
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 1:46 PM GMT
Never in doubt Stew Laugh

what a race!
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 1:49 PM GMT
Flushgordon1

Flight To Milan went off too big a price so VOID

You can choose again today if you wish.
Report SontaranStratagem January 13, 2020 1:49 PM GMT
Harbour Front Southwell 1:55 3.05
Report SontaranStratagem January 13, 2020 1:49 PM GMT
Cheers SE
Report SontaranStratagem January 13, 2020 1:59 PM GMT
Ridiculous

That 2 days where my lay has been under massive pressure first and found and found Crazy
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 1:59 PM GMT
Sad
Report SontaranStratagem January 13, 2020 2:00 PM GMT
Funny thing is when its the nap under pressure first it finishes out with the washing 99.9% of the time Laugh
Report Movewiththetimes January 13, 2020 2:25 PM GMT
Suitcase and taxi to place South 2-30 Thanks SE
Report The Management January 13, 2020 2:26 PM GMT
14:30 Southwell: Custard the Dragon (Place Lay)

Cheers SE.
Report madhatters January 13, 2020 2:32 PM GMT
Knock the skin off that stride Grin
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 2:33 PM GMT
Grin
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 2:34 PM GMT
Movewiththetimes wd Happy
Report The Management January 13, 2020 2:36 PM GMT
Well done madhatters - it was a very conflicted (place) lay on my part! - but trainer completely unable to buy a winner for the best part of a year! - until today! Blush
Report Movewiththetimes January 13, 2020 2:37 PM GMT
Thanks SE stopped the rot Grin
Report Andrew.in.Sweden January 13, 2020 2:47 PM GMT
Oi !! Flatcap that’s cheating you just nicked Andrews selection

Happysandwich, that isn't a positive Laugh
Report pumphol. January 13, 2020 2:58 PM GMT
Age Of Wisdom - 3.45 Lin Place Lay

Thanks
Report Cheify January 13, 2020 2:59 PM GMT
Tempted to go for Never Alone but 16.50 Wolv Angel Palanas
Report Marathon Man January 13, 2020 3:01 PM GMT
Lingfield. 15:10.  Epsom Des Mottes.   2.10

Thanks s e.
Report hello :-) January 13, 2020 3:28 PM GMT
le musee 15.35 southwell
Report flushgordon1 January 13, 2020 3:34 PM GMT
Raymond Tusk Wolves 5.50
Report flushgordon1 January 13, 2020 3:39 PM GMT
Ta
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 3:48 PM GMT
Pumphol

Just missed the price limit on your place bet went off 6.2

You can select again this evening if you want.
Report dukeofpuke January 13, 2020 3:50 PM GMT
5.50  Wolverhampton Raymond Tusk 1.97
Report OilyWragg January 13, 2020 4:03 PM GMT
4.20 Eloquent Poet, 2 place market. Thank you.
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 4:17 PM GMT
Oilywrag we are only doing the standard place markets

If I am not around once the prices go there is no way to find them

so this race would be 3 places is ok but other place markets no good I'm afraid.
Report Tiger Tiger January 13, 2020 4:20 PM GMT
Ok, normal place market will do.
Report Tiger Tiger January 13, 2020 4:20 PM GMT
Ok, normal place market will do.
Report Tiger Tiger January 13, 2020 4:20 PM GMT
Only jesting Oily. kick him oot striding.
Report adamanty January 13, 2020 4:22 PM GMT
Wolv..7.20..Thunderoad..5.6.
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 4:28 PM GMT
OilyWragg wanted 2 places so VOID, If he'd wanted 3 he'd have asked for 3.

You can Pick another this evening Oily Wink
Report pumphol. January 13, 2020 4:30 PM GMT
A lucky reprieve Blush

Raymond Tusk lay @ 1.91

Thanks
Report pumphol. January 13, 2020 4:31 PM GMT
oops that's 5.50 Wolver
Report OilyWragg January 13, 2020 4:33 PM GMT
Didnt realise you couldnt lay in the 2 place market, thought I'd seen others do it. Never mind, rules are rules Happy
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 4:35 PM GMT
Yes we were doing the esxtra markets but one day I wasn't around to see the prices and you can't access the prices for those extra markets anywhere once the market closes (if they don't place).

we decided last week just standard markets you obviously weren't around at the time so no worries Wink
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 13, 2020 4:44 PM GMT
Billyfairplay  4.50 wolverhampton
Report Aquarius January 13, 2020 5:19 PM GMT
Funny Kid - 5.50 Wolverhampton (BSP)
Report OilyWragg January 13, 2020 7:17 PM GMT
7.20 Thunderoad, lets try the place market, thank you.
Report OilyWragg January 13, 2020 7:20 PM GMT
Seconds later, money comes in for it Crazy
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 7:27 PM GMT
Shane Kelly worked miracles to get that beat tonight
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 7:41 PM GMT


    Entrant        Selection        Race        Odds        BFSP        Re        su        lt        Stake        RaceP&L   
                                                                               
    invicta        Angel Palanas        16:50 Wolv        2.85        2.85        3        /        5        25.08        24.58   
    flushgordon1        Raymond Tusk        17:50 Wolv        1.89        1.89        4        /        5        57.83        56.67   
    madhatter        Flaminger        13:05 Ling        2.00        2.00        3        /        4        46.25        45.32   
    Minnie LAI        Flaminger        13:05 Ling        2.12        2.00        3        /        4        43.85        42.97   
    bustino        High Up In The Air        15:10 Ling        3.65        3.05        3        /        7        21.47        21.04   
    GlASGOWCALLING        My Excelsa        12:55 Sout        5.90        10.60        5        /        6        11.06        10.84   
    mymumsfinethankyou        Billyfairplay        16:50 Wolv        2.50        2.50        2        /        5        32.99        32.33   
    The Norfolk Mafia        Private Matter        14:30 Sout        2.64        3.40        5        /        6        30.62        30.01   
    11kv        La Musee        15:35 Sout        2.58        2.58        1        /        7        31.52        -49.80   
    exactaman        A Perfect Gift (plc)        14:05 Ling        2.12        2.12        B        /        7        30.70        30.09   
    Deplasterer        The Gipper (plc)        13:05 Ling        1.65        1.65        2        /        4        57.76        -37.54   
    Jenkos'        Suitcase n Taxi        14:30 Sout        3.50        3.11        4        /        6        19.98        19.58   
    Oilywragg        Thunder Road (plc)        19:20 Wolv        1.85        1.85        2        /        12        51.27        -43.58   
    Different Gravy        No Selection                                                                   
    adamanty        Thunder Road        19:20 Wolv        5.60        4.50        2        /        12        11.67        11.44   
    flatcap        Billyfairplay        16:50 Wolv        2.44        2.50        2        /        5        44.75        43.86   
    smirnofftotherescue        Le Manege Enchente        12:25 Sout        3.92        3.75        1        /        10        18.42        -53.75   
    youresomean        The Gipper        13:05 Ling        3.10        3.67        2        /        4        21.43        21.00   
    Andrew.in.Sweden        Billyfairplay        16:50 Wolv        2.50        2.50        2        /        5        29.78        29.19   
    happysandwich        Luck Of Clover        13:55 Sout        3.83        3.83        3        /        9        17.53        17.18   
    rob22        Navajo Dawn        13:25 Sout        2.72        2.72        1        /        7        29.91        -51.44   
    dukeofpuke        Raymond Tusk        17:50 Wolv        1.97        1.89        4        /        5        47.62        46.67   
    Aquarius        Funny Kid        17:50 Wolv        5.30        5.30        2        /        5        10.75        10.54   
    Tanglefoot        Kaser        18:20 Wolv        3.55        3.30        1        /        7        20.76        -52.93   
    Sontaranstratagem        Harbour Front        13:55 Sout        3.05        3.55        1        /        9        22.62        -46.37   
    The Management        Custard The Dragon (plc)        14:30 Sout        3.48        3.48        1        /        6        21.02        -52.14   
    posy        Never Alone        18:50 Wolv        1.28        1.24        1        /        11        147.73        -40.69   
    pumphol        Raymond Tusk        17:50 Wolv        1.91        1.89        4        /        5        39.31        38.52   
    Marathon Man        Epsom Des Mottes        15:10 Ling        2.10        2.07        2        /        7        41.82        40.99   
    FOYLESWAR        La Musee        15:35 Sout        2.58        2.58        1        /        7        29.15        -46.06   
    stridingedge        Young Tiger (plc)        12:55 Sout        2.02        2.02        2        /        6        47.14        -48.08   
    Lee Ho Fooks        No Selection                                                                   
    angeleyz        No Selection                                                                   
    movewiththetimes        Suitcase n Taxi (plc)        14:30 Sout        1.63        1.63        4        /        6        59.67        58.48   
    Airman        Forseti        15:00 Sout        5.56        5.56        1        /        6        8.64        -39.41   
    madhatters        Young Tiger        12:55 Sout        4.03        4.03        2        /        6        16.87        16.54   
    eastendboy        Never A Word        15:35 Sout        4.70        6.20        3        /        7        14.00        13.72   
    hello:-)        La Musee        15:35 Sout        2.58        2.58        1        /        7        31.95        -50.47   
    stewarts rise        Echo Watt        13:35 Ling        4.40        4.46        2        /        9        14.86        14.56   
    china castle        Aquarius (plc)        12:25 Sout        2.78        2.78        4        /        10        22.44        22.00   
    Cheify        Angel Palanas        16:50 Wolv        2.85        2.85        3        /        5        21.54        21.11   
    sonofshinner        Finnegans Garden        13:05 Ling        5.80        5.50        1        /        4        10.86        -52.12   
    uptheboro        Le Manege Enchente        12:25 Sout        3.75        3.75        1        /        10        16.78        -46.14   





Thread Total £8.72   
Month Total -£1,778.27
Report stridingedge January 13, 2020 7:56 PM GMT
Table is up in your comps
Cheers
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