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stridingedge
09 Jan 20 17:38
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Q and A’s regarding the competition format and rules.

How many selections must be made?

Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.

The calculation for no shows which cannot be exceeded is Days Of The Month - 25
So for January 31-25 = 6 possible days when an entrant can refrain from offering a selection

Void runners will not be viewed in the same way.Whilst substitutes can be offered at any point following all the usual rules, a failure to replace a void runner will not be used as a strike in the same way as a No Show.So in theory for a month, an entrant may still be accepted for posting less than 25 selections so long as the no show limit is not exceeded.

What criteria do selections need to satisfy?

Selections must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or place markets on Betfair.

Are win and place markets settled in the same way?

Win markets allow for a choice between an early price to be taken or BFSP, whereas place markets will ALWAYS be settled at BFSP.The reason for the difference being the sluggish liquidity difference between those markets and thus the credibility of early prices.

When must selections be posted? (please read this carefully)

A selections thread for the following days racing will usually be posted between 4-5pm, in the event I am not around at this time the selections thread may be put up sooner.

The competition will have 2 phases for the selections process.
Phase 1 will be from the time the selections thread is posted until 8am the following day (race day).

In this phase there is an opportunity primarily for those that are not around on race day to still be able to take part.Selections given during this time will be settled at BFSP unless a bet meeting the competition liability (current bank / 20) is posted on the selections thread to show it was feasible. The reason for this request at this stage is the volatility and slackness of the market and subsequent ?? over the credibility of an early price taken.

Eg the starting liability in the comp is £50 so a qualifying bet at the stated price must be posted for a minimum of that liability to be settled as such.

Selections posted with prices that aren’t verified in the above fashion will still be allowed but settled at BFSP so long as they still satisfy the price limit of max odds 6.0.

Entrants are more than welcome to offer a couple of substitutes if they know they will not be around to change any selections deemed void.Substitutes that qualify will then be used in the event of a void first choice.

Phase 2 will be from 8am until t-2mins of race time (so 12:00 race would need entry no later than 11:57am) on the given race day.

In this phase of the market, Entrants can take an early price (no posted bet required) as last price matched when posting or leave their selection to be settled at BFSP.Note again that place market selections will always be settled at BFSP at whatever phase of the markets.

How are selections staked and returns calculated?

Selections are staked to a fixed 5% liability of an entrant’s current bank with a 2% commission rate which recently has become widely available on Betfair.

Where a price has been taken this will be used in settlement even if the BFSP returns greater than the permitted 6.0 max limit.
If deductions occur in the market after this price was taken, the taken price will be adjusted accordingly and so will the relevant staking for that selection to stay at the 5% liability of current bank.

Where a price has not been taken settlement will as in phase 1 of the market be at BFSP.

Where can the current standings be seen and who wins the comp?

The days results will be posted on the days selections thread on this forum, the overall standings will be over on the Your Comps forum.The winner will be the entrant with the biggest bank at the end of the month.
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Report stridingedge January 9, 2020 5:39 PM GMT
Please can everyone be careful if posting their selections approaching race time, when the betfair clock is 2 mins before the official race time it's too late! I really don't want to see people miss out because of this rule breach!

Cheers.
Report uptheboro January 9, 2020 6:51 PM GMT
Rulers Kingdom - 12.35 Lingfield Place Lay

Cheers Striding
Report angeleyz January 9, 2020 7:59 PM GMT
titus bolt - 12.15 sedgefield @ 2.74 last price matched

ty striding
Report stridingedge January 9, 2020 8:30 PM GMT
angeleyz I'm really sorry but you need to post a bet for your competition liability (current bank / 20) to be able to get a price before 8am. I did explain this again a few days ago. Wink

This will be settled at sp but if you want to change it as you were not aware of this rule you may on this occasion.
Report stridingedge January 9, 2020 8:31 PM GMT
The markets are usually so poor this early the prices are seeing shrapnel traded between volatile points. After 8am raceday last price matched is allowed.
Report SontaranStratagem January 9, 2020 8:45 PM GMT
Didn't the market use to be better in the early days?
Report invicta January 9, 2020 8:50 PM GMT
Butterfield  4.45 Wolverhampton

thanks stridingedge
Report bustino January 9, 2020 9:59 PM GMT
MORMON 2.40 Thurles  bfsp

Evening striding can i put in a reserve as out all day tommorrow if first selection is nr or exceeds sp rule

HEAVEN HELPS US 2.25 Thurles bfsp

Cheers Strid
Report madhatter January 9, 2020 10:30 PM GMT
Ard Abhainn 2.25 Thurles please se.
Was going well.....until the last three days!!!!!BlushBlushBlushSadSad
Report angeleyz January 9, 2020 10:55 PM GMT
apologies striding i was aware of the rule just me being stupid, typing as i was thinking. i will leave the selection at sp if that is okay. ty
Report Deplasterer January 10, 2020 2:45 AM GMT
Fox power 1.10 Lingfield. Place lay.

Ta SE.
Report Cheify January 10, 2020 5:51 AM GMT
13.45 Lingfield Steelriver
Report flushgordon1 January 10, 2020 8:06 AM GMT
Mormon Thurles 12.40
Report sonofshinner January 10, 2020 8:13 AM GMT
Sedg.2.00 Protek Des Flos @5.7..cheers stride.
Report Movewiththetimes January 10, 2020 8:45 AM GMT
Thurles 1-50 Tronador 2.2 Thanks SE
Report TheNorfolkMafia January 10, 2020 8:53 AM GMT
Honourmission - 12.15 Sedgefield (Last price matched:3.85)
Report exactaman January 10, 2020 9:02 AM GMT
6.15 Wolves | Waleydd | 1.42(LPM)

Many Thx Striding
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 10, 2020 9:18 AM GMT
12.35 Ling Moondance
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 10, 2020 10:29 AM GMT
Bit on the side. - 2-45 Huntingdon. @ 4.9.
Report Jenkos' January 10, 2020 10:33 AM GMT
Reeves - 1:10 Lingfield @ 4.6
Many thanks Striding
Report pumphol. January 10, 2020 10:39 AM GMT
Breguet Boy - 5.45 Wolver Place lay

Thanks
Report stewarts rise January 10, 2020 11:05 AM GMT
Bertie Bolt-12.15 Sedge @ 3.8

Thanks SE
Report FOYLESWAR January 10, 2020 11:06 AM GMT
12.45 thurles  heaven help us @ 4
Report happysandwich January 10, 2020 11:09 AM GMT
Sedgefield 12.15 Bertie Blake

Thanks Striding.
Report cardenden January 10, 2020 11:23 AM GMT
Arthurs Reuben  1,35 huntingdon
Report cardenden January 10, 2020 11:24 AM GMT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this is posted for mymumsfinethanks stride ,,if thats ok,,
Report happysandwich January 10, 2020 11:24 AM GMT
Stewarts Rise

Is that :-

Bertie Bolt-12.15 Sedge @ 3.8
Or
Titus Blake -12.15 Sedge @ 3.8

Laugh
Report happysandwich January 10, 2020 11:44 AM GMT
^^^^
Sorry we can't have postal votes.
Report sonofshinner January 10, 2020 11:46 AM GMT
ive a NR in 2.00 stride..can i have honourmission @4.5 in 12.15...thanks again..
Report youresomean January 10, 2020 11:50 AM GMT
Whos The Boss - 2.45 Huntingdon @ 2.82 matched

thanks
Report rob22 January 10, 2020 12:01 PM GMT
Huntingham off
Report madhatters January 10, 2020 12:06 PM GMT
Salkeev 3.25 Ling

Jimmy G did a lot of us no favours yesterday with his pair
800K pah

Cheers Stride
Report MinnieLAI January 10, 2020 12:10 PM GMT
12.40 Thurles EIRE | Morman | 2.86 Matched
Report tanglefoot January 10, 2020 12:12 PM GMT
Titus Bolt 12.15 Sedgefield
Report rob22 January 10, 2020 12:15 PM GMT
Dove Divine 2.55 Ling 5.9
Thanks
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 10, 2020 12:48 PM GMT
Swap Huntingdon selection to Power Link - 1-10 Lingfield.
 
Cheers.
Report posy January 10, 2020 12:54 PM GMT
hit the beat 15.55 lin  @ 4.1
Report flatcap January 10, 2020 12:59 PM GMT
1.10 Ling Fox Power 2TBP

THanks
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 12:59 PM GMT
stewarts rise

10 Jan 20 11:05
Joined: 22 Apr 04 | Topic/replies: 20,179 | Blogger: stewarts rise's blog

Bertie Bolt-12.15 Sedge @ 3.8

Thanks SE

Answers on a postcode, sorry Stew this is a mix of 2 horses at the top of the market and one of them won ??
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 1:00 PM GMT
I'm late getting this sorted today so that's all I need btw. Laugh
Report smirnoff2therescue January 10, 2020 1:00 PM GMT
Island Hideaway - 2.20 Lingfield 4.0
Report madhatters January 10, 2020 1:05 PM GMT
My postcard would say Bertie as unlikely you start typing wrongly
Backed here at 12.20 3.95
Report adamanty January 10, 2020 1:07 PM GMT
1.10..Lingfield..Power Link
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 1:10 PM GMT
Ok Hatters I'll put it down as Bertie Blake, I wasn't around to see the market but talk about making things bl00dy awkward for me. Tongue Out
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 1:23 PM GMT
Lee Ho Fooks

If you are still about your horse was VOID due to price

was one of my targets last night really weak today!

youresomean

your selection VOID meeting off!

Both of you free to select again today if you wish.
Report madhatters January 10, 2020 1:28 PM GMT
Only my tuppence to try to help you

Happy put it up about 4 mins after SR so might know the price at time
Sure SR will be along soon to straighten out
Need all the losers i can get Laugh
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 1:30 PM GMT
Yes he posted on another fred, unfortunately you were right and winner was layed.

You can be assistant , the job is yours. Laugh
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 1:32 PM GMT
adamanty cutting it fine again but ok today Happy
Report Marathon Man January 10, 2020 1:34 PM GMT
Lingfield  13:45. Moon Trouble.  1.99
Report adamanty January 10, 2020 1:40 PM GMT
Wink
Report hello :-) January 10, 2020 1:41 PM GMT
steelriver 1 45 , if stays within price limit SE
Report hello :-) January 10, 2020 1:42 PM GMT
5.3 at moment
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 1:44 PM GMT
Looks like you'll be fine sub 5 now Wink
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 1:45 PM GMT
then again Laugh
Report east end boy January 10, 2020 1:45 PM GMT
2.20 Ling Far Rockaway
Report hello :-) January 10, 2020 1:45 PM GMT
i think so , not if it wins tho Laugh
Report OilyWragg January 10, 2020 1:47 PM GMT
2.00 Instant Replay, 2 place market, thank you.
Report Marathon Man January 10, 2020 1:49 PM GMT
Phew! Thanks Striding.
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 1:57 PM GMT
Happy
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 1:58 PM GMT
brew time

I haven't had time to study today unless I can dig one out at Wolves might be a no show. Plain
Report madhatters January 10, 2020 2:01 PM GMT
Don't think you pay enough to cover the brainache you landed yourself with Laugh
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 10, 2020 2:11 PM GMT

Jan 10, 2020 -- 10:29AM, GLASGOWCALLING wrote:


Bit on the side. - 2-45 Huntingdon. @ 4.9.


you know glasgow ,,i have a bit on the side as well,,in glasgow as it happensLoveLoveLoveLove

Report The Management January 10, 2020 2:14 PM GMT
14:20 Lingfield: Island Hideaway @ 4.10

Thanks Striding!
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 10, 2020 2:23 PM GMT
unlucky P  A  L
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 10, 2020 2:24 PM GMT
Benechenko  2,35 sedgefield
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 2:27 PM GMT
Cardy put you in earlier.

or you put yerself in earlier however weird that would be. Laugh
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 2:30 PM GMT
cardenden
10 Jan 20 11:23
Joined: 27 Feb 17 | Topic/replies: 11,140 | Blogger: cardenden's blog
Arthurs Reuben  1,35 huntingdon
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cardenden
10 Jan 20 11:24
Joined: 27 Feb 17 | Topic/replies: 11,140 | Blogger: cardenden's blog
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this is posted for mymumsfinethanks stride ,,if thats ok,,
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 2:30 PM GMT
Blush just realized Cry

no probs
Report SontaranStratagem January 10, 2020 2:31 PM GMT
Noble Peace 2:55 Lingfield place lay (3 places)

Thanks SE
Report flatcap January 10, 2020 2:35 PM GMT
SontaranStratagem
10 Jan 20 14:31
Joined: 30 Aug 17 | Topic/replies: 13,048 | Blogger: SontaranStratagem's blog
Noble Peace 2:55 Lingfield place lay (3 places)

Brave lay. Good luck.

Cool
Report Airman January 10, 2020 2:39 PM GMT
Sedgefield 15:05 Linelee King

Thanks SE.
Report happysandwich January 10, 2020 2:44 PM GMT
Madhatters,

“Happy put it up about 4 mins after SR so might know the price at time
Sure SR will be along soon to straighten out
Need all the losers i can get”


We both need all the losers we can get. Laugh
Report cardenden January 10, 2020 2:53 PM GMT
Stride i did ask younto withdraw me ..as there were complaints about me taking part .due to other posters knowing they would have no chance of winning..with me in...so we had better leave it like that pal..
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 10, 2020 2:54 PM GMT

Jan 10, 2020 -- 2:27PM, stridingedge wrote:


Cardy put you in earlier.or you put yerself in earlier however weird that would be.


LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

good reply cardenden,,

Report SontaranStratagem January 10, 2020 3:03 PM GMT

Jan 10, 2020 -- 2:35PM, flatcap wrote:


SontaranStratagem 10 Jan 20 14:31 Joined: 30 Aug 17 | Topic/replies: 13,048 | Blogger: SontaranStratagem's blog Noble Peace 2:55 Lingfield place lay (3 places)Brave lay. Good luck.


A silly lay now CryLaugh

Report cardenden January 10, 2020 3:36 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaugh
Report Andrew.in.Sweden January 10, 2020 3:42 PM GMT
Energumene – 4.00 Thurles

Good luck all
Report 11kv January 10, 2020 5:05 PM GMT
19.15 Wolves Qaaraat BFSP

Thanks
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 7:21 PM GMT
WD 11kv Happy

You are probably the last today but best leave it till 8:30

be back then for scores.
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 8:32 PM GMT


    Entrant        Selection        Race        Odds        BFSP        Re        su        lt        Stake        RaceP&L   
                                                                               
    invicta        Butterfield        16:45 Wolv        4.80        4.80        1        /        12        12.23        -46.48   
    flushgordon1        Mormon        12:40 Thur        2.56        2.56        2        /        12        32.46        31.81   
    madhatter        Ard Abhainn        14:25 Thur        2.88        2.88        1        /        9        24.15        -45.40   
    Minnie LAI        Mormon        12:40 Thur        2.86        2.56        2        /        12        25.98        25.46   
    bustino        Mormon        12:40 Thur        2.56        2.56        2        /        12        39.19        38.40   
    GlASGOWCALLING        Power Link        13:10 ling        4.61        4.61        2        /        6        14.38        14.09   
    mymumsfinethankyou        Benechenko        14:35 Sedg        5.79        5.79        3        /        7        10.59        10.38   
    The Norfolk Mafia        Honourmission        12:15 Sedg        3.85        4.42        3        /        11        16.71        16.37   
    11kv        Qaaraat        19:15 Wolv        4.00        4.00        4        /        9        17.19        16.85   
    exactaman        Waleydd        18:15 Wolv        1.42        1.23        1        /        7        95.50        -40.11   
    Deplasterer        Fox Power (plc)        13:10 ling        2.31        2.31        6        /        6        30.61        30.00   
    Jenkos'        Reeves        13:10 ling        4.60        5.58        1        /        6        14.14        -50.90   
    Oilywragg        Instant Replay (plc)        14:00 Sedg        1.64        1.64        1        /        6        66.84        -42.78   
    Different Gravy        No Selection                                                                   
    adamanty        Power Link        13:10 ling        4.61        4.61        2        /        6        14.53        14.24   
    flatcap        Fox Power (plc)        13:10 ling        2.31        2.31        6        /        6        44.82        43.93   
    smirnofftotherescue        Island Hideaway        14:20 Ling        4.00        3.56        1        /        4        18.09        -54.27   
    youresomean        Void Selection                                                                   
    Andrew.in.Sweden        Energumene        16:00 Thur        1.87        1.87        1        /        14        52.66        -45.81   
    happysandwich        Bertie Blake        12:15 Sedg        3.80        3.59        1        /        11        19.28        -53.97   
    rob22        Dove Divine        14:55 Ling        5.90        6.80        5        /        10        11.52        11.29   
    dukeofpuke        No Selection                                                                   
    Aquarius        No Selection                                                                   
    Tanglefoot        Titus Bolt        12:15 Sedg        4.30        4.30        2        /        11        15.37        15.06   
    Sontaranstratagem        Noble Peace (plc)        14:55 Ling        1.37        1.37        1        /        10        146.19        -54.09   
    The Management        Island Hideaway        14:20 Ling        4.10        3.56        1        /        4        18.15        -56.26   
    posy        Hit The Beat        15:55 Ling        4.10        4.90        4dh        /        8        14.32        14.03   
    pumphol        Breguet Boy (plc)        17:45 Wolv        3.10        3.10        1        /        5        19.87        -41.72   
    Marathon Man        Moon Trouble        13:45 Ling        1.99        2.21        2        /        4        46.61        45.68   
    FOYLESWAR        Heaven Help Us        14:25 Thur        4.00        4.10        3        /        9        14.51        14.22   
    stridingedge        No Selection                                                                   
    Lee Ho Fooks        Void Selection                                                                   
    angeleyz        Titus Bolt        12:15 Sedg        4.30        4.30        2        /        11        15.67        15.36   
    movewiththetimes        Tronador        13:50 Thur        2.20        2.29        1        /        11        36.54        -43.85   
    Airman        Linelee King        15:05 Sedg        1.90        1.90        1        /        10        44.18        -39.76   
    madhatters        Salkeev        15:25 Ling        4.50        4.50        8        /        10        14.81        14.51   
    eastendboy        Far Rockaway        14:20 Ling        2.71        2.71        3        /        4        28.76        28.18   
    hello:-)        Steel River        13:45 Ling        5.30        5.30        3        /        4        11.96        11.72   
    stewarts rise        Bertie Blake        12:15 Sedg        3.80        3.59        1        /        11        18.26        -51.12   
    china castle        No Selection                                                                   
    Cheify        Steel River        13:45 Ling        5.30        5.30        3        /        4        8.91        8.73   
    waccoe75        No Selection                                                                   
    sonofshinner        Honourmission        12:15 Sedg        4.50        4.42        3        /        11        14.23        13.94   
    uptheboro        Rulers Kingdom (plc)        12:35 Ling        2.19        2.19        1        /        8        38.52        -45.84   



Thread Total -£278.10 
Month Total -£1,422.28
Report stridingedge January 10, 2020 8:45 PM GMT
Table is up in your comps
cheers all
Report 11kv January 10, 2020 10:07 PM GMT
Thanks Striding ,sorry for the late evening selection Happy
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