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Fakir D V Samcro
Fakir D V Samcro
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You have to be joking about the Arkle unless Samcro learns to jump more quickly. You only have to slow into 2 fences in that race and you are out of it. The 2.5 miler would make more sense but so would the Stayers hurdle.
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Kennedy knew he had him covered and did not need a big jump but there again he did not need to put in a short one either , heads he wins tails he loses
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did jockey punch ground after 2nd race where he clattered 3 of last 4 hurdles and was as weak as a kitten on the run in,kennedy proving to be no worse or better than 2 dozen other jockeys
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They fall for a reason usually because they are getting a wee bit tired.
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if I was backing one to reverse form next time I,d be on the hurdler not samcro
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jumped the fence fine, slid on landing not a tired fall imo
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Well if Samcro was not getting tired after that gruelling pace he must be a Supaaastar inded.
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Gruelling pace that was 23 seconds slow
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Gruelling pace that was 23 seconds slow
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Sageform, I was talking about the winner.
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fack me there was daylight between the first two so I don't think they hacked around.
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Probaby stretching it a bit to say a gruelling pace but that was no Sunday Saunter.
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both stand up Samcro wins,imo,but
he never,I backed him |
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Well I think Samcro gets beat if he stands up.
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O Brien doesn't seem to be dismissing an Arkle route yet for Fakir.
"He has plenty of options and we could go over 2m at Leopardstown or 2 1/2m at Limerick". The last sentence though in that "He will probably stay further in time" would be comtradictory. I would be with you Deptford if he were mine. |
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Sorry Deptford. In that case I agree. He could go Arkle or JLT. He is a quick jumper and clearly not slow on the level so I would go Arkle unless JP has a better one for that. Samcro might learn to jump at speed but he has history over hurdles when they quicken. He is too big for his own good imo. Ascot Gold Cup perhaps?
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No need to say sorry mate.
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The race was hard to call , but Samcro did not jump as well as the winner.......what about the effortless winner of the Irish Grand National?
How on earth do people calculate handicaps on performances like that ? |
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cracking jumper for a novice.
Has 1 hell of a rounded action not many get their knee much higher when galloping. Would go Arkle as put plenty under pressure with his jumping. |
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jumped big a few times though
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Gained 2 lengths on Samcro at most fences because Samcro slowed down each time.
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Brilliant round of jumping from the winner,having said that if Samcro had stood up I reckon he'd have won easy!!!, was running all over Fakir despite giving ground at every fence, he impressed me greatly.
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Yeah what a jumper for a 4 year old...Awesome.
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i backed fakir but was samcro cruising,but who knows
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*samcro was cruising
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I think that in time Samcro may well fulfill all that we thought of him, we're all eulogizing about Fakir's jumping and that is right, but how much of an engine must Samcro have to give a heap of ground all the way around but at the point of departure, the jockey hadn't even breathed on him.!!
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world & his wife could see samcro was absolutely hacking up ... was 4's on before it came down
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I just wish I knew whether he'd be targeted at the JLT or RSA.
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He's cruising 2 out in pretty much every race he runs
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put it this way if they ran again id back samcro
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pull him out wide to avoid a race and he wins
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Samcro is a bridle horse ffs everbody knows that.
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Did Samcro not win the Ballymore easily eg cruised into the lead and ran on? I'm not too sure he'd win today - he was giving 8lbs to the probable Arkle fav, and winner. But, he was running a very good race just until pecked-on-landing given the weight concession; he had a similar fall over hurdles with Melon alongside - distracted perhaps.
Still a deserved fav for The JLT at 6/1 with/without Fakir D'oudaries, I reckon. |
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No bet in it but I'd be fairly sure Samcro would have won going away the way it was panning out,not taking anything from the winner as that round of jumping was breathtakingly superb.Just my opinion of course.
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You could well be right Punchestown.
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Good evening punchestown I realise now my question about the index for previous runs was an odd question regarding the form book ,what must have happened was the form book was sent without the green update pages,the weekly updates have be sent with the green sheets so all is fine now.
As far as sundays race is concerned like most other racing lovers it was a real shame that we never got to see the finish we hoped for ,I think it’s pretty likely samcro would have won I don’t think he jumped bad fakir just jumped superbly,I think what we did see was samcro is still one hell of a horse he deserves a bit of luck. |
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Agree about Samco's jumping i.e. he jumped like a Novice as opposed to the winner who looked like an old hand.I just hope we get to see Samcro run to its full ability again.Looking forward to seeing the galant winner out again.
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There are so many to look forward to I know we think that way at this time of year most seasons but this season there just seems more than ever before.
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That was a hellava Day's Racing and Envoi Allen and Honeysuckle looked pretty amazing.
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