1000 BSP winner

ripon

was it really 1000 first 2?

If so it must be the first time ever.

yeah I have a feeling he is making two mistakes. the racecourse and the market. was def 1000 in the win market.

I have no record of the 2 place market price but the normal place market of 3 places returned 36.24.

Sorry it was Ripon - but in the first two it was defo 1000 as of course was the win SP.

Doesn't surprise me. The horse was tailed off in a seller on only previous run so you would have had to be an eternal optimist to think it could finish in the first two.

However there is very liquidity in that market so if you had thrown £2 at it at SP, it would probably returned nearer 100-1 than 999/1.

wow

that after the 400 winner in the 1st @ down royal today also

won like a 999 shot should

that has dun me head in. backed it place only. wac i am. 1000 put me off. feels like a bereavement.

Last race - DOWN ROYAL - TODAY

LADY HEATH

1000            £128     Betfair SP  £17

Some poor wag in a betting shop getting ripped off @66/1, scandalous.

what a surprise that was too

8-Jan-20
16:27:50     16:20 Down Royal
Lady Heath - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:193027945738 | Placed: 28-Jan-20 16:17:15     Back     760.00     0.38     --     --
    288.42
    Won

Jan 28, 2020 -- 4:32PM, Deplasterer wrote:

Some poor wag in a betting shop getting ripped off @66/1, scandalous.

just the 933 points difference before commission

LADY HEATH - Winning Bets - Also ...

100            £76       
110            £40       
120            £38       
130            £9       
150            £20       
160            £8       
180            £2       
190            £8       
200            £24       
210            £3       
220            £9       
230            £4       
250            £10       
       
300            £3       
330            £10       
360            £4       
370            £6       
380            £1       
390            £4       
400            £10       
   
450            £12       
460            £1       
490            £9       
500            £2       
510            £8       
520            £4       
540            £11       
550            £1       
560            £7       
570            £12       
580            £1       
   
700            £4       
710            £3       
730            £4       
740            £4       
750            £8       
760            £14       
770            £6       
780            £1       
790            £1       
       
850            £1       
860            £5       
870            £3       
880            £8       
890            £1       
900            £4       
910            £9       
920            £13       
930            £11       
940            £16       
950            £6       
960            £6       
970            £14       
980            £3       
990            £8       
1000            £128   

OUCH !

Onlooker not familiar how this sp works am I right in thinking someone laid £64 at 999/1 ?

Deplasterer 28 Jan 20 16:32 
Some poor wag in a betting shop getting ripped off @66/1, scandalous.






Even the nanny paid 129/1

Beans on toast for our mr shafter tonight...

am I right in thinking someone laid £64 at 999/1?


£64 laid total but obv not necessarily just one person doing the laying

there was a fair bit matched on daq too

Seems the trainer was hoping for a mid div position with the soft ground
It was a "good" surprise when she wun

Deplasterer 28 Jan 20 16:32
Some poor wag in a betting shop getting ripped off @66/1, scandalous.



Some poor layer  on Betfair getting ripped off @1000/1, scandalous.

foxy - Sorry missed replying to your earlier query

Here is the ANSWER ...


onlooker 28 Jan 20 16:30 
Last race - DOWN ROYAL - TODAY

LADY HEATH

1000            £128     Betfair SP  £17
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foxy 28 Jan 20 16:50 

Onlooker not familiar how this sp works am I right in thinking someone laid £64 at 999/1 ?

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duncan idaho 28 Jan 20 17:15 
am I right in thinking someone laid £64 at 999/1?


£64 laid total but obv not necessarily just one person doing the laying
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As I posted earlier ...

onlooker 28 Jan 20 16:30 

Last race - DOWN ROYAL - TODAY

LADY HEATH

1000            £128     Betfair SP  £17

-----

This represents  ...

The £128 MATCHED (Thus £64 STAKED) @ 1000 - is NOT the Betfair SP.

That £128 would All - well mostly, - be in the PRE-RACE Market ... with, possibly/probably some of it Matched @ 1000 through 'In-Running' ... dependant, of course, on how the race was panning out.

The Betfair SP ELEMENT - IS the - £17 Shown in the Far RIGHT Columns of the Bets LADDER.

Unlike the Left-Hand Columns - the 2 Right-Hand Columns show - Firstly - 'Backer's STAKE - and then a large lump (that I have not reproduced here) showing the Layer's LIABILITY.

THEREFORE -

There was £17 STAKED @ 1000  at Betfair SP ...

ASWELL As - £64 Staked (£128 shown Matched) - In the combined PRE-Race and In-Running Markets.

Thanks Duncan/onlooker

I won’t ask why anybody would lay an unraced horse at 999/1 before a race.

I don't think anyone would !Must all have been in the in-running market.

was 1000 pre race as well as in the run

Even the trainers don't always know about their unraced horses. I remember Barney Curley having a first time out winner at 25/1 for that owner friend of his.

posy  29 Jan 20 11:18

I don't think anyone would !Must all have been in the in-running market


was def 1000 before the off

soz, elise has said that!

That winner in the first , 120 Down Royal , Department of War , sp 100/1 , bsp 400 , according to the Racing Post
" ..... eased close home , comfortably ".   David P Dunne (trainer ) " .....and has been working exceptionally well at home...."
Good to see a trainer can still keep a good thing quiet !!

Echo in a post race interview he said he was on his way to have 5 Euro each way on the horse but got distracted.

More believable if we'd heard he'd  layed every other runner on  betfair! Actually is a trainer allowed either option?

Trainers can bet I very much doubt they can lay.

Nikki on the blower
NOW

Echo - to be fair to the trainer who paid 3k for a well bred Hannon cast off that originally cost 260k.  He did say it was working well but that he had nothing to compare it with so he wasnt sure. This comment has some credibitlity since he hadn't had a winner for two years ish.

Department Of War ran in a schooling bumper in December and finished third when he was not fully fit.I say they had a fair idea what they had.

"a fair idea of what they had" - largely unbacked pre-race, on course and on here. Not that fair methinks.

Jan 28, 2020 -- 4:50PM, foxy wrote:

Onlooker not familiar how this sp works am I right in thinking someone laid £64 at 999/1 ?

Not necessarily. If any is cross-matched, it shows up in two different columns. Though in this case, I'm not sure how a bet at 1000 pre-off would be cross-matched from anywhere else.

"Good too see a trainer can still keep a good thing quiet !! "

No sarcasm intended there. If it had been backed into , say, 20s or10s, we'd read what a librarian it was. I imagine it reassures, the trainer to know that all involved at his end can be trusted despite the temptation of such valuable information.

Liberty, Liberty it was, bloody predictive text

Liberty is so precious it must be carefully rationed - Lenin!!!   May not be word perfect but close

I messaged my daughter on fb, saying her mam was over the moon to get a new vulva, how it was much safer than the old one. I corrected it, horrified , Volvo I meant Vulva ,to find it happened again. This iPad alters words once you touch the space bar.That'll be how trump typed comfefete that time. It even tried it for that word typing comfiest.Then I have words censured yet miss-type can't with a u and it's allowed.

@darlo

"I'm not sure how a bet at 1000 pre-off would be cross-matched from anywhere else."

Why's that then?

echo123, funniest post of the day there. You made my day!

Thanks David, I've time on my hands, that's my excuse.My humour is wasted on here, if it was Twitter I could have gone virulent.I just have to make sure that wordly predators crap is switched off, it seems so. And don't even get me started on my emoji disasters, only afterwards am I told what all the hidden meanings supposedly are ( don'teversendpeeledbananaordogturdemojotodaughteremoji)

cloone river   29 Jan 20 18:34

Department Of War ran in a schooling bumper in December and finished 3rd


where can you see the 'results' of these schooling hurdles, Cloone? Irish Field?

Results are not published.Unless your in the know or have a runner going.Thurles have alot of schooling bumpers and hurdles.

cheers cloone

Maybe here?

Opening Post on this Thread is entirely WRONG.

saying that - "the First TWO were both 1000.0 Betfair SP"


INTRINSIC BOND was Second (Industry SP 125/1)

The WINNER - was 10/11 FAV


1:55   Ripon
28 Sep 2019
Theakston Legendary Ales EBF Novice Stakes
(Class 5) (2yo) 6f Good To Soft
1st £3,881.40 2nd £1,155 3rd £577.20 4th £288.60
1 (5)

1st  Lampang  (IRE) 10/11F   David Allan Tim Easterby    9-9    –    75    95    –   
Tracked leader, led going well over 1f out, pushed clear entering final furlong, eased towards finish (tchd Evens)

2nd  Intrinsic Bond  150/1   Cam Hardie  Tracy Waggott     9-2    –    48    69    –   
Held up, soon pushed along, switched left 2f out, ridden and headway approaching final furlong, kept on, went 2nd towards finish (op 125/1)