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Report pa lapsy August 22, 2019 2:35 PM BST
Frankel like,it was freakish
Report HGS August 22, 2019 2:36 PM BST
Hardly broke a sweat destroying that lot. Blimey. Frankel like indeed.
Report SlippyBlue August 22, 2019 2:36 PM BST
That was a joy to watch, a complete and utter demolition job!
Report geoff m August 22, 2019 2:36 PM BST
1.4 quicker than Lowther
Report StillLearning August 22, 2019 2:36 PM BST
nice xmas present for the owners
Report john92 August 22, 2019 2:36 PM BST
A christmas present ffs

I get a jumper I don't like and that doesn't even fit me
Report pa lapsy August 22, 2019 2:38 PM BST
Haha John, maybe this year.
Report pablo-fanque August 22, 2019 2:38 PM BST
john92 , what size and what style is the jumper ?

i might have it

thanks
Report did47 August 22, 2019 2:39 PM BST
Why did Moore need to keep hitting him?
Report pablo-fanque August 22, 2019 2:39 PM BST
btw, was very impressive
Report Big Boss August 22, 2019 2:45 PM BST
Sheikh Mo has just requested his cheque book to be opened
Report kemo sabe August 22, 2019 2:47 PM BST
how much will they get offered     maybe gosdens asking them how much ladies
Report blackbarn August 22, 2019 2:50 PM BST
Geoff M - "1.4 quicker than Lowther"

Carrying 5lb more!!!.
Report impossible123 August 22, 2019 2:51 PM BST
As much as Arazi or Snaffi Dancer? $10m perhaps.
Report FOYLESWAR August 22, 2019 2:53 PM BST
remember sir dragonet lads won its maiden then  won group 2  by 8 lengths and then ..................................................
Report HGS August 22, 2019 3:38 PM BST
Ryan Moore given a 2 day ban for the ride. Hitting the horse when clear.
Report roggrain August 22, 2019 3:43 PM BST
All that is wrong in racing (non-triers galore etc.) and the stupid stewards are punishing a jockey for such a trivial 'offence'.

Only in Britain!
Report HGS August 22, 2019 3:44 PM BST
I agree roggrain. A tad harsh to say the least.
Report SlippyBlue August 22, 2019 6:41 PM BST
That ban is just plain stupid, second time on course in front of a huge crowd and he punched it out to help its education for the future.
Report FELTFAIR August 22, 2019 8:39 PM BST
I counted x5 hits with the whip by Ryan Moore whereas Joe Fanning hit his horse x11 times that I counted to get up and beat Frankie. Was he stood down?
Report blackbarn August 22, 2019 11:16 PM BST
Feltfair - Different offences = different penalties. Fanning got four days!!   There are various sites that give you the facts on these issues that will prevent you from looking ill-informedWink.

Stewards reports are available on here - https://www.britishhorseracing.com/racing/stewards-reports/#!?pagenum=1

The whip rules are most easily understood on here - http://www.thepja.co.uk/members-info/regulatory/useofwhip/
Report michael59 August 22, 2019 11:39 PM BST
blackbarn , no one likes a smart arse son
Report blackbarn August 22, 2019 11:47 PM BST
Smartarse is what I do - I work on the basis that most people want the facts.  I hope my post was helpful to feltfair and perhaps others. I am sorry it was not helpful to you.
Report michael59 August 23, 2019 9:21 AM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaugh  coq
Report impossible123 August 23, 2019 5:32 PM BST
Whatever the rules are just did not look good esp from a senior top jock. Maybe the stewards could look at Moore's rides at Ascot in particular over the last couple of years. They might want to bear that in mind with Ascot in the horizon.
Report blackbarn August 23, 2019 8:02 PM BST
Impossible123 - "Whatever the rules are just did not look good esp from a senior top jock".   Yesterday you thought the rules should apply differently BECAUSE he is a "senior top jock".  Why do you struggle so much to keep your race-reading objective?.
Report pablo-fanque August 23, 2019 8:33 PM BST
forget all that, where is john92 with my jumper ?
Report impossible123 August 23, 2019 8:42 PM BST
I cannot remember ever saying that. You might have come to that conclusion, but I cannot recall stating that; I think I said what Moore did did not look good on tv as it came from a top senior jockey when the horse he was riding was winning easily and running away from the field.

To be absolute frank the workings/rules of the track stewards and/or the BHA are of little interest to me, and only on very rare occasions these would affect any of my selection eg Bondi Beach in the Leger. If so, I'm always philosophical about the outcome - one way or another. Horse racing is only a game, after all.

I've witnessed and experienced tougher environment of investing in the City, business, etc, so the shenanigans taking place in horse racing, the workings/behaviour of the stewards and BHA do not perturb me a jot. However, the jockeys do esp in the present climate where every race/move is recorded and visually available to most **** prepared to seek it thus I'm prepared to offer my opinions - rightly or wrongly - I'm no fence-sitter.

Like it or not what Moore did was not pleasant as a viewer on tv (and I'm a horse racing fan/punter) - what message would that send to those  non-horse racing fan/audience? A horse running away from the field and winning by a mile yet being applied the persuader, and from a top senior jockey too. It was wholly unnecessary.

I've respect for jockeys like Lester, Starkey, Carson, Kinnane, Murtagh, Roberts, Cauthen, Eddery, Dettori and many more, but Moore is not one of them; he's been diabolical at Ascot.
Report blackbarn August 23, 2019 9:25 PM BST
Gosh. Methinks you protest too much.  Anyway, here is what you said...........

"I think the combination of the winning distance and offence committed by a top senior jockey were behind the thinking of the local stewards banning him for two days - he can always appeal. At least then he'd need to speak (up)!"

I'd forgotten that you couldn't resist having a dig at his reticence.
Report FELTFAIR August 24, 2019 12:49 PM BST
impossible 123 is a Ryan Moore serial stalker/bully. NO mention of Joe Fanning, he exclusively for many years has targeted Ryan Moore with his remorseless and relentless criticism.
Report impossible123 August 24, 2019 2:20 PM BST
'blackbairn', thanks for digging that up.

I can assured you that was a tongue-in-cheek comment. To be honest watching it live I thought Moore was merely waving the whip, but was surprised he got two days. Only then I realised he got that for using it on the horse despite a wide margin victory; combined the two one could deduce - rightly or wrongly - his seniority and experienced could have played a part. And, I also think the 'Rule' applied in that manner needs tweaking if it was for an educational purpose. And, maybe the stewards had similar thought to yours truly to give him a 2-day holiday.

Nevertheless, that was less painful to him than he punters at the receiving end of the number of injudicious rides he gave to some hotpots at Ascot over the last couple of years without a smidgeon of an enquiry - they were woeful, and replicated. Absolutely shocking!
Report john92 August 24, 2019 3:04 PM BST
Sorry Pablo... I've been busy seething about all those sh1t presents I've been given over the years. I'll post it on Monday.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! September 28, 2019 2:52 PM BST
Fav for the Middle Park

Wink
Report stewarts rise September 28, 2019 2:54 PM BST
Frankie said he beat nothing this AM!Shocked
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