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acey deucy
13 Apr 19 23:01
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Good Luck to the guy I thought he was on his way out  but Mohaather looks like it will throw him a Life Line.

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By:
GEORGE.B
When: 13 Apr 19 23:10
will the horse be any good on quicker going?
By:
acey deucy
When: 13 Apr 19 23:12
Who Knows George?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 13 Apr 19 23:15
It was probably on the quick side when scrambled home at Nottingham acey, so suppose the question should be

Is he going to prove as good on a quicker surface?

Cuz the eyecatching run at Newbury on debut and the two wins there, ground deffo on the easy side
By:
portmanpark
When: 14 Apr 19 08:32
I thought Marcus announced his retirement during last season maybe this horse changed his mind.Seems a gent so I hope this horse does well for him.
By:
blackbarn
When: 14 Apr 19 09:14
Just for info, Sheikh Hamdan sent Tregoning 5 2 year olds for last season (including Mohaather). He has nine this season. In his interview he said he likes Showcasings (Mohaather's sire). He has three two year olds by him for this season; nicest on pedigree looks to be the one out of Group class Must Be Me.  Not sure if it is named yet.

Burrows has 30 Hamdan 2yo's!! Last season he had 36 and didn't get a single turf winner out of them (2 AW's I think)
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 17 Jun 25 18:57
Did a very good with Mohaather (and then Hamdan died) seems to be back in the cold and his own site has no 2 year olds from Shadwell listed.

1 winner from 30 runners in 2025


https://marcustregoningracing.co.uk/horses-in-training/two-year-olds/
By:
ponchoslament
When: 17 Jun 25 19:22
Didn’t he chuck out a guineas winner, for 20k ? Cant remember
Horses name, also, didn’t the Dixon brothers nick a group winner cheaply ??
By:
Mr Myxlplyx
When: 18 Jun 25 18:49
It was the 2006 Derby winner Sir Percy which I seem to recall, from an interview on the telly, he said he let go for £28,000 because his wife wanted a new kitchen. He wryly described it as the most expensive kitchen in history !

Fair play to the Pakenhams who were the lucky recipients of the largesse as they were patrons of Marcus T for a good while thereafter.
By:
barstool
When: 18 Jun 25 19:26
Think you will find the Horse was Makfi, sold to France unraced, won following years (2010) 2000gns.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 18 Jun 25 19:30
I believe he was referring to Makfi, who Tregoning decided to send to the sales unraced
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 18 Jun 25 19:32
Barstool Hat Tip got there before me

Makfi also became a sire of a  French 2000 Guineas winner Make Believe
By:
barstool
When: 18 Jun 25 19:40
No worries, both on the same wave length.
By:
ponchoslament
When: 18 Jun 25 19:52
Makfli, that was it
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 24 Jul 25 15:58
1 winner 39 Runners in 2025

How do this business model work?

Hamdan really did check out at the wrong time for Marcus. he had Mohaather winning Sussex Stakes and the revival was on.
By:
richgit
When: 24 Jul 25 16:05
.Cardinal..Marcus has various strings to his bow...brings yearlings "on" for his patrons etc.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 24 Jul 25 16:08
Good info rich
By:
acey deucy
When: 24 Jul 25 16:17
Needs a good Season real bad....When was his last half decent Winner ffs.
By:
richgit
When: 24 Jul 25 16:19
...Acey....don't worry about Marcus...part of the Shadwell machinery.
By:
acey deucy
When: 24 Jul 25 16:28
I know the rent is Sky High down at Whitsbury.Plain
By:
Uberalles
When: 24 Jul 25 17:29
Marcus has had issues an owner told me. They had a horse break down on pretty firm ground so decided not to run a load of horses until it changes. One out today as ground came right
By:
Uberalles
When: 24 Jul 25 17:29
Was fancied a bit Tap Dancer
By:
blackbarn
When: 24 Jul 25 20:53
Just to repeat what I said on another thread. It was not Marcus' decision to let Makfi go.  Hth.    Uberalles correct re ground - he has several still waiting for cut in the ground.  I have a tiny slice of one.
By:
blackbarn
When: 24 Jul 25 21:07
richgit24 Jul 25 16:19Joined: 13 Feb 02 | Topic/replies: 870 | Blogger: richgit's blog
...Acey....don't worry about Marcus...part of the Shadwell machinery.

Er.  Not now! I think Moonjid is the last.  There were two others, one filly gone to the paddocks, the other one sold. He may have an unraced 3yo but I think not. I think thats it.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 24 Jul 25 23:30
No he has 2 2yo according to his very own site

https://marcustregoningracing.co.uk/horses-in-training/two-year-olds/

BTW when I looked a few months ago they were not listed.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 24 Jul 25 23:31
Make that 3
By:
richgit
When: 25 Jul 25 06:23
..Good morning friends....in truth, it's a long while since I was at his place...so long that he was still in Lambourn in those days.
I do seem to recall part of the set up was to bring in fresh Yearlings for Shadwell, and then move them on, when ready, to the likes of John Dunlop, and Michael Stoute etc.
Maybe I'm wrong, and the sands of time have dulled my memory !

By the way, a comical tale, ...many years ago, I was quite involved at Clarehaven Stables, where Alec Stewart trained several Shadwell horses....I would visit a couple of times each month, and otherwise would Phone Alec every Saturday morning about 11 am for his thoughts on any of his runners.....on one occassion I was on the phone to him when he said .." Sorry,I've got to go there's someone on the other line "....in my ignorance I said "well I was here first Alec , so tell them to bugger off!"........he said " I can't David, it's Sheihk Hamdan !"..........it was me that buggered off...lol
By:
richgit
When: 25 Jul 25 07:37
.....I won't start a new thread, but I noticed in the 14.37 race at Uttoxeter, that the favourite has been raised 24 pounds in one go by the handicapper after it's last race.(probably justified).

Is this the highest rise in one go ,do you reckon ?
By:
acey deucy
When: 25 Jul 25 07:53
richgit25 Jul 25 06:23Joined: 13 Feb 02 | Topic/replies: 872 | Blogger: richgit's blog
..Good morning friends....in truth, it's a long while since I was at his place...so long that he was still in Lambourn in those days.
I do seem to recall part of the set up was to bring in fresh Yearlings for Shadwell, and then move them on, when ready, to the likes of John Dunlop, and Michael Stoute etc.
Maybe I'm wrong, and the sands of time have dulled my memory !....Yes you are wrong rich that never hapened.Plain
By:
richgit
When: 25 Jul 25 08:08
..LOL....not for the first time !
By:
richgit
When: 25 Jul 25 08:18
..Acey....did you work at Kingsdown Stables then ?...just interested that's all.
By:
acey deucy
When: 25 Jul 25 11:39
I worked wih Marcus for a few Years when he was Assistant Trainer for Dick Hern rich.Plain
By:
richgit
When: 25 Jul 25 14:00
OK Acey...sweet memories of good horses I'm guessing?..............I was just convinced, ( wrongly it seems), that when my partner and I had a couple of breeding mares, ( covered by Efisio at Highclere stud), that the newish foals were sent up to Kingsdown Stables  to be nurtured before they went on to Newmarket.
Isn't it terrible what time, and alchohol,  can do to a brain   Cool.........nice chatting anyway..GL
By:
acey deucy
When: 25 Jul 25 16:13
ok rich did you ever Breed anything good?
By:
richgit
When: 25 Jul 25 16:43
...Me and my missus did,.. but the mares weren't great shakes....it was only " sonething to try out" really for my friend and myself.

I think the best one won it's first two races ( Southwell and York ), was second in it's next at Brighton ( jockey stupidity)....then it's bloody wind blew up, and we could never fix the problem...he then went to a riding school in Yorkshire somewhere...we only actually had the two live foals suitable to go into training...I think the other ended up winning a selling hurdle race at Towcester...and we accepted a bid......and that was the end of that folly...

Mr Magnier was never too concerned about us...Love
By:
acey deucy
When: 25 Jul 25 16:50
Dam'n them Jockeys.LaughLaugh
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