why is liquidity so low?
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Good evening Sniper.
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Was about to say the exact same Keefter. There's some markets I've seen recently where it looks like utter desperation to get matched at any price possible because liquidity is so poor. (and I can be guilty of that myself).
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Wasn't just the 28k at 1.01 though, it is pretty much 4 figures matched near every price up to 1.2
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Would be interesting to know form those who say liquidity is poor, how much are they usually trying to get matched?
And is that i/r? |
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Hola mousey
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i didnt bet in the race but liquidity looked awful most of the race with 3 figure sums either side of the line a rarity, obviously when things hot up late the boxes etc get busy but thats no good to the vast majority watching the pictures at home behind the twitchers/drones(?)/boxes/facetimers
you watch other sports popular sports and its completely different throughout |
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Only Money
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jamesdean 29 Mar 19 16:23
I predict the same people moaning about it this year will be on here next year, still moaning. We've had the same type thread every year for the last decade if not more That's not to say liquidity isn't low or that a boost wouldn't be much welcomed, just saying there's still plenty to be had Spot on, jamesdean. See you all again on the same thread next year. |
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On the flip side, liquidity on the IPL looks like it's still very high. And I'm sure you can no longer bet direct from India any more.
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Doesn't the women's cricket have good liquid as well? I think ZODIE and the butch found an edge in that stuff.
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Regardless, that is about lack of volume. In a good market anyone can have a bet at the displaying price.
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You are right Wesdag. There's many approaches to betting on here, so we'll all judge liquidity differently, and for the same reason you can't judge whether it's a change in liquidity or something else.
I do believe that the overall amounts (which isn't the same as real liquidity) for Cheltenham was down on last year. |
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2 or 3k matched on most plaice markets (standard term ones) IR, used to be 20k+
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Tons of futility in nostalgia, mousey..
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I don't grumble. Not like them remoaners or whatever they call themselves.
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The point is, whatever the true price is, the difference between that and what you are shown is determined by the take out merchants
Institutional is the word. Quite how it happens when regulators make merry out of stopping kids play pitch and toss is anyones guess |
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mousey, good to hear. These constant Brexit debates has bored me to tears. Whenever I see anything about it I immediately move away from it.
dusty, how much are the take out merchants taking? |
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ProSniper
"Used to be a slight difference between back & lay but now gap is enormous" That isn't anything to moan about..if you're consistently on the right end of it. Ironically, most of the moaners are filthy arbers, fast pic thieves, owners of beasts that ain't trying a leg until their money is down etc.. Not moaning about it (because I don't play I/R now), just putting it forward as one of the reasons why liquidity has become so poor |
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Dont know Prosniper
What I know for absolute is that money from people who think they have a chance is the lifeblood of the exchange If they stand by and do nothing then the thing died on their watch |
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Premium Charge
Racetech camera angles Racing TV showing delayed Irish racing Digital TV signal replacing faster analogue Technology improving so more sharks on course |
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Slow the pics on all screen on course to that of off course
It simple dont allow bungs to have paid for privilige everything derives from that |
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the PC itself came as a reult of the market, which was always made of people gaining advantage
If the insider trading was stopped on course then all things become equilibrium off course and more people win and lose naturally, so premium charge become irrelevant |
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'Slow the pics on all screen on course to that of off course'
cringe. |
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all pics come from the same point and are delayed as a result of the infrastructure they are processed through.
All on course pics should be slowed....just as some have tried to slow the main screen that jockeys use during racing. If its good enough to slow for the jockeys its good enough to slow for those trading in the boxes |
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its been like this for 17yrs ydc.
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What has the amount of time something has been under regulated got to do with anything?
Are you saying all pics on course are the same speed? |
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warp factor 8.
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I remember when they did the investigation around 2011, the incompetent Review said something to the effect of because hospitality boxes aren’t sold as trading rooms then they are ok.
So because demand outstrips supply, meaning courses don’t have to advertise at all the things that occur in those boxes does that make the actions in them permissable? The pictures are vehicles for gambling, selling access to privileges is no less wrong than allowing access to trade on share prices before anyone else on the LSE. |
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what about people who que all night in freezing temps to get 1st in the que for the boxing day sale? do you thinks its unfair?
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The comparable would be to be allowed in during closed hours
It’s not being at the front of the queue, it’s seeing the result before those down the line. How come passing information is not allowed....but betting on the result before all other is? |
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Better to go through the front window in a f**king JCB imo.
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dont see the result before anyone,there is no result until the jockeys have weighed in.
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Superficial argument, on the law of averages all you’d need to see is the first past the post before anyone else who’s in the position to bet on it in order to profit.
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From the Tim Brennan encounter the bha said
"which might be used to gain an unfair advantage in the betting market intending to make a gain for himself or another and/or to cause loss to another". The unfair advantage IR is purchased in plain sight, 100s of thousands every race. Why is that not also gaining an unfair advantage? |
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A vet giving information about what ‘might happen’ as a result of factors
IR bets on actual winners |
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*or for the pedantic first past the post
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anyone can go courtside at a tennis match...99.9% wont becos they are layseekhuunts.
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