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By:
Gordon63
When: 09 Feb 26 14:13
20 years ago there were rarely races with
By:
Gordon63
When: 09 Feb 26 14:17
well that was a cliffhanger!! what I intended to say was

what percentage would the resident experts on here attribute to the following to the off the cliff decline in race liquidity?

a) financial checks
b) commission
c) sports betting instead of horse racing
d) ever more efficient BOTs scaring off clients
e) Other - please specify

All respondents will be entered into a draw!
By:
Brian
When: 09 Feb 26 14:52
a c d
By:
Busyfool
When: 09 Feb 26 15:00
d e a d
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 09 Feb 26 15:04
CHEATING
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 09 Feb 26 15:38
I will place a bet and the money dissappears and it moves in half/full point, it's like a cheat code to entice me to take a lower price (and the opposite if laying). This is in markets where there appears to be clear liquidity close to the off.
By:
top2rated
When: 09 Feb 26 15:55
In confirmation of Gordon63's comment earlier, "All respondents will be entered into a draw!"....

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By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Feb 26 16:02
There is absolutely no doubt that BF Seed their Horse Racing Markets pre off and I/R. Whether that is cheating is open to debate and despite JML's statement earlier I have never said that it is.
I/R Horse Racing has been in a steady decline for years now and a combination of many factors has not helped.
Top of the list is the hideous Gambling Commission who have been allowed to dictate how punters spend their own money willingly helped by the Bookmakers
By:
JML
When: 09 Feb 26 17:05
More rubbish from the industry expert.

Zero evidence as per usual.

Trying to distance yourself from all the accusations you've made
over the past 10 months about Betfair cheating the I/R.

I could easily say that Betfair only allowed you back on to the forum because
they knew you would kill it.

But I wouldn't because I only say things that can be backed up with evidence.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 09 Feb 26 17:09
JML 09 Feb 26 17:05 
over the past 10 months about Betfair cheating the I/R.

so its all above board?
By:
JML
When: 09 Feb 26 17:13
Until you or someone else prove otherwise.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 09 Feb 26 17:14
impossible to prove ennithink..but,on the balance of probabilty its 99.85%.
By:
JML
When: 09 Feb 26 17:24
Can you provide proof for that?

Just the usual nonsense from you.

You had a reputation for being a grass so perhaps you could explain
how they manage to keep the software people from spilling the beans.
By:
levelbreak
When: 09 Feb 26 17:29
If they are seeding the pre race and i/r markets, why do they not close the accounts of the consistent winners as other exchanges do?
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Feb 26 17:29
JML is a pedant,simple as that,
If he thinks that BF Horse Racing Markets are not Seeded he needs Sectioning.
Can he prove otherwise
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Feb 26 17:32
Are the £1 pounds in the boxes when they have just jumped off from punters,you total cretin,JML?
By:
JML
When: 09 Feb 26 17:34
A 7 year old in a 75 year old body.

Don't worry--you'll have someone to talk to in a while when the carer comes to change your nappies.
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Feb 26 17:34
"You had a reputation for being a grass so perhaps you could explain".

From what source,Pricko
By:
formoftheace
When: 09 Feb 26 17:38
JML 09 Feb 26 17:34 
A 7 year old in a 75 year old body.

Don't worry--you'll have someone to talk to in a while when the carer comes to change your nappies

Laugh
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Feb 26 17:40
And,Scrub Buddy Boy has the temerity of my making childish insults.
The ironyLaugh
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 09 Feb 26 17:44
Majority of times theres 3 figures at a price and it's been there for a while JML and I press to back, suddenly it's gone and moves in half/whole point. This is obviously not normal and happens too often for it to be an anomaly.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 09 Feb 26 17:45
99% of the time when i click to lay inside last 2f all the money in the pink vanishes instantly..strange when the bet takes 1 sec to submit..
99% of the time when i click with an overide i get backs and lays most done at my overide
99% of the time if i click to lay £5 @1000 last 2f when its 50 in the 1st box i get 20 bets of 3p-10p and £4.38 done at 1000

whats the average of 3 x 99%?
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Feb 26 17:47
The Head Honcho from Bet Angel explained that it is "click bait" which is removed when you try to take it,Angela.
Anybody who has bet I/R on Snooker will confirm it
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Feb 26 17:52
Support from the "Two Bobber" Aceform is conclusive proof of being a cretin
By:
JML
When: 09 Feb 26 17:58
99% of the time when i click to lay inside last 2f all the money in the pink vanishes instantly..strange when the bet takes 1 sec to submit..

99% of the time if i click to lay £5 @1000 last 2f when its 50 in the 1st box i get 20 bets of 3p-10p and £4.38 done at 1000

Both can't be true

You need to take some time off Rico.

You keep spouting the same rubbish over and over again  all you've managed to do is to brainwash yourself.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 09 Feb 26 18:01
Both can't be true 😆
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Feb 26 18:03
The Snooker is even more clear,Rico.
A price will sit there until you try to take it and without a shot being made it vanishes just before the 5 Second delay expires.
BTW,I am referring to when I have a Feed  from the Dish.
Still,Scrub Buddy Boy knows bestLaugh
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 09 Feb 26 18:03
Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds
Backer's stake
Payout
Liability
Highland Harvey
630
£0.08
£50.32
Highland Harvey
640
£0.02
£12.78
Highland Harvey
790
£0.02
£15.78
Highland Harvey
940
£0.19
£178.41
Highland Harvey
1,000
£4.69
£4,685.31

jussed coincidence JML?
By:
JML
When: 09 Feb 26 18:05
99% of the time when i click to lay inside last 2f all the money in the pink vanishes instantly..strange when the bet takes 1 sec to submit..

So ALL the money didn't vanish then.
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Feb 26 18:06
Of course it is RicoLaugh
Only the pedant is entitled to an opinion
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 09 Feb 26 18:10

Feb 9, 2026 -- 5:47PM, uptheirons wrote:


The Head Honcho from Bet Angel explained that it is "click bait" which is removed when you try to take it,Angela.Anybody who has bet I/R on Snooker will confirm it


Yeah. Very sad times. And the price tumbling is trying to get people willing to take a point less. Dodgy

By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Feb 26 18:10
He can guess posters age and their health status as well
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Feb 26 18:26
Angela,we are dealing with PP whose delaying tactics on the phone whilst trying to get a bet on the dogs was legendary.
Why would they change?
By:
hulk23
When: 09 Feb 26 19:53
You were all warned. Consistently.

Porter knew, the rest of you refused to listen.

Still fkng refuse.  Mad.
By:
hulk23
When: 09 Feb 26 19:59
Paudys the biggest player on here. 

He can do anything he likes, he can see every bet, and it won't be to your advantage.

Nobody's checking him, nobody ever has, nobody ever will.
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 09 Feb 26 20:06

Feb 9, 2026 -- 7:53PM, hulk23 wrote:


You were all warned. Consistently. Porter knew, the rest of you refused to listen.Still fkng refuse.

By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 09 Feb 26 20:17
JML 09 Feb 26 18:05 
99% of the time when i click to lay inside last 2f all the money in the pink vanishes instantly..strange when the bet takes 1 sec to submit..

So ALL the money didn't vanish then.

yes it vanished ewe fckn tatey...then paddis bot has 1 second to evaluate my request and think..oh,heres porter,that knts won over 3.3 million from us..he's offering 1000..give him a few pence ev price then the rest at the max.
By:
JML
When: 09 Feb 26 20:24
Why the bad temper?Not many yellow stickers to be had at Asda?
By:
JML
When: 09 Feb 26 20:25
Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds
Backer's stake
Payout
Liability
Highland Harvey
630
£0.08
£50.32
Highland Harvey
640
£0.02
£12.78
Highland Harvey
790
£0.02
£15.78
Highland Harvey
940
£0.19
£178.41
Highland Harvey
1,000
£4.69
£4,685.31


How can you match what's up there and it all vanished?
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 09 Feb 26 20:51
ive jussed explained ffs...

So ALL the money didn't vanish then.

yes it vanished ewe fckn tatey...then paddis bot has 1 second to evaluate my request and think..oh,heres porter,that knts won over 3.3 million from us..he's offering 1000..give him a few pence ev price then the rest at the max.
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