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john42
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Ive been betting for 40 years,some good days,quite a few bad days,trading for around 16 years with similar results.
Around 6 weeks ago I actually found a way of making a regular daily profit,nothing to do with matched betting or bonuses or whatever,just an error i spotted with a large bookies,its no fortune but i probably made around £500 in 6 weeks and around £130 in the last 4 days,with very little downside or risk to what I was doing.
Anyway after making a £50 profit on 1 trade this morning I received a message saying I had been restricted,yes i knew it was probably coming at some point,but how can people say they make a living or thousands when in fact I cant even make a small profit without getting restricted.
I have tried other sites but this particular bookie seems to be the only one that does what I need to make that sort of profit on a daily basis.
Is there anything I can do to get round this,I feel pretty deflated.
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Report rooster booster February 5, 2019 2:54 PM GMT
I tried it the other day striding...They said unlucky burkey has already told us that one
Report mouse muldoon February 5, 2019 2:55 PM GMT
£25 free bet for a chicken/road crossing type joke.
£50 free bet for a paddy joke.
Report stridingedge February 5, 2019 2:56 PM GMT
Laugh
Report dave1357 February 5, 2019 2:57 PM GMT
as you can't use your system any more, you can tell us all what it is.

tyia
Report hulk23 February 5, 2019 2:58 PM GMT
tried sending them pictures of your junk ?  got to be worth a shot ...
Report john42 February 5, 2019 3:07 PM GMT
i know striding,i thought i might get a couple of months before they stopped me,its just really pathetic.
Dave1357,you know i actually feel like doing that,but at the moment im going to try and find out to what degree im restricted,and also have another look at some other bookies,i did try most of the bigger ones but they didnt have what this company did,saying that even then i would still end up being restricted by them,not sure if there any way i can adapt what im doing to betfair,i can but try.
There always the option of trying to sell it,but i dont think id get many takers,they would only make a few hundred before they got stopped anyway.
Report hulk23 February 5, 2019 3:10 PM GMT
if it was an error, and they've restricted you for taking advantage of it.  is there not a chance they may also look to correct the error ?
Report tanglefoot February 5, 2019 3:15 PM GMT
At a guess must be Koral
Report john42 February 5, 2019 3:18 PM GMT
you would think it was something they would do,i suppose its just easier to restrict me.
If i dont get any joy i am literally going to go on everywhere I can and tell people how its done,dont know how much people will get away with but it would be nice to piss them off,its not like i was taking them for thousands.
I actually cant believe the error that they are making,its actually quite bad,if it is a human error the person needs to be sacked.
Report hulk23 February 5, 2019 3:19 PM GMT
if it's genuinely an error he's probably within his rights to ask for his money back.  check the small print ...
Report john42 February 5, 2019 3:20 PM GMT
no tanglefoot not them.
so does anyone actually make decent money with these bookies or is it just ball ****,surely you wont get away with multiple accounts because of address/card detail etc.
Report stridingedge February 5, 2019 3:20 PM GMT
Keep posting on the LFC fred John, you are entitled to your view as much as the next man.There's some on there that won't take any word of criticism I've had a taste of it myself, fook em.
Report john42 February 5, 2019 3:35 PM GMT
thanks striding,I love liverpool ive supported them for over 40 years,some amazing days,when i was younger i hated other teams especially man u,but as ive got older ive realised if we play crap we deserve to get beat.
As i said in the thread,just dont think we have been that great this year despite being top,I look at us play sometimes and we just seem to play a similar style to a lot of other teams.Hopefully we can pick things up a bit.
It seems ive been restricted to £2 or £3 bets so i can kiss goodbye to £30+ a day,really not sure where to go from here now,im going to get knowhere with this bookies,and will end up the same way with the others i guess,really dissapointed.
Report john42 February 5, 2019 3:42 PM GMT
ok so i tried to put £2 bet on a 6.0 selection and said i could only get a £1 on..ridiculous.so ive withdrawn all my money out.
Report holmesdale1 February 5, 2019 4:10 PM GMT
Feel free to let me know this error so I can take advantage.
Report prepared83 February 5, 2019 4:15 PM GMT
at least tell us which bookie john?
Report john42 February 5, 2019 4:30 PM GMT
i just checked my p/l  last month +£650 im on live chat with them now
Report john42 February 5, 2019 4:42 PM GMT
is it likely that you can get unrestricted for example if i went on there for a few weeks and lost?
Report john42 February 5, 2019 4:52 PM GMT
i cant do that holmesdale1 until i know i have no other options,if i decide i want to screw them up i will,as for selling it,probably knowone would believe me,secondly if someone bought it they would prob only make about £600 before getting restricted.
the thing it is something you need to spend time with as well,im lucky i do night work so spend most of the day on and off the pc.For a lot of people they may not think its worth it.
Report brassneck February 5, 2019 5:08 PM GMT
you could always change your name by deed poll and then you can prove that you are not the guy that they restricted.Wink
Report brassneck February 5, 2019 5:20 PM GMT
and then if they restrict you a second time you could apply a junction on your civil liberties ,which would get you about 6 grand a month for say a year of compo resulting in a clear profit of £72,000 at least.+ expensesLaugh
Report brassneck February 5, 2019 5:30 PM GMT
in this case an IN junctionWinkWink
Report ItsMeSwaddle February 5, 2019 5:43 PM GMT
By any chance is the company in question SKYBET?
Report dukeofpuke February 5, 2019 5:56 PM GMT
https://smartbettingclub.com/blog/the-inside-story-on-how-one-bookmaker-rest...
Report dukeofpuke February 5, 2019 5:57 PM GMT
https://smartbettingclub.com/blog/the-inside-story-on-how-one-bookmaker-rest...
Report dukeofpuke February 5, 2019 5:58 PM GMT
restricts-the-stakes-of-its-customers/
Report holmesdale1 February 5, 2019 6:07 PM GMT
Thanks for the reply john42, like you I do a fair bit of night work with plenty of down time.
Good luck.
Report DenzilPenberthy February 5, 2019 6:11 PM GMT
Interesting read duke cheers.
Report john42 February 5, 2019 6:26 PM GMT
itsmeswaddle no its not skybet
Report john42 February 5, 2019 6:40 PM GMT
interesting read duke thank you.
I dont follow ant tipsters or have any special info or anything like that at all,ive been betting and trading for many years,done ok but nothing special,had an idea that ive tried on and off for a few years,without any great success,however went with an online bookies a month or so ago,and found a way that worked,it was ok and made a little bit of profit,and then realised a way of making a better profit,I looked at other bookies but they just dont seem to offer the same thing,or at least not as good!! I found i could esaily make £10 a day,not amazing but i was happy with £300 a month extra,i realised upping my stake a bit was even better,the last week or so ive had days profit of £102,£90,£40,£41 and made £48 this morning in half hour and thats when I got the message to say I was restricted.
Its just so gutting that after all these years they wont let me make a profit.
Report dambuster February 5, 2019 6:48 PM GMT
John EVERYONE HAS TO LOSE, They can't have 60,000 losing punters and 4 winners, the 4 winners will be restricted.
Report tomhunt February 5, 2019 6:58 PM GMT
Its just so gutting that after all these years they wont let me make a profit. Laugh
Report posy February 5, 2019 7:03 PM GMT
duke  thanks for posting that article;the depth of the analysis is much more than I expected.

john  is your system based on 'match betting' ?
Report hulk23 February 5, 2019 7:24 PM GMT
nothing to do with matched betting or bonuses or whatever,just an error
Report Dr Crippen February 5, 2019 7:30 PM GMT
What's this, the weekly ''I've been restricted by an evil bookies thread?''

Let's face it, we shouldn't be surprised on a betting exchange.
Report hulk23 February 5, 2019 7:34 PM GMT
it's grade A mugs only online, has been for years.  show any semblance of nous and the profiling will single you out in a handful of bets ...
Report Dr Crippen February 5, 2019 7:55 PM GMT
Everybody is told that hulk23, but there's still a constant stream of punters coming on here claiming they've been restricted.

If they're so smart, then why bother with the bookies in the first place? 

Doesn't make any sense.

The posters who start these threads usually have very few posts to their names as well.
Report john42 February 5, 2019 8:13 PM GMT
posy,no nothing to do with match betting,just something i came across,whether its a human error i douby more like an automated error,if everyone was aware of it its easy money until they stop you,whats your problem Tomhunt,i doubt you would say that in front of me,you carry on losing mate if it makes you happy.
Report john42 February 5, 2019 8:14 PM GMT
dr crippen go away fool,if you were so smart you would know what the error is,there always one or two pricks who think they know it all.
Report mouse muldoon February 5, 2019 8:16 PM GMT
No good asking the doc to go away, he'll return over and over again to roll around in his own soil.
Report john42 February 5, 2019 8:16 PM GMT
oh and tomhunt and crippen ive blocked you ****g twats cant be bothered replying to idiots like you
Report 11kv February 5, 2019 8:17 PM GMT
He's a real Doctor.
Report mouse muldoon February 5, 2019 8:18 PM GMT
I know he is.
Report john42 February 5, 2019 8:18 PM GMT
i have better things to do than come on here and make things up.
Report 11kv February 5, 2019 8:19 PM GMT
john42 could you have a word with Mart please.
Report DenzilPenberthy February 5, 2019 8:19 PM GMT
Laugh
Report john42 February 5, 2019 8:21 PM GMT
Hi John,

Following a review of your account by our Trading team, we regret to inform you that we are no longer able to offer you our telephone betting service and whilst our online service remains available to you, betting restrictions will be applied on any future bets placed.

Should you wish to continue to use our services, you will no longer be eligible for the following Sports offers and promotions: Best Odds Guaranteed, ITV Racing 4/1, Feature Race 4/1, Official Price Guarantee, 365 International Fixed Win - best price between the price taken and our last price, Bore Draw Money Back, Early Payout Offers, Extra Time Extra Chance and any Accumulator, Multi Bet or Parlay bonus.

This does not affect any bets you have already placed in accordance with these offers. Where placing a risk free bet in conjunction with ITV Racing 4/1 Offer or Feature Race 4/1 Offer, if you are unable to stake the value of your risk free bet, you should use the Bet Max option and we will credit the difference between the maximum risk free bet returns and your actual returns to ensure that you receive the full value in accordance with your original qualifying bet and the offer terms.

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Kind regards,
The bet365 Team

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Report DenzilPenberthy February 5, 2019 8:29 PM GMT
john42 were you the fella on Bullseye years ago? Genuine question.
Report posy February 5, 2019 8:30 PM GMT
Crazy that 365 should  restrict you for making £10 a day. Whatever you were doing must have upset them big time.
Report Dr Crippen February 5, 2019 8:50 PM GMT
''john 42'' and little ''Mouse spotty virgin Muldoon.''

Two thick planks caught on the same thread.

Job done.
Report pleasedontgetinjuredclanroyal February 5, 2019 8:51 PM GMT
i got restricted by bet 3.65 a few years ago. I wrote directly to their lady owner by registered email telling her I had been a stoke

city fan since the second world war and that her traders were lily livered cowards with the intelligence of a retarded chimpanzee.

the next day the restrictions had been lifted and I was awarded a five hundred pound free bet.
Report mouse muldoon February 5, 2019 8:52 PM GMT

Feb 5, 2019 -- 8:50PM, Dr Crippen wrote:


''john 42'' and little ''Mouse spotty virgin Muldoon.''Two thick planks caught on the same thread.Job done.


John started the thread you twit.

Report Dr Crippen February 5, 2019 8:56 PM GMT
I know who started the thread you little grub muldoon.
Report mouse muldoon February 5, 2019 8:58 PM GMT
If he started the thread then in what sense did he get caught on the thread?
Report Dr Crippen February 5, 2019 9:02 PM GMT
Still can't see it eh, just how thick are you Muldoon?

Even by horseracing thread standards you're a dunce.
Report mouse muldoon February 5, 2019 9:03 PM GMT
You're making no sense at all now.
Report john42 February 5, 2019 9:29 PM GMT
posy it started £10 a day until i realised i could make a lot more i was only doing £2 and £5 bets,when i realised waht a good thing it was i upped my stakes to £10 to £20 anyway maybe i should have made it less obvious,but either way it seems you genuinely cant make a decent amount of money,as i said earlier i dont understand about the guys who are supposedly professionals.
anyway thanks for the contributions,there are some decent guys on here but quite a few twats as well so im going to leave it that,and try to figure if theres a way of doing this with another bookie.
Report john42 February 5, 2019 9:30 PM GMT
oh and crippen you really are a sad little ****.
Report mouse muldoon February 5, 2019 9:32 PM GMT

Feb 5, 2019 -- 8:16PM, mouse muldoon wrote:


No good asking the doc to go away, he'll return over and over again to roll around in his own soil.


QED

Report tomhunt February 6, 2019 1:48 PM GMT
poor john....no money, no edge, no hope
Report leif February 6, 2019 4:44 PM GMT
john42

....
anyway thanks for the contributions,there are some decent guys on here but quite a few twats as well so im going to leave it that,and try to figure if theres a way of doing this with another bookie.
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If this was an error being made by Bet365, and you upped your stakes before getting curtailed, and as you quote 'you can try if there's a way of doing this with another bookie'

then:

1. Why did you not try it before to mix it up somewhat?

2. What are the chances of more than one bookie making the same error?
Report prepared83 February 6, 2019 5:01 PM GMT
each way extra or feature race john?
Report hulk23 February 6, 2019 6:00 PM GMT
those are just features that anyone can abuse, johns is apparently a 'mistake'
Report john42 February 6, 2019 6:25 PM GMT
i have just checked a few other sites,the error is actually on other bookie sites as well,which to be honest im very shocked about,ive been checking without betting last 2 days.
Unfortunately bet365 offer something in particular which is somewhat different to other bookies and thats what i was taking advantage of,thats where i was making the bigger money from,sorry to be so cryptic but i dont want to give too much away as im working on doing something along similar lines with other bookies.
I wont be able to make £50 a day but ill certainly be able to make a smaller profit.
If i didnt think i could make the money with other bookies id love to just come on here and tell everyone just to stick it up them,would love to see hundreds going on there taking £700 off them in a month.
Report posy February 6, 2019 6:29 PM GMT
Well i'm intrigued ;don't suppose you could drop a cryptic clue....
Report john42 February 6, 2019 6:49 PM GMT
thats a tricky one posy,obviously while i can still win money at it i dont want to give too much away,i suppose i can say it does involve cash out.
Report s.kenbo February 6, 2019 6:51 PM GMT
I doubt it is a bookies error or mistake. You've possibly found a way to make a few quid out of one of their concessions though. Most likely an arb of some kind.

Haven't you got a wife, kids or grandkids who want a b365 account?
Report ProSniper February 6, 2019 6:54 PM GMT
ah, the old cash out cistern Laugh
Report ProSniper February 6, 2019 6:56 PM GMT
quite incredible that they wouldn't let you carry on mugging them off, Johnny boy. After all, we all know they're nothing but a charity disguised as rotten, greedy pigs..
Report 11kv February 6, 2019 6:59 PM GMT
Anyone tried to purchase the scam from you yet john42 ?
Report john42 February 6, 2019 7:00 PM GMT
s.kenbo nothing to do with any concessions.im sure they would check the address of wife and kids etc.
Report john42 February 6, 2019 7:01 PM GMT
not a case of that prosniper,fact is your allowed to lose but not allowed to win.
Report ProSniper February 6, 2019 7:04 PM GMT
That's my point johnny. Unless you're incredibly naive and new to the game, how can you believe they'll allow you to take, take, take from them, without them putting a stop to it????????? It just doesn't make sense.
Report john42 February 6, 2019 7:05 PM GMT
11kv firstly its not a scam,just because you dont know what it is dosent mean it dosent exist,im not claiming to make thousands off it,i was happy to make the amount i did every day because i work nights and the extra was nice,i was still putting in a lot of hours on the pc.Also im not going to sell it when i can make some sort of money from it,as i said earlier if i thought i couldnt win i would tell everyone i could how to do it just to piss b365 off.
Report hulk23 February 6, 2019 7:05 PM GMT
your allowed to lose but not allowed to win.

actually, I think you'll find martin's been winning at paddy's for years now.  and he's perfectly ok with it ..
Report john42 February 6, 2019 7:12 PM GMT
yeh fair enough prosniper i do agree,and yeh i knew that would cotton on n the end,i just hoped it would be a bit longer,i mean is £700 in a month so massive? how do all the so called pros get away with it or is it all just bs. maybe i should have slowed it down a bit and I would have got longer,but i just saw an opportunity.
Report ProSniper February 6, 2019 7:33 PM GMT
It wouldn;t have mattered what pace you went at. Your account might have lasted a little longer, but you'd only have made the same money over that longer period. Their policy is crystal clear: Ban/restrict anyone who takes adv of their soft odds. Roll out the red carpet for the mugs losing money to them hand over fist.
Report john42 February 6, 2019 7:36 PM GMT
agree prosniper thats why i just thought get in there and get what i could.
Report 11kv February 6, 2019 7:42 PM GMT
Sorry your system Mischief
Report 11kv February 6, 2019 7:42 PM GMT
Just wondered if there where any offers..
Report equine flew February 6, 2019 7:45 PM GMT
At the end of the day, its arbing John, and no bookmaker will accept that. There view is why should they they lay you at a price bigger than they can lay someone on here.   It doesn't make sense and it loses them money.

BTW,  I know what you are doing, so will PM you.
Report john42 February 6, 2019 7:51 PM GMT
firstly 11kv i wouldnt call it a system,and no i havent had any offers,but im not selling it anyway.

secondly ok equine flew will be interesting to hear from you.
Report ProSniper February 6, 2019 7:51 PM GMT
We can call it "unfair" or whatever, but it's just another BUSINESS that's looking to maximize profits.

Imagine if yourself ran a nightclub, and your clientele consisted mainly of smokin hot French pole dancers.. but every now and then, fat, smelly, pervy men would turn up and ruin the ambience. Would you allow this to continue? Or have them turned away at the door?
Report mouse muldoon February 6, 2019 7:53 PM GMT
Shirley the dancers are your staff?
Report john42 February 6, 2019 7:57 PM GMT
but if they dont let anyone win,and people are aware of that,they wont have any customers and the business wont exist.
Report hulk23 February 6, 2019 8:00 PM GMT
they generally don't include that on the adverts - please gamble responsibly, oh and if you win you can go fk yourself ..
Report mouse muldoon February 6, 2019 8:00 PM GMT
Snipey, would your business model not be that you employ the french dancers while the likes of pervy Dr C enter and purchase drinks for all while enjoying the dancer's company?
Report ProSniper February 6, 2019 8:09 PM GMT
"Shirley the dancers are your staff?" There's never enough pretty girls dancing, mousey Grin Dancers employed + dancers invited Excited

"would your business model not be that you employ the french dancers while the likes of pervy Dr C enter and purchase drinks for all while enjoying the dancer's company?" Laugh Certainly not. My main priority would be to protect my dancing babes. Any men let in would be heavily screened Cool
Report ProSniper February 6, 2019 8:09 PM GMT
I'd employ U&Shafty as my bouncers Laugh
Report mouse muldoon February 6, 2019 8:14 PM GMT
These smokin' hot frenchies, they don't put there hands in there own pockets you know.
Report ProSniper February 6, 2019 8:29 PM GMT
Highrollers biggy and domi given VIP membership in return for sponsoring them..

Report leif February 7, 2019 12:38 PM GMT
Don't know much about 'arbing' but this is the likely approach in question?

One company tempts you to sign up with them to get notifications of 'free bets'. They encourage you to bet a selection with the bookfaker and then lay it to lose on Betfair. The only flaw being the number of accounts you can open isn't infinite. There was a time when you could open up accounts easily but now they want your DNA or you're closed down before you start.
Report ProSniper February 7, 2019 3:10 PM GMT
"now they want your DNA" Laugh
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 7, 2024 3:13 PM GMT
Houdini used to be quite good.
Report mitolo February 7, 2024 3:16 PM GMT
shore was. tragic end
Report big aitch February 7, 2024 9:04 PM GMT
whatever happened to prosniper ?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 7, 2024 9:24 PM GMT
rifle backfired
Report Hayden February 7, 2024 9:37 PM GMT
Got the bullet from Betfair.
Report layingisthewayforward February 7, 2024 10:53 PM GMT
Can't be arsed to read the thread. Did we find out what John was doing to make a profit and get banned ?
Report freddiewilliams February 8, 2024 2:06 PM GMT
Hope he's not still feeling deflated
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