table--unofficial

joint 1st---Hollyday & uptheboro===27 points

3rd joint--Cosmok & TNM============24

5th joint--Posy & Kimbo============21

7th PAT============================19
8th Shane==========================17
9th George=========================16
10th QQking========================14


I think !

Cheers Roy

Well done to hollyday and uptheboro who tie for first place. It was close for all places with cosmik debris and TheNorfolkMafia sharing the spoils for 3rd / 4th.

Well done also to the rest of the top 10.

The leaderboard will be updated shortly.

Position	Competitor	Score
1	hollyday	27
1	uptheboro	27
3	cosmik debris	24
3	TheNorfolkMafia	24
5	s.kenbo	21
5	posy	21
7	Pat	19
8	Shanelee1966	17
9	George.B	16
10	ThatFoxInTheBox	14
10	qqking	14
12	angeleyz	13
13	Virgin	12
13	hapless amatuer	12
15	Smar Tarse	11
15	Billposter	11
17	PAT'S PLAYTHING	10
18	Reynard	8
19	mackies fc	7
20	lux	5
21	Black Emperor	4
22	lockup	3
23	pumphol	2
23	dukeofpuke	2
25	buffythebookieslayer	0

Well done hollyday and utb and thanks Roy and George.

Up to mackies. posy

personally, I favour the 15 minute rule, cuz if you allow up to the off, you then have people posting after they've jumped for the first, and we're in a similar situation. So a line has to be drawn somewhere.


The other good point about the 15 min rule is that no potential advantage can be gained from seeing the likely off odds eg 10/11 or 11/10, 6/1 or 7/1

hollyday 

Cheers George

Makes no difference today but rules is rules so make an example of them and ban them for a couple of days (imo)

Take your point George (and it's quite compelling) about the first race odds.

Suggest everybody is now on a yellow card and it's applied...unless Mackies decrees otherwise.

well done hollyday and utb

ty george

On the 15 minute rule..

My understanding was it was implemented to allow anyone scoring in-running time to input selections into a spreadsheet.

When I've scored I've not done in running scores nor used a spreadsheet for that matter. As a result I've always allowed some leniency. Pumphol has been playing longer than me and in that time I'm barely aware of any late posts so I'm more than happy to let today pass.

Should anyone be continually posting late then obviously we would have to address that. And obviously anything after the off would never be allowed.

Hope everybody feels this is fair. I don't feel this is the sort of comp where a hard line stance is required.

What you mean posy is another rule to allow a broken rule to be allowed if it meets the criteria of the new rule

This makes no sense to me .... someone will be upset either way ...that's what rules are for

Virgin I think i'm suggesting an objective rule to replace what would become a subjective interpretation of the existing rule.

It certainly did for Brexit!

mackies you may have misunderstood me as i've not for one minute suggested that pumphol sought to gain any advantage. He doesn't need to !!

There was a case a couple of weeks ago where qq posted late (again i'm not suggesting anything underhand) and that led to a bit of a debate as to whether or not the 15 minute rule should be strictly enforced and at that point George reminded everyone of its existance. I think you may have been out of the country at the time and missed the conversation.

Since then there have been a further few late received posts and the question was asked as to whether or not the rule should be abandoned and that's where we now are with George having made the valid point that scrapping the rule could lead to an advantage to very late posters.

I reiterate i'm not suggesting anyone has abused the rule;it's just a case of if there is a rule it needs to be adhered to.

What .... like a vote

As long as we all know exactly what we're voting for . We can't have people claiming afterwards that those who voted in a certain way "Were not aware of all the facts at the time of voting" . We must also ensure that both campaigns strictly adhere to their expenditure restrictions and that all financial support is completely transparent , in order to ensure a level playing field .

Virgin you're a sparky sort of guy so why don't you organise the vote.In my view there are 3 options :

Leave the 15 minute rule as it is ,but strictly enforce it by voiding all selections

Leave the 15 minute rule as it is ,but void the first race only

Delete the 15 minute rule

All entrants showing on George's latest league table eligible to vote

In case my view does not get carried--can it be best of 3--or 5  maybe 7

bloody'ell
If I posted after 3rd 4th race I'm  still not guaranteed points
so 15mins won't change my finish .
I'll vote out or maybe in, we will see

Week 11 & that was the first time I have not beaten the deadline, I actually only posted cos three others had posted after the alloted time, I wouldn't have bothered otherwise  knowing I was well late, I have an even simpler solution, if you post 14 min to 1 min before off time, you can still participate but your first race selection will be deemed a loser & if that's a nap it goes on race two.

Sorry Posy I never saw that,good idea