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sewter lives again
03 Feb 19 10:16
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Pandoro Star finished in front of 2 of the market leaders (Arriba de toda and Sylviacliffs) on first try on fibresand. PS was also hampered when in a decent early position and might have finished closer to the first 3 in that race. Drop to 7 furlongs shouldnt be a problem. Now 4 pounds better off with that pair as well.

Could have been slightly better drawn today but stall 3 isn't that bad-and the other 2 have drawn stalls 1 and 2.

PS is 14/1 and the other 2 are around the 7/2 mark. Imo the danger looks to be Kodi Star

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By:
stu
When: 03 Feb 19 10:40
Not a bad price, but wants a mile rather than 7f?
By:
sewter lives again
When: 03 Feb 19 10:42
maybe stu but it's probably going to ride slow today
By:
betme
When: 03 Feb 19 10:42
good post but i think dolly dupree could go well. i will put yours mine and russion rum in a combo exata.
good luck.
By:
pumphol.
When: 03 Feb 19 10:48
Dolly Dupree was beaten 3 lengths by Sylviacliffs here last time, DD  has a 10lb pull & is more than twice the price & looks the value play imo.
By:
stu
When: 03 Feb 19 10:51
Looks like a 'lay the shorties' kind of view on here then! Plenty value bigger priced.
By:
muse
When: 03 Feb 19 10:59
I think you might be on to something in that the latest form of Arriba de Toda and Sylviacliffs might have been overrated by the market.

But my conclusion is a bit different.  I am not sure the form in the race you refer to on 29th December is all that strong either.

I prefer the winner of a different race that day - Champagne Mondays.  They clearly think it will stay 7f, and with Kodi Dream unproven on fibresand, I think Champagne Mondays looks the most solid in what looks a fairly poor race.  At 7/1 I think he is worth a small bet.

Good luck with your selections.
By:
Davros
When: 03 Feb 19 11:36
sewter - the market leaders left that race behind in their subsequent run, whereas Pandoro Star went on to confirm its previous useless form in its next race.  So, why back it - just because one of its terrible performances coincided with poor performances for two of the others in this race?

Dolly Dupree can't seem to get into a challenging position no matter what the distance. 

Champagne Mondays - on all known evidence would need a taxi to get this trip.

Kodi Dream - decent performance last time and a slight class drop this time - although will it handle the surface?  Its optimal racing style doesn't match the track.

Arriba De Toda - sub-optimal running style for this course, but possibility this is improving with racing.

Sylvia Cliffs - as Arriba but how do you split them?

Russian Rum FTO in a handicap, FTO on the surface, FTO after being gelded and FTO for a new trainer - no form but his sire does well on the AW and soft ground - both of which this horse hasn't had yet.

Miss Wow FTO in a handicap, FTO on the surface and FTO for a new trainer - absolutely shocking form but his sire has a really good record on slow standard going (although from a very small sample). 

If someone held a knife to my throat I'd take a foolish punt on Russian Rum as sometimes it's better the devil you don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me if it came last.  But I can't see why anyone would see anything attractive to bet on in this race.

Good luck!
By:
Davros
When: 03 Feb 19 11:46
correction - Russian Rum is with the same trainer
By:
stu
When: 03 Feb 19 11:58
Quite fancy backing Pandoro Star (the OPs pick) each way at these prices, very decent value.

Could well outrun the price and a win for a place is nice.
By:
stu
When: 03 Feb 19 11:59
*Pandora Star
By:
stu
When: 03 Feb 19 12:36
Some cracking value in the EW market on here right now for PS
By:
Deptford
When: 03 Feb 19 12:42
14/1 from 7/1, mm
By:
Buzzards
When: 03 Feb 19 12:55
Great write up Davros.
By:
Deptford
When: 03 Feb 19 12:56
18s now
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 03 Feb 19 12:57
Champagne Mondays in a taxi for me 9.4 and 2.66, 80/20 bet, good luck.
By:
sewter lives again
When: 03 Feb 19 13:00
oh dear big drifter
By:
muse
When: 03 Feb 19 13:02
WD pumphol.
By:
11kv
When: 03 Feb 19 13:02
Great call Pumphol
By:
Deptford
When: 03 Feb 19 13:02
Ran well
By:
chavman
When: 03 Feb 19 13:03
wd pumpy,nice call
By:
Poppydog.
When: 03 Feb 19 13:04
Winner went wide throughout race. Must have given away quite a few lengths
By:
stu
When: 03 Feb 19 13:05
Great picking the winner and ul OP too, great EW though.
By:
sewter lives again
When: 03 Feb 19 13:05
a good run but think PS would have won if drawn higher Sylviacliffs has run a good race from trap 1
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 03 Feb 19 13:05
Well done pumphol and sewter
By:
Davros
When: 03 Feb 19 13:06
wd pumphol

wd - sewter - showed good pace today.
By:
11kv
When: 03 Feb 19 13:06
Great camera work to boot

nice place for Sewter lives again...
By:
pumphol.
When: 03 Feb 19 13:06
Betme Cool

Ta guys Cool
By:
chavman
When: 03 Feb 19 13:07
unlucky op (20-1)Cry
By:
stewarts rise
When: 03 Feb 19 13:07
Well done OP, certainly found the value as per thread title, well done Pumphol nice easy winner.
By:
sparrow
When: 03 Feb 19 13:07
Well done, pumphol.
By:
sewter lives again
When: 03 Feb 19 13:08
Davros your write up was incorrect that was PS first run since the race I highlighted
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 03 Feb 19 13:08
Sorry betme, managed to miss your post, VWD
By:
lux
When: 03 Feb 19 13:08
EX:£187.50
SF:£151.39

Great calls the both of you!
By:
stu
When: 03 Feb 19 13:08
Some really good analysis on this thread, wd all.
By:
sewter lives again
When: 03 Feb 19 13:08
betme hope you did the exacta
By:
stu
When: 03 Feb 19 13:09
Still wondering why such a massive drift on the second there before the race.
By:
pumphol.
When: 03 Feb 19 13:09
Nice pick Sewter
By:
pumphol.
When: 03 Feb 19 13:12
More importantly its nice to see a range of views on different races however poor they are on paper, not enough of it on here, this was a regular occurrence years back.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 03 Feb 19 13:12
Yes well done betme, nice F/C.
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