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Willie Shafter.
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Report mouse muldoon January 31, 2019 7:29 PM GMT
12" waffle, double nutella pour moi
Report GEORGE.B January 31, 2019 7:30 PM GMT
Good luck BB


are you having a fried egg with that, mouse?
Report Keefter January 31, 2019 7:31 PM GMT
1.40 in handicap. I'd rather be a layer, but it's a pick something at a price to place sort of race, so the pin lands on Twiggy
Report england_v_south_afri January 31, 2019 7:31 PM GMT
Think it might get beat. Only a small lay mind.
Report mouse muldoon January 31, 2019 7:32 PM GMT
Pickled, George.
Report shoodacoodadidnt January 31, 2019 7:33 PM GMT
Will win
Report mouse muldoon January 31, 2019 7:35 PM GMT
wd winners
Report england_v_south_afri January 31, 2019 7:35 PM GMT
Oh well wd winners
Report elise January 31, 2019 7:35 PM GMT
lucky
Report ribero1 January 31, 2019 7:35 PM GMT
Lynch is calling it heroic,think he's after an Oscar.
Report stewarts rise January 31, 2019 7:37 PM GMT
Did it well enough, hat trick tmr!
Report shoodacoodadidnt January 31, 2019 7:37 PM GMT
Surprised we never got any better price in running - there must have been massive confidence in that
Report Keefter January 31, 2019 7:38 PM GMT
45 rated beast odds on... sums up AW racing really.
Report penzance January 31, 2019 7:38 PM GMT
sh1t home
Report Barton Bank January 31, 2019 7:39 PM GMT
Never looked like getting beat, so was hardly going to drift in running. Good position from the off.
Report GEORGE.B January 31, 2019 7:39 PM GMT
well done BB, winners and keefter on the place
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2019 7:41 PM GMT
amazed only went 1.5..2nd deffo going best over 1 out.
Report Keefter January 31, 2019 7:46 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2019 -- 1:39PM, GEORGE.B wrote:


well done BB, winners and keefter on the place


I think i got a bit lucky there tbh

Report handtorofe January 31, 2019 7:46 PM GMT
A masterclass in getting a horse well handicapped
Report Keefter January 31, 2019 7:49 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2019 -- 1:46PM, handtorofe wrote:


A masterclass in getting a horse well handicapped


by not trying? I'm uncomfortable with that tbh. Same reason I dislike Prescott

Report penzance January 31, 2019 7:50 PM GMT
thought it came from Ireland?
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2019 7:50 PM GMT
barton,will it run tomorrow?
Report Barton Bank January 31, 2019 7:53 PM GMT
The horse has had 2 runs for us since coming from Ireland and won both of them. So anyone thinking we've got it handicapped is barking up the wrong tree.
WS, don't know yet. If he comes out of the race fine and eats up OK then probably.
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2019 7:54 PM GMT
ok gl if so.
Report Barton Bank January 31, 2019 7:57 PM GMT
Ta.
Report the dealer January 31, 2019 7:57 PM GMT
aye well done and best of luck where ever it runs next
Report Barton Bank January 31, 2019 7:58 PM GMT
Cheers, will be soon whether or not it is tomorrow.
Report handtorofe January 31, 2019 8:19 PM GMT
Did they only buy it on the 18th Jan Barton
Report Barton Bank January 31, 2019 8:25 PM GMT
We bought him at the Goffs sale in Ireland in November 2018.
Report madhatters January 31, 2019 8:27 PM GMT
I always wondered on the RP notifications date & how accurate it was
Report handtorofe January 31, 2019 8:50 PM GMT
That was a cheap buy
Report Barton Bank January 31, 2019 8:55 PM GMT
We got a bargain but you wouldn't expect to pay much more than 4k for a 45 rated maiden aged almost 5.
Report smirnoff2therescue January 31, 2019 9:06 PM GMT
Excuse my ignorance if im wrong BB but is the club that is also involved  with the orange/brown colours as well i.e likes of Big Country et al ??
Report handtorofe January 31, 2019 9:06 PM GMT
Should of been around the 60 mark the irish handicapper was very generous dropping it that much
Report Barton Bank January 31, 2019 9:21 PM GMT
The ownership is not identical, but there is a fair bit of overlap between the two syndicates.
Report Barton Bank January 31, 2019 9:24 PM GMT
In fairness to the Irish handicapper the horse ran in handicaps off 60, 58, 56 and 52 and didn't finish in the first 8. Entitled to be dropped but we thought the horse had shown previous ability and wasn't a lost cause.
Report FrankRA January 31, 2019 9:26 PM GMT
Great training performance by Tracey Collins to keep that out of the frame for 7 races.
Lady Harrington should look for another trainer imo.
Report smirnoff2therescue January 31, 2019 9:31 PM GMT
Reason i asked BB is that Dixon brothers get a lot of stick on here but was refreshing to listen to Martin recently on Friday night Racing TV equivalent  of Get In talking as a punter and giving an insight into "the other side of the fence" as it were
Report smirnoff2therescue January 31, 2019 9:32 PM GMT
G/L going forward
Report Barton Bank January 31, 2019 9:38 PM GMT
Cheers.
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2019 9:52 PM GMT
bb,how has the improvement came about?
Report Barton Bank January 31, 2019 9:59 PM GMT
Mick thought the horse wasn't very fit when he arrived and had a few minor niggles that needed a bit of time. Horse had more about him phyiscally than most horses of that rating and if you look at videos of his early runs he definitely showed up well enough in maidens to suggest he should have been better than a 45 horse. So the raw ability was already there. Sometimes it can be coaxed back, sometimes it can't. Why he fared so poorly in 2018 I wouldn't know.
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2019 10:42 PM GMT
some suggest it was deliberate to get its mark down,if that was the case then the previous trainer would have had a touch with it,so maybe it wasnt deliberate,ok gl with it in future.
Report Barton Bank January 31, 2019 11:30 PM GMT
It would be an odd move indeed to deliberately run a horse down the weights and then sell it fairly cheaply. So I would assume that wasn't the case.
Report mouse muldoon January 31, 2019 11:32 PM GMT
If you get it up into the 80s Dom's father in law might be interested.
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2019 11:35 PM GMT
no chance in winter,try meydan.
Report onlooker February 1, 2019 2:12 AM GMT
No chance of any Entry at Meydan  Happy

You have to be a MINIMUM of 90 - mostly 95 - to get a Handicap ENTRY there.
Report deadbrain59 February 1, 2019 6:37 AM GMT
thrown in
Report Willie Shafter. February 1, 2019 10:16 AM GMT
degrees*
Report stewarts rise February 15, 2019 2:20 PM GMT
Playing up your winnings willie? BB doesn't think it would have any trouble winning from 58.
I'll be looking for a big priced horse EW again, this was nearly 7/4 earlier for small money.
Report Barton Bank February 15, 2019 2:21 PM GMT
He's well capable of winning from 58. Would have prefered a higher draw but would be disappointed if he got beat.
Report stewarts rise February 15, 2019 2:28 PM GMT
Have to say i thought the draw may be a negative but they do seem to win from all over, if he's good enough shouldn't stop him, good luck BB.
Report Barton Bank February 15, 2019 2:31 PM GMT
Well, if he gets beat narrowly by something under the stand rail I will reserve the right to blame the draw, don't worry about that! Cheers.
Report De_man February 15, 2019 3:08 PM GMT
Best of luck BB
Report stewarts rise February 15, 2019 4:03 PM GMT
Found my EW against it, Black Hambleton, his 4th lto has worked out exceptionally well.
Report Raggetty February 15, 2019 4:07 PM GMT
big gob.says.yes
Report Rider February 15, 2019 4:31 PM GMT
horse does still look fairly treated, but up in class as well as the 13lb, assuming they dont change the tactics and make the running i'd be surprised if it didnt trade bigger IR than the current odds of 0.75/1
Report Barton Bank February 15, 2019 4:36 PM GMT
We won't go out of our way to make the running given it isn't the easiest course to do it. I'd be happy if there were a couple of established front runners to track though. If I was happy with the draw and pace set up I'd say he's a good thing. Just a bit wary of the possiblity of a messy race/being drawn in the wrong place so won't be piling on him.
Report stridingedge February 15, 2019 4:42 PM GMT
GL Barton
Report tanglefoot February 15, 2019 4:43 PM GMT
Only negative, price is short.
Report stridingedge February 15, 2019 4:44 PM GMT
Just hope Jamie Lynch doesn't rate it.

He's already just killed the chances of 2 of mick's others Laugh
Report tanglefoot February 15, 2019 4:45 PM GMT
6/4 instead of 4/6, would be nice.
Report stewarts rise February 15, 2019 4:47 PM GMT
You need to get up earlier Tanglefoot!
Report Rider February 15, 2019 4:48 PM GMT
just out of interest BB which way to you expect the market to go
Report tanglefoot February 15, 2019 4:49 PM GMT
Sleepyhead this side Grin
Report Barton Bank February 15, 2019 4:50 PM GMT
I wouldn't have thought he would go off much bigger than he is now but there would be plenty of people who follow class 6 AW races closer than I do.
Report Rider February 15, 2019 4:53 PM GMT
oh dear I've laid it! with a view to trading either before or during the race, i've priced it higher but insiders can soon scupper things
Report stridingedge February 15, 2019 5:09 PM GMT
Roaring Rory runs like it should have a shout at getting 7f these days a number of it's runs around it's last win were decent in the context of a poor looking class 6.

Not backing it tonight but could go well at a price Shocked
Report handtorofe February 15, 2019 5:09 PM GMT
Same as rider think it will trade bigger layed at 1.68
Report alun2005 February 15, 2019 5:10 PM GMT
GL Barton

The Lion is rapidly becoming a forum favourite
Report Barton Bank February 15, 2019 5:13 PM GMT
Cheers, all.
Report alun2005 February 15, 2019 5:17 PM GMT
BRAVO THE LION

Up a stone for that, right?
Report stridingedge February 15, 2019 5:17 PM GMT
WD Barton

pished up!
Report shoodacoodadidnt February 15, 2019 5:17 PM GMT
Tee hee - quite easy :)
Report tanglefoot February 15, 2019 5:17 PM GMT
Nice,BB
Report Barton Bank February 15, 2019 5:18 PM GMT
Hacked up. Didn't really expect him to make all but nothing good enough to give him a lead. Good job we have him entered up 3 times in the next week as the handicapper will take a swipe now.
Report Rider February 15, 2019 5:18 PM GMT
made all!
Report De_man February 15, 2019 5:18 PM GMT
Wd BB handy 70 bucks thank you sir easy as :) best of luck
Report alun2005 February 15, 2019 5:18 PM GMT
Reinvesting in the next at 1.16 ????
Report stu February 15, 2019 5:18 PM GMT
So much for the inplay drift idea then...
Report stewarts rise February 15, 2019 5:19 PM GMT
Well done BB, jockey switched him over quickly.
Report hulk23 February 15, 2019 5:19 PM GMT
what's he doing pushing it out to the line ... could've taken it easy from 3 out, race was over
Report alun2005 February 15, 2019 5:19 PM GMT
Make that 1.10
Report stridingedge February 15, 2019 5:19 PM GMT
got to be massive odds on with a 6lb pen
Report Barton Bank February 15, 2019 5:20 PM GMT
Probably run Newcastle again on Monday.
Report stridingedge February 15, 2019 5:21 PM GMT
Up in trip I see Barton next time.
Report Barton Bank February 15, 2019 5:23 PM GMT
Yeah, he shouldn't have any problem getting 1m. He's got two entries over the trip at Chelmsford next week as well.
Report handtorofe February 15, 2019 5:24 PM GMT
Did my money in cold blood are you sure its the same horse that was running in Ireland BartonLaughlooks like a 80 horse.
Report stridingedge February 15, 2019 5:25 PM GMT
Yes you couldn't see it being a problem at all.

All the best next week with him.
Report Willie Shafter. February 15, 2019 5:34 PM GMT
i like to punt night before..at 1am it was 2.35..thort whys it that price..got up this morn and was 1.8 Cry

still got a st in hand..wd bb.
Report Barton Bank February 15, 2019 5:36 PM GMT
He'd have won on Tuesday as well if it wasn't for a few horses having the flu!
Report Willie Shafter. February 15, 2019 5:38 PM GMT
without a doubt.
Report Raggetty February 17, 2019 10:27 PM GMT
#4.shirley
Report Willie Shafter. February 17, 2019 10:52 PM GMT
point and shoot again..simple.
Report Raggetty February 17, 2019 10:59 PM GMT
Morris!
Report Willie Shafter. February 17, 2019 11:00 PM GMT
rides plenty winners.
Report Raggetty February 17, 2019 11:04 PM GMT
more.losers!
Report Willie Shafter. February 17, 2019 11:07 PM GMT
so does ev jock riding.
Report Raggetty February 17, 2019 11:11 PM GMT
barton.bank?
Report Barton Bank February 17, 2019 11:59 PM GMT
Not sure I can add much beyond the obvious. He's clearly going to win if he is in the same form as he was on Friday and he came out of the race fine so he ought to go in again. Will be priced accordingly though.
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