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23 Jan 19 15:17
Date Joined: 27 Aug 11
| Topic/replies: 23 | Blogger: See-the-stars-too's blog
I am here just to rant because I am so annoyed.   I know it's not about racing - but they do take bets on racing.    I had a bet on Djokovic to beat Nishikori in the Australian Tennis Open last night( I know that the odds were prohibitive but I don't always bet at such short odds )   The bet was accepted.  He was winning 6-1 4-1 when Nishikori retired injured.   I looked in my account earlier to see my winnings - they were not there.   I contacted betstars support and the person there told me because NIshikori retired early my bet was a loser.   I told him that Djokovic won the match therefore I should get paid - he told me that he didn't win the match (how do you argue with that).   Anyway I am here not because of the money involved (it wasn't that significant) - I'm here to tell you to be careful placing bets with this lot.   I don't know of any bookmaker in the UK or Ireland that wouldn't have paid on this bet.   Has anyone else encountered this?  ps - rant over!!
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Report See-the-stars-too January 23, 2019 3:46 PM GMT
edit - they voided the bet (it wasn't a loser - but it should have been a winning bet)
Report themightymac January 23, 2019 4:27 PM GMT
I thought it would have been a winner too. Couldn`t understand how they could make it a loser but now Void as you make clear.

Personally I wouldn`t bet with these small bookies, but I`m afraid that you don`t have a leg to stand on, it`s in their Rules:

In the event of a match starting but not being completed bets will be void, unless after the start of the match a player is disqualified. In this case, the player/team progressing to the next round or being awarded the victory will be deemed the winner.
Report longbridge January 24, 2019 10:54 AM GMT
On here (both Exch and SB) you'd be paid out as at least one set had been completed, which seems reasonable.
Report sparrow January 24, 2019 11:11 AM GMT
Another obscure firm I've never heard of, where do they find these shysters?
Report Ayedo January 24, 2019 11:19 AM GMT
Took over skybet
Report sparrow January 24, 2019 11:32 AM GMT
Thank you, ayedo. As I never use them I'm a little out of touch with these bookmaker firms these days.
Report Magic__Daps January 24, 2019 11:35 AM GMT
Their rules back them up I'm afraid:

All bets will stand irrespective of a change of schedule (or day of match).

All wagers will be void in the event of a match starting but not being completed, except for bets where the outcome has already been determined. For example - a game is abandoned at 6-4, 5-1. In this instance, bets on the first set winner will be settled as a winner. The only exception to this rule is where a player is disqualified, after which the player or team progressing to the next round will be deemed the winner.
Report IanP January 24, 2019 11:50 AM GMT
Loads of bookies have the same rule - William Hill , **** to name 2 well known ones.
Report IanP January 24, 2019 11:51 AM GMT
Report IanP January 24, 2019 11:51 AM GMT
Report devilsadvocate January 24, 2019 12:04 PM GMT

Jan 24, 2019 -- 11:19AM, Ayedo wrote:

Took over skybet

Wikki has them down as owned by Lads/korals ?

Report salmon spray January 24, 2019 12:04 PM GMT
I can understand the OP's annoyance but weren't there some rather dodgy betting activities linked to retirements in tennis matches a few years ago ? If so presumably they are covering themselves. One does hope they are voiding bets on the "loser" as well though.
Report DIFERENT GRAVY 12 January 24, 2019 12:25 PM GMT
Tennis has always been the dodgiest sport mainly through injuries, it is usually in the smaller non- televised tournaments.
Report the dealer January 24, 2019 12:33 PM GMT
numerous cases of unusual betting patterns and player retirements in the past, is why the rule was brought in.
Report the dealer January 24, 2019 12:36 PM GMT
Nikolay Davydenko a more high profile case
Report the dealer January 24, 2019 12:37 PM GMT
It is not the first time this season that a Davydenko match has come under scrutiny. He is still under investigation by the ATP after a defeat in Poland in August which attracted suspicious betting patterns. Davydenko retired from the third set of his second-round match against Argentina's Martin Vassallo Arguello after citing a foot injury, and Betfair, an online bookmaker, took the unprecedented step of making void more than £3 million which had been wagered on the outcome.

from 2007
Report The Leopard January 24, 2019 12:47 PM GMT
Betstars is a subsidiary of The Stars Group :

Betstar is a different company

The company produces and offers online gaming products and services including poker, casino and sportsbook through its online gaming division, Stars Interactive. These online brands are PokerStars, PokerStars Casino, BetStars and Full Tilt Poker.[2]

The Stars Group is also the owner of the PokerStars Championship, PokerStars Festival and MEGASTACK live poker tournament brands, and brands live poker rooms including PokerStars Live at the Hippodrome Casino London, PokerStars Live at the City of Dreams in Macau and PokerStars Live at the City of Dreams in Manila.

Stars Interactive is headquartered in Onchan, Isle of Man where PokerStars has had an office since its early inception.

Betstar :
Report Ayedo January 24, 2019 1:38 PM GMT
The Stars Group Completes Acquisition of Sky Betting & Gaming
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