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27 Dec 18
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how many people would go if there were no bookmakers at the track they are providing a service. on greyhound tracks the bookmakers are paid to stand up between 750 and 1200 pound a week
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Same reason shops pay rates on the high street.
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if they weren't making enough money they wouldn't turn up
admittedly they do need some help, given how competative things are these days. I've placed probably 2 on course bets in the last decade, how times have changed |
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Back in the day, the government introduced a compulsory 10p /£ Off Course Betting Tax,and I for one went racing daily to avoid this penalty.
This would be the only way to boost on-course attendance/betting turnover, but is an unlikely option. |
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On course bookmaker days are probably numbered under the present conditions.
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Once of a day our bookmaking firm would never consider a day off wherever we had a pitch between March right through to October.And even the winter months would be out every Saturday.Last year I worked only 39 days racing and this year not even going to do that many.Its a sad reflection now with high expenses and low turnover sometimes I feel I'm only going for nostalgia.
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There aren't any bookmakers on French or American tracks are there?
It doesn't stop people going racing there. |
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French tracks are deserted other than arc day and French derby day can’t comment on that nonsense in America.
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Not sure if you can bet into the Pools off-course in US , so no option if you want a bet.
The tracks are mostly open even on non-race days to accommodate the Slot punters and betting into the other track pools, which accounts for the generous prize money. In France, they have shops where you can bet into the pari-mutuel so no need to attend, and they too have generous prize money. |
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Morning Foxy,while I understand beatherder's view we all know the market for good pitches has never been stronger,a pitch at Hamilton going for 126k and Market rasen 86k would have been unthinkable a few years ago.
There is only 1 solution which will never happen is to stop us hedging into the exchanges. I've taken very good money the last 2 days in admittedly good pitches,i guess I will have hedged over 4k back over the 2 days,that should be circulating in the ring but hey ho. |
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Why shouldn't they? Why do they pay so little?
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Good morning ribero I don’t understand why that suggestion isn’t given a chance nothing wrong with kempton over the two days .
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Starting prices how much do they pay
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dr.atkins, Belle Vue bookmakers pay the track to stand on a Saturday night. At the BAGS meetings there is no payment either way. Some greyhound tracks pay their bookmakers i believe for BAGS meetings, but to say greyhound bookmakers get paid between 750 & 1200 pounds a week simply isn't true in every case.
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Deep dale you have been on here long enough to know that occasionally people just post porkies
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foxy...not enough. I know they all pay the same which of course is stupid. Best places should pay more or all should pay a % of turnover.
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Not enough is a terrific answer
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people just post porkies
French tracks are deserted other than arc day and French derby day Is that one? |
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Lol dr fair question I know on arc trials day which is probably there 3rd biggest day longchamp is almost empty nearly as many from the UK as Paris,also the jumping at autiel is very poorly supported.perhaps the summer festival at deauville gets a decent crowd but most are there for the evening entertainment.
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deauville gets a decent crowd but most are there for the evening entertainment.
unlike the UK tracks in the Summer  |
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why should punters pay to view racing online or the television,, after all without punters the game is finished
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Doubled
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the question should be why are punters paying so much to go racing?....cheaper entrance = greater attendance = better turnover for bookmakers..(who just hedge back on here anyway) who will cover their costs in any event
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Black knight the average cost for a bookmaker to bet at kempton on Boxing Day will be north of £500 by just backing on here how do you think they cover those cost before getting anything for themselves
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I do agree punters pay to much to go racing
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On course bookmakers failed to move with the times, to offer anything different that might increase their trade. Any of them hand out any presents a la Barry Dennis and his Christmas puddings?
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foxy if the bookmakers cant recoup the cost then they wouldnt do it would they. ...unless they are prepared to take a view and not hedge......that said the costs are to high i do agree....the multiple is way too high....should it be a percentage of profit on the day...though not sure how to manage /police that
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your first point about the cost for punters black night has a huge effect on the bookmakers costs,£40 kempton tatts 6 races on boxing day and £15 haydock silver are two examples where the cost is simply to much,however whilst racecourses are getting money to easily nothing will change,regarding percentage from profit well that would be interesting to say the least.
good luck today |
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Black Knight, what would you think would be a fair % of profit for on course bookmakers to pay ?
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2%
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^^^ lol
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^^^ lol
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Any one wish to purchase a pitch at Jersey races ??
6 bookies only all independent and free to price up as they see fit. No betfair outlet [Jersey not covered] YET /// Meetings run from Easter Monday and finish August Bank holiday Monday. 5 races per meeting I hurdle 4 flat. Offers over ////???? |
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Ian...2% too small then!
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Racecourses currently get about 20%, I reckon.
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If that were the case on course bookies would not exist!
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Jersey racecourse is worth a visit if u r over there . There are actually 9 race meetings.
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Sorry there are actually 10. Super spot though.
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9 meetings in Jersey
1 in Guernsey.. |
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How much do you think the pitch will go for ?
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