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Cheltenham. Yes, pricey and crowded. But best atmosphere ever. Ludlow, Fakenham Hexham Aintree Worst... Chelmsford Bath Stratford Windsor Kelso Most improved...Newbury. Where they now welcome punters and have abandoned brown coated Gestapo Most at risk....Sandown. Where quality of racing deteriorates yearly, where investment is low, a racetrack thinking it can rest om its laurels. |
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never known anybody not like kelso call it a day.
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I remember Terry Allen one day standing among the punters in front of the bookmakers at Hereford and suddenly shouting, "Look out! Pickpockets!" and laughing as three or four blokes suddenly scarpered.
I don't know whether he'd actually spotted them dipping, or whether he'd recognized them and just wanted to flush them out. Either way, it worked. |
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Same to you and your good lady. You were missed at Great Yarmouth this year but pleased to hear you are venturing South in December if not in September.
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Worst,Goodwood 1992, Riston Lady geting beat a short head in nursery, cost me £27 grand, had doubles and treble with Philidor and Lochsong, still hurts now, best, two really, Cheltenham, Ballyandy winning the bumper, had treble with Un Temps and Diego Charmil, got the photo finish print in my front room, betting than looking at Babestation, Royal Ascot,Queen Mary,Rizeena, still cant believe the price, could not see her getting beat, that was my biggest single win and dont think it will ever be bettered
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Best - Ebor meetings back in early 80s - Sharpo, sluicing through the mud, Protection Racket getting me out of a hole in the ebor
Glint of Gold hacking up at an unbelievable 2/1 against when it should have been 2s on. Great days. Ayr gold cup when it was a Friday was also special they've runined it now packing it into a card full of more unrealistic handicaps on a Saturday. Been to a couple of Chelt festivals and least said about finding winners the better however did see Dawn Run and Dessie winning their gold cups the latter was most emotional ive seen a racecourse grown men crying. Beverley during a couple of summer holidays was also very enjoyable. Worst Scottish Grand National day at Ayr - jesus wept my wife organised a weekend away for my 50th and her and my daughters went along toothey basically spent the whole day in total shock (we/they are not prudes or sheltered) - I drink but jeez this lot took it to several different levels and it was embarrassing to say the least, it still gets brought up to this day. Left before the bumper and I was winning ![]() |
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Oldgit,where were you when this happened? Plenty of betting shops that will take a bet on English Racing but refuse "local".Betfair have or had offices going out of Pafos.
Back then though no such thing,perhaps ryanwee or ilwab will remember Makaritos who posted on the RP forum.He owned a filly he raced at Lefkosia and was once advised to "take her to the coast for a few months". He did and she and he were ok,a while later though a "ringer" ran and won. Was found in a pathetic shallow grave next to a road,buried quickly using a JCB.On the course is only "Tote" betting,the real market is among the bar owners as "agents".Non Cypriot horses are now allowed to compete but to date the betting is the same. If the UK had become a "Tote only" betting market it would not only destroy the industry,the related crime rate would be ungovernable.Those that think bookies are crooks would perhaps change their minds,view them as accountants and treat them accordingly and they won't go wrong!!! |
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glentoby:
I'm not sure of the year but around 1996. We were staying in Larnaca and that was the only 'Betting Shop' I saw. I broke two ribs almost as soon as I arrived so it was about ten days before we traveled anywhere else. |
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Changed a lot oldgit,I was on the "Promenade/Boulevard in Larnaca not too long after you were there.Looks like Southern France.I was looking for the Black Cat Pub,the guy I spoke to pointed to the Bank Of Cyprus behind and said that is it.My first visit was bombed out aircraft and coming through Larnaca the locals with carts drawn by donkeys.
I know many there now and you are not wrong regarding the racing. I hope you and your have a happy and peaceful holiday period and I will add should you ever return in future let me know and I will make sure you are looked after properly.I do despise the Jockey Club for accepting the flag on the mountain but I am neither Greek or Cypriot and that is political. |
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glentoby:
We had previously twice been to Paphos and liked it and once to Kyrenia in the North an ill judged place to travel to for a New Year celebration :-) Apart from Turkish troops on every corner and shelled buildings in Famagusta and other places, power cuts every night we stayed in a hotel full of miserable Germans. They sat glumly through the gala dinner and departed moments after midnight without as much as Happy New year. They hardly spoke to each other far less to us. It was a problem getting to Kyrenia. We were travelling on Boxing day and I got a phone call just as I was leaving work on Christmas eve telling me that our flight had been switched from Heathrow to Gatwick. That actually suited us but when we got there we found that the airline had been unable to contact most of the passengers. They had to round them up at Heathrow and bus them over and we were five hours late in departing and not getting to our hotel until after 3 am. Changed rooms twice due to problems with the plumbing. Unfortunately our travelling adventures are over now so I can't take up your kind offer. |
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Such a shame oldgit and you made me ponder about the passage of time.I have had a wonderful couple of days with the youngsters enjoying the family etc,nothing usurps the family here.They know though my passion for horseracing and that it goes far beyond betting.
Here as in Cyprus the races are invariably "fixed",same as trotting in Malta and not likely to change any time soon and that is why the UK stands head and shoulders above the rest despite my view of the BHA. Should you ever manage you are more than welcome,failing that I would be more than happy to get you to your nearest course and have a day out with you at no cost to you. |
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I noticed when we were in Malta that they seemed to train their Trotters on the roads.
It’s not age that has caused my problems but the effects of antibiotics I was prescribed for prostate and urinary infections. Refuse Cipro or Fluoroquinolones if they are ever suggested to you as they can cause a vast range of problems. Many are like a time bomb and happen long after the initial course of drugs and can be triggered by other drugs. After much pressure from sufferers of Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Syndrome the EMA (European Medicines Agency) held an open conference in London in June attended by affected patients from all over Europe. As a result some versions of the drugs will no longer be prescribed and others restricted in use to more serious infections where no other drug will help. In January all British doctors will be getting a letter with the EMA findings and patient information leaflets are being updated by the MHRA (The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency regulates medicines, medical devices and blood components for transfusion in the UK ) In my case each time I was prescribed the drugs I stopped them within a few day as I developed tendonitis. Each time it eventually cleared up but in May 2015 another medication evidently triggered what mystified doctors said was a form of neuropathy or even CMT (Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease ) One Monday I was out for over five hours at a horse show, on the Friday out and about at the races for seven hours. Nine days later I was having difficulty in walking unaided. This is the link to the EMA conference if anyone wants to watch it. It lasts for over four hours but can be watched in parts on winter days when racing is off. You don’t just need to be prescribed the drugs as they are used on animals and in fish farms so are in the food chain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vao8o5NGUc&t=4399s |
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Bangor is a strange set up, no stands, facilities fairly basic.
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When I was in my late teens early twenties, backing three winners at Fontwell and running along the centre of the course going mad when one of them won. My memory has gone a bit but seem to remember someting about the Duke of Albuquerque being there? The course had so much atmosphere back in those days, so many characters, but my favourite race track as such was Pompey Dogs, I loved an eveing out there & still miss it now
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Royal Ascot, queues so bad for toilets that able bodied people were having to use the disabled toilets and disabled people were literally in the queue behind streams of able bodied but desperate folks. Restuarants with vacant tables but being refused entry because I was in a suit and not top hat and tails despite entrance to all these restaurants being in my vicinity. It was particularly bad for female race goers that day but the male toilets were awash with piss and vomit. To cap it all and I had left by then, a major brawl broke out towards the end of racing in the bar area.
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One of my best moments racing was being in Australia, I lived in Lane Cove, North Sydney and got a lovely cushy sales job with a car so I was sorted for the year,1993. Dermot Weld sent Vintage Crop down under for the Melbourne Cup. Lots of my work colleagues were punters and I spent the previous 2 weeks before the day of the race telling all who would listen to me that Vintage Crop was a good thing, a seriously top class horse running against the Aussie handicappers and he won sweetly enough and paid for my rent for a couple of months, happy days.
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Fontwell , york , chrltenham , galway, windsor Worst Brighton, linfield, newmarket, yarmouth Had a two day stag at goodwood, absolutely plastered woke in hilton avisford park, message in lipstick on mirror, see yer later, went next day , strange ugly woman behind bar kept serving me free drinks, waited for a private moment asked why the free beer ? she slapped my face . |
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Been to flemington. a couple of times for the cup
too Overcrowded for me worse than g c day at cheltenham Liked ascot near perth, nice and easy to get about, easy beer and food In the states philadelphia park , welcoming and roomy Tampa small but mobility ok lovely restaurent Ireland you have to do ballinrobe and rosscommon Tiny footprint racecourses Kids betting on a one euro tote, full of farmers and dodgy bookies Punchestown like a concrete housing estate Clonmel great viewing some clever feckers about there ! |
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Santa Anita on the day that Raven's Pass won the classic is one I will always remember. My son was based at UCLA at the time and got us tickets plus an outside picnic table and racing went on from around 11.30 onwards. Cloudless sky, warm temperature, great views of eh mountains, loads of European winners and made enough dollars for 4 of us to have an hour at an Irish Pub in Pasadena followed by a very good steak meal nearby. Sadly the Americans tore up the track surface after that meeting which exposed how reliant they are on dirt.
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