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Rubys last 4 rides ..FFFF
Rubys last 4 rides ..FFFF
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Agree,gave the horse no chance even allowing for 2nd last, chronic ride.
What was the idiot doing who ran onto track? |
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Nice run of 11 loser for Ruby. All 11 favs or 2nd favs.
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as long as he remains on the payroll of a major bookmaker these rides will be - and should be - called into question ...
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Horse never put in the race.....simple reason Walsh had no intention of winning!
ATR quick to say he needs further.....ummmm he won at this trip last time! |
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I give up!
Having posted stats that prove that Ruby falls of more than any other jockey several times over the years, his acolytes still ask were's the proof! |
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Last 5 years all races
RW 31 per cent wins - 30 per cent ytd RJ 20 per cent Proves if proof were needed that his horses are in contention at last more than most so more tired and under more pressure. He's bound to have more fallers then. |
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I thought Mullins stated Footpad was going great guns at home eg his work was very good. I think Walsh ought to have accepted the fate on Footpad, and not subject the horse to more punishment after making another mistake down the back straight. Look at the injury he caused Killultagh Vic after the horse slid on his belly after jumping the last - Walsh got him going again vigorously to win, and as a result the horse missed over a year due to an over-reach and pulled muscle.
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tbh any horse would need further with a ride like that
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Last 5 years all races
RW 31 per cent wins - 30 per cent ytd RJ 20 per cent Proves if proof were needed that his horses are in contention at last more than most so more tired and under more pressure. He's bound to have more fallers then. Hilarious stuff. Should be Donald Trump's fact finder. |
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Loper if you want to read something hilarious have a look again at your 13.27 post on the other thread!
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Well....its good to see the vast majority on here agree that Rubys days are numbered, and that he does in fact fall far more more regularly then other jockey riding today. Everyones welcome to their opinion, but the Ruby Walsh apologists are in denial and their comments are completely pompous and must be ego driven as they are so hopelessly wrong. There are none so blind as those who wont see, channel vision, rose tinted spectacles, or pure stupidity, who knows.
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Big up basil absolutely true and great post. Obviously Walsh has a good strike rate riding for Mullins but how good would it be if the kernt didn't fall at the last so many times he's lost his bottle end of. Think we should start backing him with fallen insurance lmfao what a tawat. And to the ruby Bj guys what's your excuses for the absolutely disgraceful effort on quick grabim in the 1.05 today at naval explain that away cos it looked FERKING bent IMVHO
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ok mart
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sewter lives again 10 Nov 18 22:08
ima you have to admit though that other sports dont result in some of the pretty bad injuries that RW has had Yeah but what I was more meaning is that if jockey X is say 40 years old, no longer has a top job and so wasn't getting the quality rides like before and so that is reflected in the number of winners, then that often automatically gets put down to age and being incapable of what they could do in their 20s and 30s, despite there might be other jockeys still riding better than ever in their mid-40s and approaching 50, except they have a decent stable jockey job and are still getting the good rides. shlotter 11 Nov 18 04:39 ......One thing I think Mr Walsh should consider is getting his eyes tested. I have a feeling his vision is not 20/20... Prescription goggles maybe?  loper 11 Nov 18 13:22 I give up! Having posted stats that prove that Ruby falls of more than any other jockey several times over the years, his acolytes still ask were's the proof! Nobody is saying Ruby doesn't fall but I've seen stats where yes he was in the #1 position for it on 7.4% of rides ending with a fall but the the next on the list was Tom O'Brien with 7.3%, yet who from the two of them do you think rides more horses that are staying in contention for longer in their races and maybe in a head to head with another rival or rivals in the latter stages, where jumping at racing speed and tiredness of horses becomes a factor? Within the same set of statistics Tom O'Brien was top for unseated on 5% with Ruby in 7th with 2.6% with the top 20 going down to 1.4%. Sometimes it's just a perception due to falls or unseatings by higher profile horses ridden by higher profile jockeys getting noticed more, whereas with someone like Tom O'Brien it slips under the radar. Sam Thomas lost a high profile job that effectively ended his riding career because he had a spell of quite close together tumbles on big name horses on weekend races, yet overall his figures apparently were 3.5% for falls (so less than half of Ruby's) and 2.9% for unseated. |
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Ruby Walsh falls off twice as often as McCoy and Johnson.
Can you explain why, having ridden in 1000s more races than Ruby and ridden twice as many winners and competed in races with on average far bigger fields than he does,why the facts dont add up? |
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It is possible that his centre of gravity is further forward than some jockeys which causes a tired horse to knuckle over on landing as a lot of his falls do.
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Francome said in an interview that Ruby changes his hands slightly at the last minute going into the last fence thereby distracting the horse (I think that was the gist of it).
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There is no talent that can take his place at the moment
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He hasn't lost his 'bottle' in my opinion; i could name you jockeys who have and you would soon see the difference. He's just not as good as he was, that could be from an accumulation of reasons, none of which we know for sure. Age, of course catches up with everyone
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Sorry Gordon was at Navan only home and saw this, backed Apple Jade 11/10 and Us and Them 5/1 only downside was Felix . Not sure about this fellow I know this for a fact Elliot thinks the world of him, but on today's showing I'll be giving him a miss. Ruby will be back stronger than ever and all this is only fuel for him to show them he's still King...
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so ..here we have ruby walsh,39 years of age.has had a huge amount of injurys but has recovered bravely from them. 58 cheltenham festival wins,11 times cheltenham leading jockey,12 times irish champion jockey. over 2000 career wins .the opinions from the keyboard warriors here are that he jumps off horses at 35mph because paddy power tells him to. his eyesight is bad.john francome says he isnt presenting horses right at final obstacles. so we have a bent, blind jockey who cant see a proper stride coming to the last obstacle in races!! despite his wins to rides ratio at 30% and his falls to rides in line with other top jockeys..but dont let facts stand in your way people!!
my own opinion is that hes the greatest nh jockey weve ever seen and continues to be. |
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and just for the record i had a big bet today on quick grabim. the mistake 2 out was the reason he didnt fight out the finish.
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Kavvie , if you are out the back and you make a mistake, then you have no chance to recover . If you ride horses like that then you cannot afford any mistakes . Ruby was the best rider ever but he’s lost his aura now , he’s gone and what’s worse for him, the guys riding against him , know he’s gone.
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would you agree jimeen that thats his style on most horses all his life..settle at the back and creep into it? i agree a mistake fcuks you but its mostly worked for him all his life..
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Kavvie , ruby could ride them any way , from the back or from the front , when he was at his absolute peak , there was nobody even close to him, but it’s all changed now . He’s not a shadow of what he was , he’s still better than most , but he’s nowhere near the standard of old .
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hes not as good as he was but i cant see anyone better..the sh1te thats being spouted here i had to reply!!
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his falls to rides in line with other top jockeys.
One thinks the above tells the world that your head and Ruby's nether regions are in total proximity, Kavvie. Never let the facts get in the way of your religious beliefs. |
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and you have statistics to back up that loper? as in last fence falls when in contention ? as in rides to falls?
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Agreed Loper, its some trick getting both their heads that far up their delusional backsides.
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go ahead and all agree with each other.it might make you feel good!!
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anyone laying rubys rides or just woffling sh!te?
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jockeys shouldn't have any association with a major bookmaker until they retire. it's bad enough that we've got every major trainer walking around with a bookie's sponsored overcoat on ... just ridiculous
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In reply to the gentleman who said "prescription goggles" about my thoughts on Mr Walsh's possible declining eyesight, I would suggest contact lenses. His vision is clearly not what it used to be. There is no disputing that Mr Walsh has been a fine jockey, but recently he has been making a serious number of errors.
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I was just being flippant shlotter and all meant in good fun and almost as fun as reading the comment that an almost 40 year old jump jockey's days are apparently numbered.
I'd be surprised though if Ruby had any issues with his eyes to the extent that it affected his ability when jumping an obstacle considering even if he maybe isn't seeing things as well from afar, he will once he starts coming in to approach them. It's far more likely to be a case of his horse's stride pattern doesn't always meet the obstacle spot on so either puts in another stride and gets in too close or goes for a long one. That applies to all jockeys though regardless. To use an analogy, most people have no difficulty crossing a road and stepping up on to a pavement but if you were walking along the pavement of a long main road, taking your normal stride length and crossed over several side roads along the way, each time you needed to step back up on to the pavement you will have a mixture of meeting it in a perfect stride, as well as a few where your last but one stride puts you closer to the kerb and others where you have to slightly reach for it to step up. Another analogy is in athletics where you often see in the long jump an athlete count out their stride pattern and number of steps working backwards from the take off board, yet it still doesn't stop them from foul jumping when stepping over the line, or either standing farther off the board than ideal or having to put in a last few corrective stuttering strides before their take off. As far as last hurdle or fence falls goes when a horse approaches it with a decent lead, the two options for the jockeys are to sit quietly and let the horse fiddle or pop it by itself when it knows instinctively or through habit or experience to take off at the obstacle, or they actively ask if for a jump instead. Oddly enough both options are apparently the right or wrong thing to do, depending on whether the horse stands up or not. |
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I think if Mr Walsh took the time to visit an optician before Leopardstown, then I think he will be back in the winners enclosure on a more frequent basis. If he does not at least have a check up then I fear he may have a very serious fall. Fairyhouse is on in a couple of weeks and the way he is riding I can see him doing cartwheels flying down Ballyhack...
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as I said AD gets everyone in the end
the difficult part is acknowledging it and then acting on it-this is especially difficult for sportsmen like jockeys who have never known anything else in their lives |
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AD gets everyone in the end with what respect?
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Mr McCoy, Mr Carberry, Mr Culloty and Mr Dunwoody all managed to get out of the game before the game got them. I have been following Mr Walsh since his apprentice days and if he has any sense he should start training before another bad fall potentially cripples him for life.
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Shlotter, A bad fall POTENTIALLY cripples ANYONE....
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anyone who has played a physical sport knows that age ultimately affects performance
whether that it is strength, stamina, injury recovery time or reflexes to name but 4 it would be unlikely that RW is unaffected by any of the above most people on here are mentioning this purely because they would hate his career to end with a serious injury |