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Takes some doing start to wonder about annie power now.
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Technically footpad didn't fall, he unseated
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Ruby always been vastly over rated, his record for fallers is far worse than any other jockey despite the fake claims of his supporters on here. Ruby really should retire now, 4 fallers on the trot really takes incompetence.
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Surely he must be thinking about getting out sooner rather than later, probably too proud to quit right now.
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well backed horses being ridden by man employed by major bookmaker constantly fall. quelle surprise.
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A 'slipped up' would be an appropriate next entry in the formline.
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Has that ever happened to any top jockey? If not, could he have contributed to their fall? If so, confidence and judgement lacking perhaps due to longevity of absence. Not writing him off just yet nevertheless be interesting what happens in his next few rides.
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It won't always be the case but Ruby is likely to have more falls than some jockeys who ease their mounts when beaten and come home in their own time because many of the horses he rides are in contention for longer and are going at racing pace jumping the final few obstacles.
It does amuse me a little though to hear that despite him being NH Champion Jockey in Ireland 12 times after having won the amateur title twice, or that he's the winning most jockey at the Cheltenham Festival with 58 wins over a 20 year period of earliest to latest that includes the Arkle, Bumper, Champion Hurdle, Gold Cup, Queen Mother, RSA, Triumph and World/Stayers' Hurdle with some of those won several times, or has at least once won all of the Aintree, Irish, Scottish and Welsh Grand Nationals, or had won 2 French Champion Hurdles, as well as having won big races in America, Australia and Japan, or that he has ridden over 2,500 career winners and counting, or that he has been awarded the Horse Racing Ireland National Hunt award 5 times as well as has been the International Jockey of the Year 3 times at the Lester's, yet he is apparently vastly overrated....What chance have the rest of them got then I wonder?  Do you have the statistics basilbrush to back up your claim "his record for fallers is far worse than any other jockey" or did you just pluck....say that off the top of your head? I'm also not exactly sure why 4 consecutive falls is any more or less incompetent than say a fall every other ride from 8 either. Surely if the horses are going to fall anyway (and its they that jump the obstacles and not the jockeys) then the sequences of races is largely irrelevant. |
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Paddy Power profits soar as Paddy Power ambassador falls off yet another fav ...
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Good post from ima_mazed66
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I remember the Kevin Blake article about last fence fallers obviously this is somewhat different,as far as NH jockeys go Walsh for me is the best there's ever been.
http://www.attheraces.com/article/570435 |
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Like a champion boxer whose chin has gone...time for Willie to have a chat with him.
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The bloke is without any doubt past it.
Yes,he WAS a great jockey when in his prime but old father time has caught up with him.......problem is, he doesn't think so. I certainly can never remember in my 45 years in racing a top jockey falling off so many horse at the last. This is obviously on his mind during a race as he is transmitting this lack of confidence to the horse. If this continues surely Mullins has to sack him and hand over the reigns to the younger brigade. His arrogant manner does not help to make him remotely likeable imvho. Ruby do us a favour.....trot off. Btw still will never forgive you falling at the last at Cheltenham on Annie Power......cost me bloody thousands. Yep pocket talking but who bloody cares!! |
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his talent is indisputable backed up by the facts trotted out by ima
however, it is always worrying when an older jock starts to have a lot of falls, anno domini gets everyone in the end |
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i think similar thoughts being posted on previous threads ....i want him to retire before the ' wenger effect ' means we remember his falls and not his brilliant rides . a great jockey , possibly the best all rounder , in his pomp .
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Ruby was the best NH rider that ever rode , but not anymore. Time waits for nobody , and likewise Geraghty is another one who’s a shadow of his former self .
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jimeen , you are spot on . i just think they are frightened of giving it up , its been their 24 hour a day life . bur so many youngsters snapping to come through . i think bryony frost is the best girl ive ever seen , on a par with rachel blackmore . young bowen is very hard ...as you say , times move on .
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I never thought I’d see the day that girls would be a positive when betting a horse , but it has arrived . There are some really good jockeys in Britain right now , as well as the usual duds
The likes of the Bowen’s, De Boinville, Johnson, Jacob, Scudamore, Brennan, Fehily, Hughes are all excellent riders and rarely make mistakes . You then have a few run of the millers like Twiston-Davies, Cobden, Hutchinson, wedge, O Brien , Bass, who are just about ok, and then you have the likes of Scholfield , Gethings , Cawley , Aspell , Bannister , McLernon, Woods , Fox, Nichol, Powell , Tinkler , Lizzie Kelly , who are nigh on unbackable |
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nigh on?
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jimmy talking pony as per.
wd dambuster..must of bagged up laying his rides. |
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hulk23 10 Nov 18 19:11
Paddy Power profits soar as Paddy Power ambassador falls off yet another fav ... Meaning what exactly? Is there any implication in your comment? Dr Crippen 10 Nov 18 20:00 Good post from ima_mazed66 Thank you. In a general reply I still think the age thing is a bit of a red herring in many ways. Yes jockeys have to be fit and they tend to be regardless of age but as I've said on here before, it's not the same as in other sports where age becomes more of a factor due to not being able to perform in those that require being physically active for a sustained period. Jockeys are only actively involved in anything physical for very shorter periods at a time and get plenty of recovery time in between. I would say that the vast majority of NH jockeys pack up due to injury, lack of rides/drop in quality of rides, other job opportunities or have just decided they have had enough of the grind of dieting, early morning starts, travelling and so on, more than it being any age factor. Yes of course any NH jockey who has been riding for say 15-20 years will be of a certain age anyway, but I'm sure McCoy was older than Ruby is now when he packed up yet still won several top class races in his final season and Noel Fehily and Richard Johnson are both older than Ruby too. |
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ima you have to admit though that other sports dont result in some of the pretty bad injuries that RW has had
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I personally think Mr Walsh should have retired ten years ago for his long term health, he has had some terrible injuries. No doubt he was one of the finest jockeys ever, but I actually think his reactions at certain times when he asks a horse to go long at the final fence has meant some high profile falls. One thing I think Mr Walsh should consider is getting his eyes tested. I have a feeling his vision is not 20/20, as a result of other injuries and minor complications. I hope he does the wise thing and call it a day before another very serious fall.
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I personally think Mr Walsh should have retired ten years ago for his long term health, he has had some terrible injuries. No doubt he was one of the finest jockeys ever, but I actually think his reactions at certain times when he asks a horse to go long at the final fence has meant some high profile falls. One thing I think Mr Walsh should consider is getting his eyes tested. I have a feeling his vision is not 20/20, as a result of other injuries and minor complications. I hope he does the wise thing and call it a day before another very serious fall.
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Walsh's record for fallers at the last truly appalling, but his fanatics just won't have it.......also it doesn't help that his public persona is that of an extremely arrogant and unpleasant man, who seems to care little for his horses..... He never has been one of my favourites..
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Anyone bothering to go near the paddock would have noticed that Footpad got warm on what was a cold day, his coat had not come through either, who knows maybe he has fallen at home. Regards Ruby surely the greatest N.H. jockey in the past 50 years, Sadlier was also on his toes bigtime in the paddock Ruby did well to get him onto the course as it happens.That's just a little reflection of yesterday, maybe they thought running Footpad @ 90% would be enough, did they believe the English challenger would have turned up, I doubt it .
Ruby was unlucky on both his mounts, Footpad never really relished the fences, in fact the winner put in a few poor jumps. Had Footpad jumped the last it would have been close, his turn of foot is amazing and he hadn't been asked a serious question. Sadlier looked to have his race won at the last or had he ?. Mark hadn't asked his mount for everything either,D'allen was a top class horse last year and looked a picture in the paddock and there was plenty of money for him as well. Ruby presented him beautifully at the last, the HORSE made the mistake not Ruby least we forget, will he retire that's another question altogether. Having suffered like most on here at his falls I can understand the frustration, but make no mistake this guy is FAR from finished.. |
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hi workrider - interesting that footpad drifted from 2/9 to sp of 4/9 and saldier from 5/4 to 13/8 which supports what you say below about their appearance beforehand - i backed espoir but thought it was beaten, but good to see it back close to form - backed saint calvados each run last year but left alone yesterday as was out all afternoon, on soft going this is a proper horse and looks like it will be the one to take on altior as wouldn't be surprised if footpad went up in trip
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and good to see gavin cromwell making sustained run to join the top rank of irish trainers
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No markets on quick grabem to fall
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It is alright defending him, however, it just seems to regular. To put it another way, If, I back him to win, I always leave a
lay price up, because it is him. It seems if he does fall, it will be the last. Maybe, he has been unlucky a few times, however, you cannot keep saying it was unlucky. |
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Its a strange anomaly to say the least, how would he compare stats wise with the other half a dozen top jocks for last flight falls ??
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workrider - interesting to see if quick grabim is as good as he looked at tipperary, just like racing if ruby had a good day
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Dire effort there as well
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disgraceful stuff from ruby ..
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Paul Townend showing whos the proper jockey
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That was just incompetent
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never put in the race.
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Please put Townend back on. He just suits the horse much better cos he's a jockey
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that race sums up what Irish racing has become, 1 stable, multiple owners and they decide which horse tries in which race.
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