what happened to his speed figs?

lol

in fairness they dont take into account getting taken out at the start

The real experts have speed fingers.

i don't like to hear excuses - even if it was valid. Just take it on the chin.

its not an excuse, its a fact

i've laid enough winners that have been slow away / bumped to know they can still win

my point was on speed figures

every chance it may not have won anyway

cool, thanks