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roggrain
26 Sep 18 19:20
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25 minutes between races not 35.

Fewer meetings, but 8 races min. per card.

Purpose built camera towers on every racecourse to do away with the problems on windy days.

Every racecourse to own it's  own sets of starting stalls thereby avoiding the necessity of transporting them all over the countryside. This would enable stalls to be wider and less

intimidating to some horses.

Enough stalls handlers to have each runner accompanied in it's stall,as they do in the US. Load in Numerical order. EG stalls 1&6, 2&7, 3&8 etc.

No horse allowed to be loaded into the stalls wearing a blindfold unless it is removed before the starter lets them go.

Mandatory,race-day barrier trials for any recalcetrant horses.

Programme numbers to match stall numbers. Why is it necessary to number them according to their handicap rating or alpahbetical order?

Sectional timing all races.

No horse allowed to run in a handicap until it has placed in a maiden or novice race.

Do away with over the top dress codes. I for one refuse to wear a suit and tie!

Turn down the vulume on the tanoy systems. It's like being in a night club on most courses now. Oh,and whatever the volume, do not hire Thommo to MC!

Mandatory 7 day suspensions for any jockey bouncing up and down (i.e 'stopping') on a horses back.

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By:
ashleigh
When: 26 Sep 18 19:23
and who is going to pay for all this?
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 26 Sep 18 19:26
2 outriders at every meeting, it would cost peanuts and would help resolve some of the ridiculous delays we get.
By:
roggrain
When: 26 Sep 18 19:27
Ah,Ashley you reminded me of one I'd left out.

All racecourses to get together and form a Tote with all profits going to racing would be a good start.

The rent racecourses are paying for stalls is probably more over time than owning their own.

The only other additional expense would be more stalls handlers.
By:
roggrain
When: 26 Sep 18 19:28
Thanks Slippy I forgot that one.
By:
Latalomne
When: 26 Sep 18 19:29
Someone said during the York meeting that the Aussie-style stalls were £1m a pop!  Can't imagine too many courses having that sort of cash kicking around.
By:
jimeen
When: 26 Sep 18 19:31
Make it compulsory that every race on the AW is at least 10 runners and we have have a 5 6 7 8 and 9 places market , so that way the lads who are laying their horses , have more options than they have at the moment . After all if there were no owners , trainers and jockeys ,there would be no racing.
By:
roggrain
When: 26 Sep 18 19:31
That someone might not know what he's talking about.Lata.
By:
onlooker
When: 26 Sep 18 19:54
rograin ...

Programme numbers to match stall numbers. Why is it necessary to number them according to their handicap rating
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ANSWER..

That is a Nonsense - and entirely unnecessary ...Talk about making FORM Study/Racecard Appraisal  HARDER - and LESS ATTRACTIVE to both new and long-standing Punters. Cry
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rograin

All racecourses to get together and form a Tote with all profits going to racing

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ANSWER ...

Chester, Ripon, and Bangor - are already doing that - with ASCOT about to join them -

However - The, "Profits," are [b]going to those RACECOURSES - and NOT Racing.
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rograin ...

25 minutes between races not 35.
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ANSWER ...

There are more meetings held in Australia - yet races RARELY Start LATE.

However - Australia has 35 and 30 minutes between races - and most races are 1000 metres (5 fur) 1200 (6f) 1600 (1m) too.

Reducing UK Race separation times to 25 mins would/could only exacerbate the LATE OFF issue = 1.01.
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rograin - Quite a number of your suggestion appear to be predominantly from an 'In-Running' favouring  perspective.
By:
onlooker
When: 26 Sep 18 19:55
^ *  Australia has 35 and 40 minutes between races
By:
roggrain
When: 26 Sep 18 19:57
So is that a good thing onlooker?
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 26 Sep 18 20:00
Personally i would get rid of all AW racing, but maybe that wouldn't go down so well on here Wink
By:
roggrain
When: 26 Sep 18 20:04
Agreed Andrew. We should have racing on dirt not AW!
By:
foxy
When: 26 Sep 18 20:05
A tote system sounds a bundle of fun ffs
By:
sparrow
When: 26 Sep 18 20:06
Here we go again with personal likes and dislikes. I for one will not advocate abolishing races I personally dislike.
By:
onlooker
When: 26 Sep 18 20:14
onlooker    26 Sep 18 19:55 
^ *  Australia has 35 and 40 minutes between races

roggrain    26 Sep 18 19:57 
So is that a good thing onlooker?
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Reference my earlier remark ....


There are more meetings held in Australia - yet races RARELY Start LATE.

BECAUSE of that LONGER gap between races.

Were Australian races to be every 25 mins, instead - You could bet that their exceptional Start PUNCTUALITY record would definitely be impaired - and probably on a par with some of our racecourse culprits.
By:
doorman99
When: 26 Sep 18 20:20
Couple trainers horses, detest it when Elliott, Mullins, Johnson etc win with the outsider of 2. Would love 30 min time (or less) across the board, where did the awful 35 min for everyday racing come in, extra 5 mins seems like forever on a freezing day at the races in winter.
By:
roggrain
When: 26 Sep 18 20:26
What does it matter if races are off late? I subscribe to RTN for US racing. They have access to every race in the States. You can watch any race from any track i.e they have a separate feed for each track. The problem here that ATR and RUK don't.

Another thing that needs fixing.
By:
foxy
When: 26 Sep 18 20:29
What’s wrong with the yards outsider winning I would not want coupling one that spring to mind is when penhill won his first stayers hurdle after his win at limerick I was happy to back him on his own I wasn’t interested in what Ruby choose or betting him along side the stables other 3 runners I am afraid anyone in favour of coupling just wants it easy it doesn’t work like that effort and imagination along with opinion is needed.
By:
McCoy Carp
When: 26 Sep 18 20:58
As soon as a course dolls off hurdles or fences because of low sun, then the course should lose that fixture the following year. If there is a danger of low sun then course should not have been granted the fixture in the first place.
By:
GAZO
When: 26 Sep 18 21:36
a strong tote system would be great but they would need to lower the take out to make it more attractive,they could then advertise how often tote prices beat sp and also try to include some type of multiple bets,sadly there only ambition (chesterbet and co) is to effectively fleece punters and try and get a small bit of a small pie.
By:
hulk23
When: 26 Sep 18 22:05
should be able to void your bet if they doll off any hurdles or fences because of low sun.  maybe you can ....
By:
Barton Bank
When: 26 Sep 18 22:15
Would struggle to think of a worse idea for encouraging people to bet than "coupling" horses.
By:
differentdrum
When: 26 Sep 18 23:27
Obviously, they are not going to happen:-

Massive cull of fixtures, confine all-weather to winter months. Midweek Festival meetings to be stand alone. Scrap summer jumping and recreate distinct turf seasons. If meetings are lost to the weather don't automatically create extra all-weather fixtures to replace them. 

No split handicaps and no more than three per card. 

Whip carried only for steering purposes.

If horses are entered at the 48 hour stage they should be prepared to run regardless of the going.

Jockeys should be fined for not riding out for the best possible placing beyond standard place terms as bookmakers are increasingly offering extra places.

The time given to horses going in the stalls should be reduced.

TV Companies to upload old races rather than show them as a treat once in a blue moon. If they hold all this great footage let people view it. History is massive to this sport. 

Reduce the cost of RUK and the Racing Post. Both prices clearly take advantage of racing being a rich man's pastime.

Get rid of the gravy train cheerleaders and find some people who are actually willing to criticise.
By:
TheGoddess
When: 26 Sep 18 23:44
2 MEETINGS A DAY WITH 15 MINUTE GAPS BETWEEN RACES MON TUE WED.
3 MEETINGS A DAY WITH 10 MINUTE GAPS BETWEEN RACES THUR FRI.
4 MEETINGS A DAY WITH 10 MINUTE GAPS BETWEEN RACES SAT SUN (3 FLAT AND 1 JUMP APRIL-SEPTEMBER).

RACING TO START 1.00PM DAILY MARCH - SEPTEMBER, 12.00 DAILY OCTOBER - FEBRUARY.

1 EVENING CARD SEPT-APRIL.
2 EVENING CARDS MAY-AUGUST.

REDUCING THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS AS ABOVE SHOULD INCREASE THE OVERALL FIELD SIZES..

ALL MEETINGS CAN BE UP TO 10 RACES IN TOTAL - AS LONG AS DIVIDED RACES HAVE A MINIMUM OF 8 DECLARATIONS.

ANY RACE WITH LESS THAN 8 DECLARATIONS TO BE SCRAPPED.

STIFFER PENALTIES TO YARDS WITH PERSISTENT NON RUNNERS.

DO AWAY WITH 48 HOUR DECS ON THE FLAT - KEEP IT HOWEVER FOR ALL GROUP 1'S AND HERITAGE HANDICAPS.

GET RID OF THE SHERGAR CUP.

DO LAST 6 PLACEPOTS AS WELL AS FIRST 6.

BRING BACK QUALITY RACING IN TO THE MID WEEK - TOO MANY BIG RACES ON A SATURDAY (THEY JUST ALL BLEND IN AND LOSE THEIR IMPACT).

HOW BUSY WAS THE DERBY WHEN IT WAS ON ON A WEDNESDAY - IT WAS THE FOCAL POINT OF THE DAY - NOW ITS A RACE AMONG 50 ODD TAKING PLACE ON THE SAME DAY.
By:
brassneck
When: 27 Sep 18 00:16
i think that there is a great way of getting money back into horse racing.And it concerns involving the grand national day.The horse racing board should run some sort of raffle in conjunction with the big day with a super massive prize of a life time for the winner.(something so good that everyone in the country wants a ticket)millions of people have a flutter on national day(in fact even the baby in the pram gets a horse backed for it on that day) in one day the horse racing board could get millions and millions of pounds for horse racing if they were to advertise their raffle correctly ,and spend the other 51 weeks selling tickets.advertising their super duper raffle and the prize  of a life time that would be on offer.And they could do it every year ,a sort of sweepstake connected to the winner of the race.
so that is only one idea to get loads of millions of pounds back into racing'but before all this is done i suggest that someone should sack the horse racing board and get some people who are prepared to work to improve horse racing because the powers that be at the moment don't care about horse racing ,and its my guess that the powers that be are the same people who also hold the powers to sack the board.so they will not sack themselves,but they will sit on the hands and do nothing.that are only interested in themselves .IMVHO
By:
brassneck
When: 27 Sep 18 00:40
i think its something like 300 million people tune in world wide to view the grand national,but if they all had a horse in the race that would get them through to the next round for the prize of a life time it would be fun,then move on to another big race like the 1000 guineas,2000 guineas,the oaks,the derby,gold cup an so ,and everyone  who has a ticket goes from round to round until you have one lucky winner.if advertised correctly the raffle could become  as famous as the grand national itself,and horse racing itself would improve in leaps and bounds,big leaps and big bounds,and loads of money to run the industry in the proper fashion that it should be run.
By:
Latalomne
When: 27 Sep 18 07:26

Sep 26, 2018 -- 8:58PM, McCoy Carp wrote:


As soon as a course dolls off hurdles or fences because of low sun, then the course should lose that fixture the following year. If there is a danger of low sun then course should not have been granted the fixture in the first place.


Unfortunately there are not many straight 3m 5f courses in the UK.

By:
Ramruma
When: 27 Sep 18 07:34
One reason the Racing Post costs so much is there is too much racing. All those cards and form need to be printed and that is probably their main expense. The OP's final proposal is clearly there just to wind up Pat Eddery fans.
By:
Ramruma
When: 27 Sep 18 07:38
@brassneck's suggestion is the sort of thing you'd expect from racing's rulers. It's like holding pop concerts at race meetings. Tying racing to a glorified raffle does not increase interest in racing, just in raffles.
By:
wasnot
When: 27 Sep 18 07:51
I'd increase access so more people become engaged in the sport.  Free to air TV coverage (freeview) plus reducing admission costs dramatically.  I'd also make a cheap "family" ring compulsory at every course where standard admission is £10 or more.  Unless people engage with the sport where will the punters of the future come from?  I'd also make it compulsory to offer refunds to people who walk out of a course before a concert starts so if people want to go just for the racing they can.
By:
foxy
When: 27 Sep 18 08:18
the goddess

you make a lot of very good suggestions in particular bringing more quality back to midweek racing,your suggestions on the number of meetings each day i think is just about spot on,voiding races with less than 8 runners isnt on whilst not ideal you have to consider owners who have made advanced plans to go and see there horse run,regarding the shergar cup i really dont see what harm it does they get a really good crowd at ascot that day they get runners just ignore it if it is not your cup of tea.all in all though some really good suggestions.
By:
Johnny_Mustang
When: 27 Sep 18 09:02
A hog roast at each track to encourage more fat people to come racing.

On-course tattoo parlours for the aforementioned to top themselves up between races.

Designated, cordoned off fighting area for the mass brawlers.

The cessation of 'music nights' which will be replaced by live screening of Love Island.

Members' car parks to be bulldozed to make room for Thorp Park-themed ride.

That should do the trick.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 27 Sep 18 09:04
british racing is the best in the world, the fixtures and established pattern in the racing calendar is perfection. concerts at race courses was a brilliant idea to increase revenue streams. i would like the
racing post to have a picture of where the stalls are with their numbers on the race cards and directional flow, this would be more punter friendly.
By:
duncan idaho
When: 27 Sep 18 09:07
FREE HOT DOGS
By:
foxy
When: 27 Sep 18 09:09
good morning jm you really do have a liking for tattoos dont you.

good morning wasnot your point about cheap family rings at all courses is of course right and not just from a cost point of view ,most families on a summer saturday would be very uncomfortable in main rings at the likes of haydock and chester.
By:
foxy
When: 27 Sep 18 09:10
free racecards
By:
sparrow
When: 27 Sep 18 09:16
Racecards should be given out at the turnstile and included with the cost of admission as it has always been with Greyhound Racing.
By:
wasnot
When: 27 Sep 18 09:18
Football grounds have family friendly areas foxy so people with kids can enjoy a day out without feeling intimidated.
By:
foxy
When: 27 Sep 18 09:19
those who pay top prices sparrow almost always get a free race card whilst those with a smaller budget have to pay.
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