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acey deucy
06 Sep 18 11:16
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Who's gonna bottle out Gosden Or Stoute?

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By:
Andriy
When: 06 Sep 18 11:42
And Weekender as a pacemaker i assume, so should be a very genuine pace.
By:
acey deucy
When: 06 Sep 18 11:48
I will be very surprised if they both turn up even though they have been declared to run.
By:
Andriy
When: 06 Sep 18 11:54
Don't see why both don't run. JG has always said this is the target for Enable, and i don't think he'd be bothered about finishing a close 2nd to Ocean since it's all about being 100% for the Arc. Stoute will have always known Enable is to run, so why would he pull Ocean out now.
By:
acey deucy
When: 06 Sep 18 11:58
Well I hope your right.Grin
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Sep 18 12:09
Crystal Ocean is doing battle with Enable giving the filly 5lbs plus 3 filly allowance; 13/8 and 4/7 respectively with only a bookie quoting at the moment. A great opportunity for potential layer of Enable if sceptical about the fitness and/or welfare of the filly, I believe.
By:
acey deucy
When: 06 Sep 18 12:10
If it happens Crystal Ocean all the way for me.
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Sep 18 12:27
No reason why either will not run on saturday, all being well. I think this race could also be a fact-finding opportunity for connections of Crystal Ocean regards a possible tilt in the Breeders' Cup whether on the Dirt or Turf.
By:
acey deucy
When: 06 Sep 18 12:33
What two Superstars Dukin it out for peanuts?.....Doesn't make much sense to me.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 06 Sep 18 12:37
Would be great to see September Stakes and Winter Derby upgraded to group 2.
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 06 Sep 18 13:02
It's a conditions race, Crystal Ocean has to give Enable 8 lb (based on G2 win after March) yet is only 1 lb ahead on ratings.

Crystal Ocean will be fitter, but first run on AW surface. Enable has proven form on Polytrack (and Tapeta).

Stablemate Weekender will ensure a decent pace.

A race to watch, and i like Crystal Ocean, but if i had to bet i would be with Enable.
By:
Johnny_Mustang
When: 06 Sep 18 13:31
Poor Cribbs Causeway and Peak Princess. Connections probably thought they'd pick up a cheap G3 and that lot turn up.
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Sep 18 17:44
Upgraded to Gp 2...on an all-weather track? Never, the venue is not fit for proper British Horse Racing.
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 06 Sep 18 17:46
It's a conditions race, Crystal Ocean has to give Enable 8 lb (based on G2 win after March) yet is only 1 lb ahead on ratings.

To clarify the above (my post of 13.02) that is actually incorrect the way it reads. It should be ....

A group 3 race with conditions, Crystal Ocean has to give Enable 8 lb (including a 5 lb group 2 win after March penalty) yet is only 1 lb ahead on ratings.

In mitigation, i was typing, eating ice cream and trying to post before going back to work Wink
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 06 Sep 18 17:51
Impossible123,

Upgraded to Gp 2...on an all-weather track? Never, the venue is not fit for proper British Horse Racing.

Promoted to Group 3 status in 1982.

Has been run at Newmarket and Epsom, but was originally staged on the turf track at Kempton.
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