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Report TheFear • August 23, 2018 8:18 PM BST
shd go mate anything makes a diff when it's a dead heat
Report onlooker • August 23, 2018 8:19 PM BST
Betfair SUSPENDED PHOTO Market MINUTES before ATR announced RESULT

NOW a STEWARDS.

Unbelievable    Cry
Report jamesdean • August 23, 2018 8:19 PM BST
Was there contact?  haven't seen head on
Report broadsword • August 23, 2018 8:20 PM BST
no
Report TheFear • August 23, 2018 8:20 PM BST
dont need contact - intimidated isnt it?
Report TheFear • August 23, 2018 8:20 PM BST
ive overstaked so it's bound to stand Cry
Report jamesdean • August 23, 2018 8:21 PM BST
cheers bd

no sure tf, probably one to leave alone
Report TheFear • August 23, 2018 8:22 PM BST
scottish jig was 3 horse widths off the rail until the other one took him across. Should go in my opinion but you never know obviously
Report hulk23 • August 23, 2018 8:24 PM BST
if the jig runs straight it wins, covers less ground.  it couldn't due to the other horse shifting off a straight line.
Report TheFear • August 23, 2018 8:24 PM BST
exactly it's not a 50/50 it should go. Depend sif havlin is capable of saying it made 1mm diff
Report jamesdean • August 23, 2018 8:25 PM BST
result stands, weighed in
Report TheFear • August 23, 2018 8:26 PM BST
Cry
Report TheFear • August 23, 2018 8:28 PM BST
i think a lot depends on how determined the jockey is. Havlin probably happy to have a draw with Cosgrave. If he can't talk his way to the one he should give up. When Hanagan got one the other day you could tell he went in there determined to get it.
Report onlooker • August 23, 2018 8:38 PM BST
Now Havlin gets a 4-day   ban - for whip misuse.
Report handtorofe • August 23, 2018 8:40 PM BST
That is crazy break the rules but keep the race
Report EVILROYSLADE • August 23, 2018 8:43 PM BST
I have to agree Hand.
Report TheFear • August 24, 2018 10:35 AM BST
I wonder if the 4 day whip ban made amending the result more tricky? They would have had to give this race to Havlin and then banned him for the whip.

I still think this was a bad decision. These days they don't always call an official, public enquiry yet they did here. So they knew sth had taken place and yet it didn't effect a dead heat? Cmon manCry.

The betting was interesting for this because of the dead heat factor. Imo the dead heat wasn't been factored in properly. You could lay Cosgrave knowing worst way you only have to pay dead heat rules and yet he wasn't far off evens?

And what if BF had settled the market - a "Keep the race" market wouldn't have much good :/
Report TheFear • August 24, 2018 10:36 AM BST
THE SPORTNATION.BET HOME OF REWARDS FILLIES' HANDICAP STAKES (CLASS 4)

There appeared to be interference involving the dead-heat winners, SCOTTISH JIG (USA), ridden by Robert Havlin and PRIDE’S GOLD (USA), ridden by Pat Cosgrave. The riders were interviewed and shown recordings of the incident, after which it was found that no interference had taken place.

Robert Havlin, the rider of the winner, SCOTTISH JIG (USA), was suspended for 4 days for using his whip above the permitted level from 1 ½ furlongs out.
Report hulk23 • August 24, 2018 10:56 AM BST
don't buy it either.  agreed there was no interference per se but there is absolutely no doubt scottish jig was carried off a straight line by prides gold veering back across the track.  did that cost it a centimetre ?  you'd have to say it probably did ...
Report TheFear • August 24, 2018 11:20 AM BST
Definitely hulk. The game is totally bent. I presume Cosgrave and Havlin are long term pals from the weighing room so they are happy with a "draw" and next time Cosgrave helps out Havlin. But what they are happy with shouldn't come into it it's the punters that count and that definitely should have been amended.
Report Willie Shafter. • August 24, 2018 11:46 AM BST
yard apart..nowt to see imo.
Report TheFear • August 24, 2018 12:34 PM BST
intimidated him across, defo shd have gone. Nose can stand, dead heat HAS to go. JMO
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