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By:
TheFear
When: 23 Aug 18 20:18
shd go mate anything makes a diff when it's a dead heat
By:
onlooker
When: 23 Aug 18 20:19
Betfair SUSPENDED PHOTO Market MINUTES before ATR announced RESULT

NOW a STEWARDS.

Unbelievable    Cry
By:
jamesdean
When: 23 Aug 18 20:19
Was there contact?  haven't seen head on
By:
broadsword
When: 23 Aug 18 20:20
no
By:
TheFear
When: 23 Aug 18 20:20
dont need contact - intimidated isnt it?
By:
TheFear
When: 23 Aug 18 20:20
ive overstaked so it's bound to stand Cry
By:
jamesdean
When: 23 Aug 18 20:21
cheers bd

no sure tf, probably one to leave alone
By:
TheFear
When: 23 Aug 18 20:22
scottish jig was 3 horse widths off the rail until the other one took him across. Should go in my opinion but you never know obviously
By:
hulk23
When: 23 Aug 18 20:24
if the jig runs straight it wins, covers less ground.  it couldn't due to the other horse shifting off a straight line.
By:
TheFear
When: 23 Aug 18 20:24
exactly it's not a 50/50 it should go. Depend sif havlin is capable of saying it made 1mm diff
By:
jamesdean
When: 23 Aug 18 20:25
result stands, weighed in
By:
TheFear
When: 23 Aug 18 20:26
Cry
By:
TheFear
When: 23 Aug 18 20:28
i think a lot depends on how determined the jockey is. Havlin probably happy to have a draw with Cosgrave. If he can't talk his way to the one he should give up. When Hanagan got one the other day you could tell he went in there determined to get it.
By:
onlooker
When: 23 Aug 18 20:38
Now Havlin gets a 4-day   ban - for whip misuse.
By:
handtorofe
When: 23 Aug 18 20:40
That is crazy break the rules but keep the race
By:
EVILROYSLADE
When: 23 Aug 18 20:43
I have to agree Hand.
By:
TheFear
When: 24 Aug 18 10:35
I wonder if the 4 day whip ban made amending the result more tricky? They would have had to give this race to Havlin and then banned him for the whip.

I still think this was a bad decision. These days they don't always call an official, public enquiry yet they did here. So they knew sth had taken place and yet it didn't effect a dead heat? Cmon manCry.

The betting was interesting for this because of the dead heat factor. Imo the dead heat wasn't been factored in properly. You could lay Cosgrave knowing worst way you only have to pay dead heat rules and yet he wasn't far off evens?

And what if BF had settled the market - a "Keep the race" market wouldn't have much good :/
By:
TheFear
When: 24 Aug 18 10:36
THE SPORTNATION.BET HOME OF REWARDS FILLIES' HANDICAP STAKES (CLASS 4)

There appeared to be interference involving the dead-heat winners, SCOTTISH JIG (USA), ridden by Robert Havlin and PRIDE’S GOLD (USA), ridden by Pat Cosgrave. The riders were interviewed and shown recordings of the incident, after which it was found that no interference had taken place.

Robert Havlin, the rider of the winner, SCOTTISH JIG (USA), was suspended for 4 days for using his whip above the permitted level from 1 ½ furlongs out.
By:
hulk23
When: 24 Aug 18 10:56
don't buy it either.  agreed there was no interference per se but there is absolutely no doubt scottish jig was carried off a straight line by prides gold veering back across the track.  did that cost it a centimetre ?  you'd have to say it probably did ...
By:
TheFear
When: 24 Aug 18 11:20
Definitely hulk. The game is totally bent. I presume Cosgrave and Havlin are long term pals from the weighing room so they are happy with a "draw" and next time Cosgrave helps out Havlin. But what they are happy with shouldn't come into it it's the punters that count and that definitely should have been amended.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 24 Aug 18 11:46
yard apart..nowt to see imo.
By:
TheFear
When: 24 Aug 18 12:34
intimidated him across, defo shd have gone. Nose can stand, dead heat HAS to go. JMO
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