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08 Aug 18
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are they not worth taking on?
seem to recall a few getting turned over recently
a cheeky lay on this one in the 3.50 ponte
seem to recall a few getting turned over recently
a cheeky lay on this one in the 3.50 ponte
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need to start playing these photo's, 1.47 the near side, appeared to be well in front ...
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Good call.
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Lately op? Its been going on as long as I can remember with this trainer.
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Bets Wins Win% P/L(SP)
499 302 60.52 -9.02 |
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lose 14.99 points laying over 500 bets
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40 out of 51 last year
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*odds on shots according to industry sp
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had a run of 18 on the bounce
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he didnt learn much from his old boss who can run them 3 times in two weeks and show no sign of bouncing
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2 years before that negligible this year poor.
just seems like a normal distribution you can't predict to me at this stage. |
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40-51 is correct
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£14.43 points profit last year backing all odds on
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I bet the horse that bombed out today but it's worth noting that it's impressive win the other day came on a flat track with a long straight and on easy ground, a track he also ran very well at first time back this season. I don't think the faster ground or demands of Ponte suited the horse at all. He's looked quirky in his races and likes to travel into the race, he couldn't do that today and I believe the horse sulked. He's a horse that would only interest me in future with ease in the ground and on a track with a nice long straight where he can run a waiting race, without needing to chase. I'm not convinced the horse is that genuine.
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My mole said "It looks significant that James Doyle has made a rare visit to this meeting to partner the selection before shooting off to Kempton for three good mounts (one for this yard) the partnership landed a bit of a gamble last time out at Newmarket and the stable are not ones for turning horses out quickly so must feel he is in good form at home, has a penalty here but looks to be progressing"
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@Kenny
Don't doubt he was expected to win, having won so impressively last time and looking progressive and he was subject to rave reviews at home, but he was disappointing on his second start this season and he does look one of those that doesn't back up quickly, has quirks and might be best caught with ease in the ground after a break. |
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@MJK
The July course is a pretty steady climb, it's not really demanding at all, as you free wheel downhill to around the 2f marker so horses travel into races there, it's also why horses are hard to pass on from the front, as horses don't normally stop up it. Pontefract very different, as you are always climbing, have to climb around a bend as well and the final 2f is very stiff. |
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ok thanks domino
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Cheers D
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not sure there was much easy last week
Friday 03 August Friday 03 August at 16:40 Good to Firm 7.2 on 03-08-2018 at 07:00 |
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not backing up, seems a stronger indicator
Following the race, the representative of William Haggas reported that REVEREND JACOBS, which started favourite and finished fifth of six, ran flat having raced 5 days previously. |
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@Delta
I know they say Good-Firm but I'm pretty sure there was thunderstorms and rained most of the evening ? |
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there were some thunderstorms, possibly after his race?, all the crowd were out on his replay - later they were in the bars
win was new course record so must have been g/f (ish) |
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And another down, Alexana, lol.
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Haggas along with Varian are deadly for the backers with their odds on runners.
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another varian odds on true to form there
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oops thought it was odds on. sure it was at some point
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Another Varian odds on down.
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haggas odds on shot coming up. You know what to do, folks
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hoiles in running followers laid that one
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Another Varian odds on down
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Gleeful ...more like woeful shocking run
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People will say lay them, but the question is why do so many of them get beat?
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haggas one coming up
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Haggas odds on down. Its like finding money on the road
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People keep backing them at the wrong prices it seems.
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