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Just 18 Gb snowboarder dies on her 18 birthday  our thoughts are with her family, so sad life not fair in this world

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By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 26 Jul 18 21:31
Just been reading about this. Awful Sad
By:
themightymac
When: 26 Jul 18 21:37
That is very sad news.
By:
themightymac
When: 26 Jul 18 21:37
That is very sad news.
By:
Barton Bank
When: 26 Jul 18 21:41
Shocking.
By:
scaredmoney
When: 26 Jul 18 21:58
Terrible news Sad

RIP Ellie
By:
Virgin
When: 26 Jul 18 22:00
Shocked 18 Sad RIP
By:
cardifffc
When: 26 Jul 18 22:11
very sad
By:
domino14
When: 27 Jul 18 08:34
I don't wish to be devils advocate but I disagree with people saying life not fair. When someone decides to take their own life it's their decision. She was 18, whole life ahead of her, had already achieved so much, living in a lovely country and part of a GB team, and a genuine future in sport. Then can be no reason one can possibly imagine that would lead to someone of that age to commit suicide. Yes it's sad and will be gut wrenching for the family, but it's hard to make any sense as to why an 18 year old with the world at their feet would kill themselves. So it's not really a case of life's not fair, when in fact she made her own decision to end her life.
By:
posy
When: 27 Jul 18 09:15
Suicide on her 18th b'day...if true she must have been a very unhappy girl
By:
saddo
When: 27 Jul 18 09:48
domino, there is absolutely no sense or reason where depression is involved, those who cannot understand it should possibly consider themselves fortunate and leave it at that.
By:
portmanpark
When: 27 Jul 18 09:51
I assumed she died as a result of an accident.Poor kid.
By:
domino14
When: 27 Jul 18 09:52
@Saddo

In all due respect I do understand depression. I have had 2 very close friends who committed suicide and they had problems which they hid from everyone and no one had any idea about until after they died. But there is no logical reason why an 18yo who is making a success of their life should commit suicide.
By:
domino14
When: 27 Jul 18 09:53
@Portmanpark

Afraid not.
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 27 Jul 18 10:12
domino - no different than the likes of Gary Speed who had pretty much a great life to us outside his World, it doesn't mean they are happy regardless of what WE think. It's a shame that some of the freaks this planet has make it to a ripe old age - plenty of them who deserve the electric chair.
By:
portmanpark
When: 27 Jul 18 10:15
Gary Speeds death is still a mystery.Man had every to live for.
By:
domino14
When: 27 Jul 18 10:18
Maybe not best placed to say, but Gary Speed was about to be outed by a Red Top as being mixed up in some same sex relationship and that he was abused as a young footballer, so it's not exactly unknown why he committed suicide. He was suffering from a lot of stress and worried about the press digging in the knives to his past and personal life.

Sadly that's how the British press work.
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 27 Jul 18 10:47
That is all speculation though as it currently stands, regardless there are plenty of people who seem to be happy go lucky yet behind closed doors they are far from it. I am not getting into an argument or even debate about mental health as it is pointless. But if you think she just just got up yesterday and thought "what a great life and future I have, I am going to end it today" I think you are deluded. She probably felt she had no choice imo.
By:
domino14
When: 27 Jul 18 10:49
I'm not saying she did Magic_Daps. I already said I think it's sad, but all I was saying, was people were saying the world is not fair and I disagreed in this context. For whatever reason she chose to commit suicide, it was her own choice.
By:
Ramruma
When: 27 Jul 18 11:02
We learned just a few days ago that suicide rates increase in hot weather so perhaps it is simply the rising mercury that tipped her over the edge. That it was her 18th birthday, her coming of age, might have led her to reflect on her life.

A close friend of mine drowned himself. We never found out why. Every possible logical explanation turned out to be false (his missus was playing away? She was not. He was about to be sacked? His colleagues and directors loved him. He was skint? The savings accounts he'd thoughtfully listed immediately before setting out on his final journey contained over a million pounds. And so on).

I imagine Ellie Souter's family and friends will be searching for explanations. They may never find one. RIP.
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 27 Jul 18 11:21
rip very sad.
poor fmaily.
By:
stu
When: 27 Jul 18 12:10
Depression has nothing to do with what people have in life, money success etc

It is purely a mental state that can be very difficult to overcome domino
By:
stu
When: 27 Jul 18 12:11
Would have thought you'd know this given personal experience you mention here
By:
casemoney
When: 27 Jul 18 12:17
18 yo depressed could be a Boyfriend split up  ,who knows a sad turn of events Sad
By:
casemoney
When: 27 Jul 18 12:19
Depression seems to cover a wide area ,seem to be a lot of Depressed people who have F.A to be depressed about TBH ..

If they are that seriously ill surely their family or health care  would notice ??
By:
stu
When: 27 Jul 18 12:23
Lot of people with real depression also try to hide it casemoney
By:
stu
When: 27 Jul 18 12:24
I knew a guy who had just been promoted at work, best position he'd ever had, young wife and they had a small kid, laughing away at a party hung himself few days later....
By:
casemoney
When: 27 Jul 18 12:30
Stu I can Assure I have had plenty to be Depressed about and some extremely Low times the last 10/15 years , People have to try snap out of it ,as your saying perhaps there is not Enough education regarding the Disease ..

Regarding anyone taking their Life there could be various personal reasons Etc and I would not comment on that ,in this young ladies case it is a Tragic waste of Life ..

Half this social Media shyte Facebook and the rest of it Dont help over taking peoples life's...
By:
casemoney
When: 27 Jul 18 12:34
On the other End years back I had an Uncle Through him self off a Bridge ,he had what was really a Minor Housing Problem which would have been resolved in a few Days , but it literally pushed him over the Edge ,I met him a few hours before he done it I knew there was something seriously Wrong and even told my Mum and Dad Sad
By:
portmanpark
When: 27 Jul 18 12:41
throw*
By:
xaar
When: 27 Jul 18 12:41
suicide is an awful thing we deal with these days,i know a fella a while back a bit before Christmas him and his girl and two kids were putting the Christmas decorations up both kids under 6,after putting them up went to his garage put a rope up and hung himself for no apparent reason now that's unreal,also on another note gambling is the cause for many of these every year its sad
By:
casemoney
When: 27 Jul 18 12:46
I would Imagine the Roulette machines have taken their Toll over the Years Sad
By:
Latalomne
When: 27 Jul 18 12:47
Defo something in the heat thing.  Know of three people (within circles of friends rather than directly) who have taken their own lives in the last 2 months.  20 year old lad with the world at his feet (hanged), 50 year old woman who filled a rucksack with rocks, strapped it to herself and threw herself into a stream, and a 30 year old woman, successful business, married, young family (also hanged - second attempt at suicide).... 

I'm not going to pretend to 'get' how people end up in the situation where they see that as the only way out....  I guess I'm lucky.
By:
casemoney
When: 27 Jul 18 12:50
Throw would be the Correct wording .. as Portman has kindly pointed out .
By:
casemoney
When: 27 Jul 18 12:52
That was about my Comment Lat not yours .
By:
howard
When: 27 Jul 18 14:01
Success can be a pain in the @rse. Can get you involved with people who expect it to continue. And that can create real pressure.
By:
Facts
When: 27 Jul 18 16:11

domino14    27 Jul 18 10:49 
I'm not saying she did Magic_Daps. I already said I think it's sad, but all I was saying, was people were saying the world is not fair and I disagreed in this context. For whatever reason she chose to commit suicide, it was her own choice.



I think it very unfair that she decided to make the choice that the only way out of what ever demons were invading her life ( for whatever reason), was to take her own life.

Yes, it was her own choice. But people who commit suicide don't have a choice. They are not ' thinking' in that way.
By:
impossible123
When: 27 Jul 18 16:21
Very sad, such a young life taken away. RIP Ellie!

I think depression and suicide do not discriminate; one moment in cloud nine, the next into the another universe.
By:
A_T
When: 27 Jul 18 16:25
Suicide does not necessarily mean depression - there can be many reasons behind it
By:
howard
When: 27 Jul 18 16:32
Correct. You can just think you have a poor life that's not worth living and with little likely to get better. You are most likely to feel like that in late teenage years imo. You haven't the experience to see the big picture.
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