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By:
domino14
When: 24 Jul 18 15:57
He was warned off over the Greek trainer issues and I think he was linked to the Bill Hinge enquiry as well. That was a good few years ago now, so not sure if he is still banned or not.
By:
domino14
When: 24 Jul 18 15:59
@Gutfeeling

I too done my modules in 2013 Gutfeeling, but as well as the modules you have to have 18 months as an assistant trainer to be considered for a license, which is why Alice Haynes is assistant to John Butler, as she wants her license. Chelsea will be the same. Doing the modules is all well and good but unless you have a big name in racing and get a temp license, you have to complete 18 months as an assistant before you are considered for a license.
By:
gutfeeling
When: 24 Jul 18 16:05
I never minded Chelsea so I'll leave it there and wish her and Joey the best of luck, I just doubt she'll have the slightest say in any of it as time goes on, Hope I'm wrong but..
By:
gutfeeling
When: 24 Jul 18 16:06
Dom I know how it works.

Out of interest when you rode for Fanshawe what was the best horse of his you got a leg up on.
By:
Deltâ
When: 24 Jul 18 16:10
Long ole journey for Paul every morning
By:
domino14
When: 24 Jul 18 16:11
As is the norm Gutfeeling. When I rode for a yard I won't mention in Newmarket, there was 2 lads training half a dozen horses in the yard. I never rode their horses and the trainer whose name was on the license knew nothing about the horses, they took them out before 1st lot and they ran them as they saw fit. One day 2 ran and both were absolutely smashed off the boards, Matt Chapman on his morning program rang the trainer who knew nothing about the two horses and had to basically say a load of twaddle and that to Matt. The first one won and then the next one was pulled out 15 minutes later, apparently the ground not ideal, I imagine the boys had it off on the first one, and wanted to not risk the doubles.

It happens a lot in yards. Many yards (esp smaller ones) allow their assistants to have horses. You only have to look at the number of horses an ex jockey has in training with a big Newmarket yard and he rides them all out himself. He won't be paying full fee's that's for sure.

It happens a lot in smaller yards nowadays.

I would be amazed if Chelsea is pulling the strings, I don't know her personally but the yard she is in, was far from cheap rent wise, and she has bought cheap horses and pre training for a number of smaller owners and trainers. It comes as no surprise the people backing this Howling operation are gambling owners.
By:
gutfeeling
When: 24 Jul 18 16:12
Quiet that time of day though, Drive it like you stole it time.
By:
domino14
When: 24 Jul 18 16:12
@Gutfeeling

In a race or at home ?
By:
gutfeeling
When: 24 Jul 18 16:13
Either or....More about what you felt than what they achieve, Many great horses have patchy records for a multitude of reasons as you know Happy
By:
domino14
When: 24 Jul 18 16:15
I rode a couple of very good horses first time out who went on to be group horses, I won on both. But at home I worked a horse called Cesare a lot and a quirky but talented horse called Azarole, those would have been the best horses I rode out there. Was never allowed near Soviet Song !
By:
gutfeeling
When: 24 Jul 18 16:18
Ha loved Soviet Song, I wonder why he doesn't train any NH horses nowdays as I thought he was very talented with hurdlers / chasers.
By:
domino14
When: 24 Jul 18 16:19
Jeremy the best horse I've ever sat on. To work him at home was something else. He galloped like Pegasus at home, you didn't even feel him touching the ground, and you were going flat out but felt like you were hacking. He didn't achieve half of what we thought he would at home. To sit on, he felt the best I ever sat on, I thought he was going to be a world beater. My Favourite horse to ride out was a horse called Patkai, he was lazy but tried, great horse to gallop over 9f on the Limekilns, you would push him the whole way no matter what you worked him with and he just done what he had to. He had a great personality and was a real favourite of mine.
By:
gutfeeling
When: 24 Jul 18 16:26
You still in HQ then ?
By:
Deltâ
When: 24 Jul 18 16:27
chelski gut' try and keep up Grin
By:
domino14
When: 24 Jul 18 16:27
No, live in London now.
By:
gutfeeling
When: 24 Jul 18 16:35
In my condition hacking is about as good as it gets Delta, keeping up would require work Grin
By:
Deltâ
When: 25 Jul 18 22:43
FAV

in the first!
By:
madhatters
When: 26 Jul 18 13:55
WD Crooser
By:
stridingedge
When: 26 Jul 18 14:03
Hi Hatters hows trix Wink

Do we know who Dom is, I think I was absent the day it came out by the looks of it Sad
By:
Deltâ
When: 26 Jul 18 14:04
Jas' on track seemed to ignore who trained it! Laugh
By:
Deltâ
When: 26 Jul 18 14:04
stridingedge   

Charlotte Kerton
By:
stridingedge
When: 26 Jul 18 14:06
wasn't she done for being a bit dodgy Shocked
By:
stridingedge
When: 26 Jul 18 14:07
and are you pulling my chain Silly
By:
STATSMAN
When: 26 Jul 18 14:08
Jack Daniel's
By:
stridingedge
When: 26 Jul 18 14:09
rode out for jim beam Stats?
By:
madhatters
When: 26 Jul 18 14:10
Always searching Stride Grin

Stats on right lines

Delt knows you got a big chain ? Shocked
By:
STATSMAN
When: 26 Jul 18 14:11
Hic! That's the 1 Happy
By:
stridingedge
When: 26 Jul 18 14:11
only if quanita has spilled the beans Shocked
By:
stridingedge
When: 26 Jul 18 14:13
Hatters will drop you a message when I've looked at Goodwood re MJ over the weekend Wink
By:
madhatters
When: 26 Jul 18 14:15
No probs
Look forward to it
Lost interest in that line after the always trying guru gave up on him Laugh
I can be re-converted
By:
Deltâ
When: 27 Jul 18 16:27
1 of 1
By David Milnes
7:19PM, JUL 26 2018
   
Paul Howling nearly enjoyed a dream return to the training ranks on the North Denes when At Your Service, one of Howling's three runners on the card, was narrowly beaten into second in the opening 6f handicap.

Formerly based in part of Warren Place in Newmarket, after a five year break Howling has returned as a licence holder in a yard just eight miles from headquarters.

After At Your Service had been reeled in late by Deeds Not Words, Howling said: "That was nearly a dream return to training and I thought it was going to be like 1987 when my first runner in my first spell won a televised handicap. That got us a few new owners I can tell you but this fellow has lost nothing in defeat."

On the reasons behind the revival of his training career, he added: "I've been managing horses for a few owners but kept getting asked when I was going to train again. I had a nice offer so we're back in business. I've about 12 in at the moment at what was John Ferguson's yard at Bloomfields. I have a few to buy so hopefully I'll have a few more. "
By:
handtorofe
When: 27 Jul 18 16:41
Going to be hard work unless he can pick up a couple of decent sprinters Delta
By:
Deltâ
When: 27 Jul 18 16:42
dont you get tempted! Shocked
By:
handtorofe
When: 27 Jul 18 16:43
No chance lol
By:
handtorofe
When: 27 Jul 18 16:49
Shaffire chep tonight out of my old mare wigan lane she bred Lathom the super sprint winner
By:
Deltâ
When: 27 Jul 18 16:55
did well to breed Lathom as ended OR50 'ish!
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