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lognob
21 Jul 18 17:08
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Can anyone who agrees with me suggest what we can do to get this removed from betfair it has totally ruined the exchange the robots are clearing all the prices, when ever has there not been prices available on a run in or final furlong almost all horses are priced at 1.01 this is not fair on the genuine punters who have been with betfair from the start WHY have these ROBOTS been allowed on here the idea was for punters to exchange bets with each other not for the big companys to come in and corrupt the site and have it their way
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Report TheFear July 21, 2018 5:20 PM BST
andrew black sold us down the river
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 5:20 PM BST
if it went for them there would be no exchange..it is what it is.
Report mouse muldoon July 21, 2018 5:21 PM BST
Optimus Prime the main culprit.
Report nellie1970 July 21, 2018 5:22 PM BST
i blame them russian bots
Report lognob July 21, 2018 5:22 PM BST
there was not ROBOTS  for yrs willie shafter and it survived and grew to what it is now
Report TheFear July 21, 2018 5:23 PM BST
gruss is a bot really?
Report Barton Bank July 21, 2018 5:23 PM BST
Given Betfair owns some of the bots I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for them to be removed.
Report hulk23 July 21, 2018 5:26 PM BST
frustrating when they deem you important enough to allocate one to track your every move, but as bb says it is what it is ....
Report lognob July 21, 2018 5:27 PM BST
if there was enough support from people they would have to listen i rang today and spoke at length and was told they would listen to the voice of the people i have asked them to put a pole on and see where it goes remove robots yes or no then they would have to react to the vote
Report grey shark July 21, 2018 5:28 PM BST
lognob ......... it is betfair by name only now , nothing like the company that started out nearly 20 years ago .
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 5:29 PM BST
My Maharani         320    0.02         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.02
My Maharani         500    0.01         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.01
My Maharani         150    0.22         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.22
My Maharani         150    0.07         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.07
My Maharani         180    1.00         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    1.00
My Maharani         150    0.28         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.28
My Maharani         190    1.25         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    1.25
My Maharani         300    1.00         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    1.00
My Maharani         500    1.00         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    1.00
My Maharani         200    2.00         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    2.00
My Maharani         660    0.24         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.24
My Maharani         180    0.10         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.10
My Maharani         380    0.10         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.10
My Maharani         250    0.01         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.01
My Maharani         500    0.01         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.01
My Maharani         180    0.17         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.17
My Maharani         370    0.10         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.10
My Maharani         390    0.09         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.09
My Maharani         240    0.19         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.19
My Maharani         570    0.13         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.13
My Maharani         580    0.04         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.04
My Maharani         600    0.18         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    0.18
My Maharani         160    1.79         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:17    21-Jul-18 14:17    1.79

thats a typical example of a horse half a Length down with half a fur to go...if the robot  isnt being triggered by a horse being backed it will only let you have whats suits their % .
Report houseofpain July 21, 2018 5:31 PM BST
Its just harder, if you havn't got the fast pics, It has actually made me do a bit of work this year race reading wise and am enjoying it more, which i know is easy to say when your winning. Only had 5 bets today 2 wins 2 loses and 1 too run,  that last monkey over the jumps is what betfair is all about made for a really good day.
Report ProSniper July 21, 2018 5:32 PM BST
Don't forget it's now "paddy power betfair" Laugh

Next update "paddy power betfair bot" LaughLaugh
Report houseofpain July 21, 2018 5:34 PM BST
You will need a job soon willie.
Report ProSniper July 21, 2018 5:36 PM BST
Shafty to co-host question time with Tommy Robinson

Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 5:41 PM BST
that monkey won hard held lto..no telling whats going thru its mind.
Report Rider July 21, 2018 5:42 PM BST
Its just harder, if you havn't got the fast pics

genius
Report dustybin July 21, 2018 5:42 PM BST
The river dried up and all the fish died
Well done bf
Report houseofpain July 21, 2018 5:44 PM BST

Jul 21, 2018 -- 5:42PM, Rider wrote:


Its just harder, if you havn't got the fast picsgenius


Thx rider

Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 5:45 PM BST
its ok if you play until the last 3f..but then you wont get everything right.
Report houseofpain July 21, 2018 5:47 PM BST
Let me clarify rider, I don't know what but something is different since the flat started this year.
Report dustybin July 21, 2018 5:49 PM BST
probably the collective exodus.
One way traffic, and thats out.
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 5:49 PM BST
i went on a fixed comm rate 2mth ago...i swear from that day the robot was tuned from 100% to 200%..and that isnt being a conspiracy theorist..its fact.
Report hulk23 July 21, 2018 5:51 PM BST
just coincidence william, think you told me about that a while back Wink
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 5:54 PM BST
mite well be.
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 5:55 PM BST
1.01            £6,931       
1.02            £862       
1.03            £802       
1.04            £719       
1.05            £1,199       
1.06            £1,108       
1.07            £203       
1.09            £174       
1.1            £1,879       
1.12            £175       
1.13            £234       
1.14            £37       
1.15            £177       
1.16            £187       
1.17            £88       
1.18            £140       
1.2            £342       
1.21            £727       
1.22            £32       
1.23            £63       
1.24            £161       
1.25            £3       
1.26            £257       
1.29            £250       
1.3            £537       
1.31            £100       
1.32            £8       
1.33            £132       
1.34            £10       
1.35            £200       
1.37            £3       
1.39            £103       
1.4            £15       
1.41            £720       
1.43            £7       
1.44            £13       
1.45            £6       
1.46            £0       
1.47            £5       
1.48            £37       
1.49            £3       
1.5            £55       
1.51            £15       
1.52            £183       
1.53            £12       
1.54            £0       
1.55            £118       
1.56            £623       
1.57            £6       
1.58            £204       
1.59            £103       
1.6            £65       
1.61            £50       
1.64            £17       
1.65            £6       
1.66            £6       
1.67            £3       
1.68            £58       
1.69            £82       
1.7            £6       
1.71            £40       
1.73            £106       
1.8            £841       
1.81            £25       
1.84            £3       
1.86            £20       
1.87            £1       
1.88            £5       
1.91            £14       
1.92            £2       
1.93            £106       
1.94            £14       
1.95            £44       
1.96            £39       
1.97            £13       
1.98            £5       
2            £366   

winner at ripon and was a comfy winner..as bad as you'll see.
Report hulk23 July 21, 2018 5:55 PM BST
mite not be.  very probably isn't.
Report dustybin July 21, 2018 5:58 PM BST
Not too many QA's these days, scared to death Id say.
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 6:02 PM BST
Lay (Bet Against)    Backer's
odds    Backer's
stake   
Payout
Liability
Rampant Lion340.00 £0.20  £68.00
Glorious Player286.66 £3.68  £1,054.90
Trevithick660.00 £0.02  £13.20
£3.90

can still win tho Wink
Report TheFear July 21, 2018 6:11 PM BST
being selective will be the way forward. Get stuck in on races where you're confident/ have a strong opinion. It's track players doing most of the complaining,,,
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 6:12 PM BST
so at home players no difference?
Report dustybin July 21, 2018 6:16 PM BST
Those ft fees must feel heavier by the day
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 6:17 PM BST
fir trees are 8 quid each at b&q.
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 6:19 PM BST
Rare370 £0.10  £37.00
Rare390 £0.09  £35.10
Rare500 £0.07  £35.00
Rare570 £0.13  £74.10

nck down 50yds out Laugh
Report dustybin July 21, 2018 6:19 PM BST
come with dutch elm disease
Report TheFear July 21, 2018 6:20 PM BST
branch out
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 6:20 PM BST
dat arny a fecks elms.
Report dustybin July 21, 2018 6:21 PM BST
wood innit?
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 6:22 PM BST
just elms..hence de title
Report houseofpain July 21, 2018 6:26 PM BST
That track or office today willie.
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 6:33 PM BST
office..only been to track once in 2 mths.
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 6:36 PM BST
Line Of Duty         200    2.00         Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    21-Jul-18 18:31    2.00
Line Of Duty         500    0.01         Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    21-Jul-18 18:31    0.01
Line Of Duty         250    0.01         Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    21-Jul-18 18:31    0.01
Line Of Duty         500    0.01         Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    21-Jul-18 18:31    0.01
Line Of Duty         370    0.10         Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    21-Jul-18 18:31    0.10
Line Of Duty         200    0.27         Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    21-Jul-18 18:31    0.27
Line Of Duty         130    0.14         Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    21-Jul-18 18:31    0.14
Line Of Duty         190    0.10         Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    21-Jul-18 18:31    0.10
Line Of Duty         390    0.09         Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    21-Jul-18 18:31    0.09
Line Of Duty         660    6.21         Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    21-Jul-18 18:31    6.21
Line Of Duty         140    0.32         Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    21-Jul-18 18:31    0.32
Line Of Duty         240    0.19         Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    21-Jul-18 18:31    0.19
Line Of Duty         570    0.13         Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    21-Jul-18 18:31    0.13
Line Of Duty         600    0.18         Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    21-Jul-18 18:31    0.18
Line Of Duty         220    0.24         Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    21-Jul-18 18:31    0.24

Horse Racing > Hayd 21st Jul : 7f Nov Stks    Showing 1 - 3 of 3 Selections
Selection    Odds    Stake(£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/loss(£)
Line Of Duty    499.97    10.00    Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    10.00
Line Of Duty    660.00    10.00    Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    10.00
Line Of Duty    660.00    10.00    Lay    21-Jul-18 18:31    10.00

perfect example...hd down 50yds out..but becos everyone is clicking the winner the robot gives you peanuts or matches your overide price simple becos it upsets the race %.
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 6:36 PM BST
typo..office..only been to track 4 times in 2 mths.
Report houseofpain July 21, 2018 6:39 PM BST
Takes some discipline with them amounts, gl to ya i say.
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 6:40 PM BST
boredom housey..im bored and treading water.
Report mouse muldoon July 21, 2018 6:42 PM BST
Bring some old threads up.
Report houseofpain July 21, 2018 6:45 PM BST
Still that's when it can be at its worse, many a time boredom can kill ya, one ridiculous lay when you know you shouldn't and 3 or 4 races later your looking for bets that ain't there, gl anyway.
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 6:50 PM BST
ty...no mouse..grow up.
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 8:06 PM BST
Lay (Bet Against)    Backer's
odds    Backer's
stake   
Payout
Liability
Takbeer44 £9.00  £396.00
Takbeer46 £1.00  £46.00
Takbeer48 £0.35  £16.80
Takbeer65 £2.04  £132.60
Takbeer70 £0.13  £9.10
Takbeer80 £4.53  £362.40
Takbeer90 £2.36  £212.40
Takbeer95 £2.40  £228.00
Takbeer110 £1.36  £149.60
Takbeer130 £1.55  £201.50
Takbeer140 £0.28  £39.20

2L clear 2 out..then went 7/4 Laugh
Report houseofpain July 21, 2018 8:09 PM BST
big gaps in the markets late on , prices bouncing all over the show.
Report Barton Bank July 21, 2018 8:15 PM BST
In 2 or 3 years time no one will be bothering (NAP).
Report houseofpain July 21, 2018 8:19 PM BST
Don't think it will that long BB, just bots eating each other. Damn shame loved it early years.
Report ProSniper July 21, 2018 8:23 PM BST
In 2 or 3 years time people will be predicting the "death" of IR 2 years down the line (nb)
Report mouse muldoon July 21, 2018 8:26 PM BST
The IR boys will be happy to make £30 a day then. Meanwhile dolmio14 who was once happy to make £30 a day will be well on his way to his second million.
Report Barton Bank July 21, 2018 8:28 PM BST
Maybe PS but there won't be as many people left predicting it.
Report mouse muldoon July 21, 2018 8:30 PM BST
I'm 90% sure that I'll be finnish by then.
Report ProSniper July 21, 2018 8:38 PM BST
Won't get many better 9/1 value shots than that.. Grin
Report handtorofe July 21, 2018 9:19 PM BST
The bots are everywhere I have been playing the golf market most of the week where I am a layer maybe 6/8 times I click on a lay and it disappears only for the price to go bigger and that's when they are not on the screen.
Report Racecourse Regular July 21, 2018 9:29 PM BST
What is this adding to the Betfair bottom line?
Report Racecourse Regular July 21, 2018 9:29 PM BST
What is this adding to the Betfair bottom line?
Report JML July 21, 2018 9:43 PM BST
The bots are everywhere I have been playing the golf market most of the week where I am a layer maybe 6/8 times I click on a lay and it disappears only for the price to go bigger and that's when they are not on the screen.

That's probably because dozens of other people have seen the same TV pictures that you have and have quicker fingers.
Report JML July 21, 2018 9:57 PM BST
The most annoying bot to many  people is the one that places amounts less than £2 so that it doesn't show on the screen.

But if that practise was barred they would just continue with bigger amounts like £3 or £5 which would be worse.
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 10:39 PM BST
im predicting a large % of track players will go kapoot by the end of this yr..racecourse boxes arnt being filled now.
Report smirnoff2therescue July 21, 2018 10:48 PM BST
how many of them lot are payimg the £400 for Bangor Stevie - clearly gona be unsustainable b4 too long wiv exes etc
Report onlooker July 21, 2018 10:57 PM BST
Deltâ    -   You had a customer ...

The OP = 6 Posts in 15 years - when he started this thread
Report Willie Shafter. July 21, 2018 11:04 PM BST
theres a few like that paul...aintree £450..bangor £400...chester £400...some £100 seats arnt being bought lately.
Report roder2 July 22, 2018 11:39 AM BST
Got 3 in the first @ Ripon, from 3 out, 2 out and inside final furlong

Horse Racing > Ripon 21st Jul : 6f Sell Stks    Showing 1 - 3 of 3 Selections
Selection    Odds    Stake(£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/loss(£)
Caramel Curves    *    31.67    50.00    Lay         50.00
Cherry Cola    *    26.69    50.00    Lay         50.00
Sharp And Sharper    *    24.22    33.91    Lay         33.91
*Average odds: On  Off    Back subtotal:    0.00
Lay subtotal:    133.91
Market subtotal:    133.91
Commission @ 9%:    12.05
Net Market Total:    121.86
Report Willie Shafter. July 22, 2018 11:51 AM BST
caramel curves and winner were arguably 50/50 till just inside last...when winner was a nck up i laid caramel..you obv have a crystal ball.


Horse Racing > : 6f Sell Stks > Caramel Curves    Showing  1 - 15 of 15 Bets
Selection        Odds    Stake
(£)    Liability
(£)    Bid type    Placed    Matched (GMT)    Profit/loss
(£)
Caramel Curves         150    0.06         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:21    21-Jul-18 14:21    0.06
Caramel Curves         500    0.01         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:21    21-Jul-18 14:21    0.01
Caramel Curves         180    0.10         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:21    21-Jul-18 14:21    0.10
Caramel Curves         380    0.10         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:21    21-Jul-18 14:21    0.10
Caramel Curves         250    0.01         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:21    21-Jul-18 14:21    0.01
Caramel Curves         500    0.01         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:21    21-Jul-18 14:21    0.01
Caramel Curves         370    0.10         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:21    21-Jul-18 14:21    0.10
Caramel Curves         140    0.19         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:21    21-Jul-18 14:21    0.19
Caramel Curves         280    0.10         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:21    21-Jul-18 14:21    0.10
Caramel Curves         130    0.14         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:21    21-Jul-18 14:21    0.14
Caramel Curves         390    0.09         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:21    21-Jul-18 14:21    0.09
Caramel Curves         140    0.32         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:21    21-Jul-18 14:21    0.32
Caramel Curves         240    0.19         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:21    21-Jul-18 14:21    0.19
Caramel Curves         570    0.13         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:21    21-Jul-18 14:21    0.13
Caramel Curves         200    2.00         Lay    21-Jul-18 14:21    21-Jul-18 14:21    2.00
Report roder2 July 22, 2018 11:56 AM BST
you missed something-that was off a facetime.
Report JetLoneStar July 22, 2018 12:03 PM BST
Out of interest what % of the in running players here are betting in the last few furlongs as opposed to the first few?
Report roder2 July 22, 2018 12:05 PM BST
got a trial, first ok, rest was blurred. how anyone can play off them is beyond me
Report roder2 July 22, 2018 12:34 PM BST
Jetonestar-I start clicking from about 3 out on the flat, the jumps is a different ball game for me
Report JetLoneStar July 22, 2018 1:21 PM BST
Fair play roder, exceptional strike rate, are you solely a layer or or do you back aswell -  exceptional strike rate btw - might have to give laying a try Cool
Report JetLoneStar July 22, 2018 1:21 PM BST
So exceptional I said it twice Laugh
Report roder2 July 22, 2018 1:40 PM BST
Jetlonestar-in the 18 months i've been here it's less than a handful of backs.
Report handtorofe July 23, 2018 12:51 PM BST
JML the prices are about 10 seconds in front of the pictures on the tv lol
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 23, 2024 2:44 PM BST
andrew black sold us down the river
Report freddiewilliams July 23, 2024 4:21 PM BST
I do miss Willie shafter so much
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 23, 2024 4:23 PM BST
he is ear in spirit.
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