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Deptford
23 Jun 18 17:48
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Inept, no idea what to do to change a race, a fooking idiot
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Report casemoney June 23, 2018 5:49 PM BST
Laugh
Report Deptford June 23, 2018 6:05 PM BST
Last 2 rides, official write up should be, held up well off the pace, given no chance
Report Deptford June 23, 2018 6:09 PM BST
Mike Dillon from Laddies once said he was better than Lester, classic comedy gold. like 4 candles sketch
Report impossible123 June 23, 2018 6:19 PM BST
If Moore was world class, the Pope is an atheist.
Report impossible123 June 23, 2018 6:22 PM BST
Anyone remembers his ride on Sir Dancealot in the Stewards Cup last season? It was one of his worst on a prestigious race; heavily backed but supporters knew their fate soon after.
Report nellie1970 June 23, 2018 6:43 PM BST
inept and no idea but still top jock at the meeting yet againLaugh
Report Deptford June 23, 2018 6:51 PM BST
And? ^
Report nellie1970 June 23, 2018 6:52 PM BST
and hes the top jock at the meeting again not bad for a fuuking idiot with no idea
Report casemoney June 23, 2018 6:57 PM BST
Yes he has the Ammo you have to hit the target at some stage
Report impossible123 June 23, 2018 6:58 PM BST
How many rides to winners? What did he win by? Were his rides fancied eg fav, 2nd fav, 3rd fav? Then compare these stats to other jocks eg Dettori, Buick, Doyle, Spencer and Crowley.
Report Deptford June 23, 2018 6:58 PM BST
nellie, you are a complete idiot, fook off
Report nellie1970 June 23, 2018 7:03 PM BST
so how many of his so called  fuuking clueless rides would any of the above jocks mentioned would have won on them
Report Deptford June 23, 2018 7:05 PM BST
Do you think he never gives one a bad ride?
Report nellie1970 June 23, 2018 7:08 PM BST
did i say that?so what horses should have won that he rode this week that did not?
Report nellie1970 June 23, 2018 7:12 PM BST
in my opinion a few of the horses were shorter than they should have been but thats because who trains them.but hey im only a fuuking idiot female so what do i know
Report xmoneyx June 23, 2018 7:12 PM BST
Ryan Moore - leading jockey at #RoyalAscot for the 8th time in 9 years

quids down if you backed him every race Wink
Report Deptford June 23, 2018 7:12 PM BST
Roosevelt, should have made much more use of it, and it is about putting your mount in a position to win, or do better, or change things when it needs to be done, he just sits there and waits
Report impossible123 June 23, 2018 7:14 PM BST
"So what horses should he have won that he rode this week that did not win"

The above is a loaded against the horse and favoured the jockey.

I think a fairer question would have been could Moore have given his mounts a better chance of winning eg better placed to mount a challege rather than stuck right at the back eg Delano Roosevelt and Thomas Hobson, just to name two.
Report Deptford June 23, 2018 7:17 PM BST
nellie, I am sorry for telling you to fook off
Report xmoneyx June 23, 2018 7:19 PM BST
commentators make out your raking it in if you backed Moore, dettori all week Excited
Report nellie1970 June 23, 2018 7:27 PM BST
dont worry deptford i tell blokes to fuuk off all the time.yes i agree thomas hobson was to far back and roosevelt could have had more ue made of him but i thought roosevelt was feeling the ground a little not raced on anything as quick as it was that day.
Report xmoneyx June 23, 2018 7:29 PM BST
last fav - miles back not placing

a right smell to leave Ascot with
Report Deptford June 23, 2018 7:33 PM BST
What annoys me most is the media love in, never ever saying anything, bottom lickers the lot of them
Report granitjack June 23, 2018 7:35 PM BST
If the media pulled him in about it I’d be happy too Deptford....the fact they lick his ass pisses me right off...
Report nellie1970 June 23, 2018 7:38 PM BST
i agree with the two above statements its not like he is media friendly but they lick all the top jocks arses.frightened to fall off the gravy train all of them
Report impossible123 June 23, 2018 7:44 PM BST
Maybe these lot: Clemmie, US Navy Flag, Chelkar, Yucatan, Cliff Of Moher, Could It Be Love, Bond Street, Sioux Nation and Clear Skies. Were these placed to challenge, obtain a better finishing position or win?
Report smirnoff2therescue June 23, 2018 8:16 PM BST
a lot of people on here wud be happy to be only -£850 down after 18yrs tbf ShockedShockedLaughLaugh
Report shoodacoodadidnt June 23, 2018 8:40 PM BST
well you'd have to bet around £6 a day and not many of us smart enough to keep our stakes at that level ;)
Report Andrew in Sweden June 24, 2018 7:59 AM BST
Anyone that backs Delano Roosevelt with hard earned needs to watch videos of his races.

It beat an odds-on stablemate in a maiden who's never won since, nor has Delano in 6 subsequent races. It raced off 110 on Friday and that mark flatters him.

In my opinion, he's one paced (no turn of foot) stays well but needs further (St Leger for example) and if it continues to run at 10f or 12f will never win a group race. The poster that thinks it may be a danger to Saxon Warrior in the Irish Derby (another thread) needs to wake up and smell the coffee Wink

Good luck
Report unclepuncle June 24, 2018 8:41 AM BST
I123 is the biggest pocket talking hypocrite on here.

He's done nothing but slag off Ryan Moore, and Willie Mullins, for the last 3 years and yet he always backs their horses because they are the hot favourite which is the only type of bet he ever has.
Report bodey June 24, 2018 10:37 AM BST
the trouble with moore is he does not give a fook about punters
Report unclepuncle June 24, 2018 11:06 AM BST
Why would/should he?
Report Jack Bauer '24' June 24, 2018 2:26 PM BST
If Moore knows Delano Roosevelt is one-paced and too slow to win group races over 10/12f, why is he holding him up in a poor position off a slow pace? A smart jockey would have him out in front making the running and controlling the pace.

Whether the horse is good enough to win or not is not really relevant. It was a poor ride because he was poorly positioned in a slow run race, as was Thomas Hobson in the final race yesterday.
Report Andrew in Sweden June 24, 2018 6:36 PM BST
A smart jockey would have him out in front making the running and controlling the pace.

A little difficult when the horse lost ground at the start. Even when he starts with the field he doesn't have the pace to race from the front. It stays well, but needs 14f.

RP

Dwelt, shifted left and bumped leaving stalls, held up in last quartet, effort just over 2f out, 5th and still plenty to do when switched left over 1f out, kept on well inside final furlong, never threatened leaders
Report Deptford June 24, 2018 6:41 PM BST
He could have got that horse to the front, it was a slow early pace, but as usual he just sits there and waits to see what happens in front of him, he is totally and utterly inept as to what to do if things need changing during a race
Report betting_masta June 24, 2018 6:43 PM BST
he is a bit of a one-trick pony. luckily he rides some absolute monsters
Report Andrew in Sweden June 24, 2018 7:16 PM BST
Deptford,

Watch the video
Report Johnny_Mustang June 24, 2018 7:23 PM BST
Finest jockey of his generation and if you don’t agree with that then you’re a complete mug.
Report smirnoff2therescue June 24, 2018 7:27 PM BST
Was a tad unlucky as well wiv TH in last race as was just putting it into the race when he was stopped in his tracks briefly losing momentum and realistically any chance of winning - its a risky strategy sitting off the pace as the cards need to fall right for you otherwise you risk the wrath of the armchair jockeys on here - Hughsie was a master at it and on straight track Frank Spencer aint bad at it neither..... as long as they have gone too fast upfront GrinGrinGrin
Report Andrew in Sweden June 24, 2018 7:42 PM BST
Johnny and Smirnoff Grin
Report smirnoff2therescue June 24, 2018 7:48 PM BST
dont get me wrong Andrew - i think he's a moody fooker at times but he knows what he's doing thats for sure WinkWink
Report Andrew in Sweden June 24, 2018 8:00 PM BST
Smirnoff,

Totally agree.

Can you imagine him and AP doing the morning line togther Wink
Report Deptford June 24, 2018 8:07 PM BST
Mustang, you are a clueless koont, are you Richard Birch?
Report Deptford June 24, 2018 8:08 PM BST
Andrew, he didnt try an inch to change anything, as per usual, INEPT
Report Deptford June 24, 2018 8:14 PM BST
Let us just leave it as different opinions, thank you and goodbye
Report Andrew in Sweden June 24, 2018 8:16 PM BST
Deptford

Agree, it's all about opinons anyway. Good luck.
Report Johnny_Mustang June 24, 2018 8:21 PM BST
Agree. It is entirely about opinions and Deptford’s is wrong.
Report Deptford June 24, 2018 8:37 PM BST
Piss off
Report windsor knot June 24, 2018 9:36 PM BST
i suppose you have to think of him as a ' great' jockey only in terms of riding ballydoyle horses ? in which case is he better than murtagh or kinane ? i don't think so .
Report Jack Bauer '24' June 24, 2018 10:11 PM BST
He was slow away and held up because that was always the intention. Coolmore got their tactics wrong there, they had three runners but allowed Dettori to dictate a modest gallop on the second fav. Moore is no better than any of the other top riders. He has just been luckier than most others getting plenty of opportunities for top trainers at the right time when those stables were flying.

If you don't get the breaks at the right time then this game can be very tough. James Doyle almost gave the game up to become a plumber.
Report impossible123 June 24, 2018 10:41 PM BST
Moore is not even good, in my opinion, just lucky to be around present mediocre jockey with the exception of Dettori; he certainly is no Murtagh or Kinane.

The howlers he made repeatedly in last year's Royal Ascot and America were shocking for a reputedly top jockey; he was woeful.
Report differentdrum June 24, 2018 11:20 PM BST
I did ask quite a while ago for an example of a 'brilliant ride' which only the greatest jockey in the world might be capable of but quite surprisingly none has been forthcoming.
Report jedi sophie June 25, 2018 12:35 PM BST
Not the best in the world,never has been,never will be...
And gives sweet **** all back to either the sport or the common punter in terms of interviews,demeanour,time.
Tragic he won top jock again, gave some thoroughly appalling rides over the course of the week.
Report Deptford June 25, 2018 6:13 PM BST
Not just me then,good
Report differentdrum June 27, 2018 12:29 PM BST
Starved of his ability for a couple of days the great man returns at Newmarket tomorrow. Having narrowly missed the predicted treble at Pontefract it wouldn't be any surprise at all if he is setting his sights on a six timer. Anything's possible.
Report asparagus June 27, 2018 1:28 PM BST
As Johnny Mustang says he's clearly the best jockey of his generation and by quite a long way. Stoute  hasn't appointed another stable jockey since Moore left because he knows Moore is easily the best and though he doesn't get him very often these days it's still been worth taking the chance. Even Haggas until this season would put him up whenever possible. He's just decided he doesn't get him often enough so he's using the also excellent James Doyle whenever possible (much more often) now. Between O'Brien, Stoute and Haggas we are talking 3 of the best 4 or 5 stables in the Uk and Ireland but somehow they are wrong and the forums mugs are right. You couldn't make it up.
Sadly we live in a world where people want to knock the people at the top more than ever before so Moore suffers the brunt. It's quite noticeable that he's judged in a totally different way to virtually anybody else by this forum. If he comes 7th on a horse that might have been 5th he gets slaughtered even though it makes virtually no difference to anyone. It's all a bit silly and smacks of mug punters requiring someone else to blame so knock the man at the top.
Report differentdrum June 27, 2018 2:15 PM BST
Just because he rides the best horses doesn't obviously make him the best jockey in the world. If people think that, fine, but it is their opinion, not fact.

You don't have to be a mug punter to take an opposite opinion. That just spanks of someone who has no real confidence in their own opinion and can do no more than offer a cheap, unsubstantiated swipe at whoever disagrees.
Report impossible123 June 27, 2018 3:39 PM BST
Moore has been woeful at Royal Ascot this season and last. A few of his fancied mounts were not even placed to challenge let alone ridden to win; just not acceptable from a "top" jockey.
Report domino14 June 27, 2018 3:45 PM BST
Judging Ryan on Delano is harsh. The horse is one of those that finds a way to get beat. He can be keen and therefore has to be dropped in to settle, but he has no gear change and just plugs on, sadly unless a race is run at a flat out gallop, he will always hit a flat spot when a race quickens and then stay on late as he plugs on past beaten horses. Horses like Delano make fools of you, a strong traveler with no change of gear, but likes to pull hard early, but wouldn't be able to go any quicker if you just gave him his head and said go on then. The only race I would ever like to back Delano in, is an Ebor or a staying handicap where you know they will go flat out and he can just plod on through, sadly his current handicap mark will make that an unlikely option ever, but I suspect he will end up sold for 200K or so at the end of the season to the Aussies.
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