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tyred
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he's had the last laugh imo Crazy
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Report geoff m June 22, 2018 5:50 PM BST
Was it a Persian?
Report acey deucy June 22, 2018 5:51 PM BST
Some Pikey Trainer wasn't it?
Report tyred June 22, 2018 5:53 PM BST
no geoff, it wasn't Persia Punch,

it was a renowned trainer of claimers Crazy
Report acey deucy June 22, 2018 5:54 PM BST
Or claimer of Trainers.Laugh
Report sparrow June 22, 2018 5:55 PM BST
Bill turner.
Report sparrow June 22, 2018 6:03 PM BST
Thursday 29 January 1998

The trainers David Elsworth and Bill Turner were each fined pounds 1,500 by the Jockey Club yesterday after being found guilty of violent and improper conduct. The pair were hauled before the disciplinary committee following two incidents at Epsom in July last year when a long running feud boiled over.

After a six-hour inquiry, the trainers were found to have been in breach of Rule 220 (II). After hearing the judgement Turner said: "I've had 20 years of abuse from him [Elsworth]. He has approached me in the weighing room. How anyone can have the audacity to approach you, start an argument and then report you to the stewards is above me."

Turner said their feud was sparked by an incident when Elsworth was the key figure in Ricky Valance's training operation over 20 years ago.
Report StillLearning June 22, 2018 6:06 PM BST
Tell Laura I Love Her
Report Barton Bank June 22, 2018 6:07 PM BST
Was Bill Turner riding his zebra at the time?
Report onlooker June 22, 2018 6:16 PM BST
The self-same trainer Ricky Vallance - who was 'Warned Off' by the Jockey Club.
Report sparrow June 22, 2018 6:21 PM BST
It was 1971 when Elsworth arrived at Bishops Cannings and made his way to Lynes House. Presumably he knocked on the door and it was probably Lieutenant-Colonel Ricky Vallance who answered. Elsworth brought some horses with him which Vallance was to train while Elsworth rode work.

As Vallance spent a lot of time in The Crown Elsworth found himself playing the part of trainer. It went rather well, with Red Candle winning the 1972 Mackeson Gold Cup and 1973 Hennessy. Vallance held the licence but Elsworth perhaps deserved the credit.

The year 1974 was less successful. An unfortunate episode in which Well Briefed was deemed a non-trier resulted in Vallance temporarily losing his licence and didn't help Elsworth in his application for one. When Vallance got his back, he managed to lose it again, along with his driving licence, twice. What might have been a springboard to a successful training career for Elsworth was, instead, the preface to a spell as a market trader. "Strawberries, ripe strawberries! Shan't be here tomorrow!"

All was well in the end and all these decades later Elsworth is still training. Vallance isn't, having died a long time ago. He prepared for his funeral by falling into an empty grave on his way back home from The Crown but was rescued.
Report acey deucy June 22, 2018 6:23 PM BST
Laugh
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