That's how good Cracksman is

cacksman?

The writing was on the wall last race!

yep overrated to the last, poor field and was beat two furlongs out

It's ALWAYS been on the wall. Beaten in the Derby by very modest horses

still beat the others miles poor race ...

Mudlark

could be a mudlark.

He’ll be far better in the Arc on soft ground mark my words....

not travelling in races...so cant beat the best on the quick ground...Autumn campaign beckons before stud

if you think that was the real cracksman today

Clearly losing interest. Needs hurdles, not headgear

2 miler

similar run to his run at the curragh where people were blaming Smullen

needs softer ground

you must all have got bombs laying it then

Could be right jack..he's a good class grinder. Won't beat a top class horse on good ground longchamp.

Think he has just become a lazy bugger

Mr Tallywagger- sorry to ask a stoopid question, but I am new here. How do you get hurdles onto a horse to replace headgear please?

FD just nudging in the last half furlong with Doyle riding at maximum, and Cracksman was gaining at the line. Essentially outpaced at this trip and going.

Listen just listen Gosden sayed pre race AUTUMN was the time of year for him a huge clue in itself
bye the way I didn't play the race.

Something is hurting him.

Geld him

Cracksman had a hard race at Epsom Gosden didn't want to run him today but the owner insisted.He will be given a break and come back to win the Arc
They might even try him in blinkers or cheekpieces

I don't totally rule that out MJK but I think it's unlikely. Lazy in two derbies. Then win 5 before turning lazy again ?

They've missed on the triumph

Agree with Mick, he had a hard race at Epsom and this race came too soon. Think they would have been better off waiting for The Eclipse.

supreme

But if he had been a champion he wouldn't have had a hard race at Epsom

Gosden reiterated Cracksman has had his mind on the fillies in the earlier race, and not fully concentrating; his next race would be the King George VI & QE stakes.

I do agree, Gosden would not have run him so soon after having a hard race at Epsom, but for his owner.

They come out with any possible excuse when a stallion value is at stake. Everything has been mentioned except UFO in the sky.

Obviously there couldn't possibly be any blame to Saint John.

dont write off those gosden carrotes.

He's 'class' afterwards for his interview with ITV before the race, and if it had won he would have been a superhero. Very hard to take Gosden at face value, he always has a negative about one of his before a race.

I like John but he came out with a very strong comment yesterday that his horse shouldn't be favourite. He maybe shouldn't stray into betting and stick to traing horses.

stray into TALKING TO TV  about betting I mean.

Wouldn't fancy him one bit for an Arc, he needs a long uninterrupted run to get shifting he can't pick up in an instant, big if in the Arc getting that

think you're right duffy. He's like a Levmoss or Ardross but not sure if as good.

patently needs further and lets not forget his father the greatest ive ever seen got lazy in his final 2 races

I don't agree that was his form but he has been overrated. It seems some people need to constantly big-up the Frankel factor.

Last year's 3yo colts were not a great bunch. He was probably the best of a bad lot. Two of the bunch were tailed off today.

Cracksman needed to be shaken up to beat a pacemaker on his seasonal debut and only won last time because De Sousa didn't close off the rail.

He is better than this but no superstar.

Am i the only one to see it. He hit his head on the stalls.

Cracked Skull ?

Unfortunately , I reckon the horse does his own thing, when he wants, and is therefore one to avoid. I really thought he would hose up. Shows what I know!

Ran to 115, definitely not the best he is when he's ran 123 and 126 in the past.

cheekpieces next time. And some kind of protector for the concussion/cracked skull

would blinkers affect his stud value?

If he hit his head and is having stalls issues, then I would expect next time, they will take a ticket and go in last.

@ The Fear

Blinkers may affect his value, but wouldn't be surprised to see a hood on him. Frankel used to work in a hood at home, hasn't affected his value.

cheers, domino.