How to lose a bankroll in 30 bets or less

How come you're not using x% of the bankroll rather than fixed liab? One bad spell of variance is too unforgiving

p.s. I'm so happy to see someone else use snaggy I used to use it a few years ago haha

I track all lay systems with €50 stake on odds below 3.1 and €100 at higher odds. The solid systems never lost half of the bankroll even with such aggressive staking. This system looks like it will be better to back.

still pretendy money?

the search for the holy grail continues. if the laying system doesnt work out use same criteria but then back brilliant stuff Gaze.

betting with matchsticks..

swan vestas

where's my shrubbery?

geooff that's the idea. An average lay system breaks even after 20 bets, this one just goes down and down so it might be another backing grail

geoff, you on his wavelength now

looool, another one won, Presidential, incredible.

one more bet to busto

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protips:

back favourites high
lay favourites low

you mean in running? I've had a couple that drifted to 300 or even 1000 and won.

Horses names containing a human name that's in the top 100 official names book that year with two white socks coming from stalls 1-5 at galloping tracks over less than 1
mile 4f flat turf only at price 3.5 or less

these are lays Gaze

it's the mother of all grails

BUT

just in case after 20 or 30 bets it shows losses just switch it around and it's a grail backing system

simples

I've tried dozens of lay systems, so I can say with 100% confidence this one will be profitable to back. It might be just 5 or 10% roi but still profitable.

But anything above 20% will be grail worthy.

damn, Balnaslow could've done it but he lost to BSP 190.

Holy **** now morning beauty at 168, these two both winning is 1 in 31920.

clown market underestimated them

Yay I did it https://snag.gy/cDu2LX.jpg

Tracking a new grail from now on.

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anyone want a holy grail system for free,just lay the next 6 (1/2 shots).take 20 quid for each horse,the backer needs 5 winners to show a profit.
and if he is lucky enough to get his six winners up ,all you have to do is lay 40 quid a time on his next 6 (1/2 shots) and if the backer gets his second 6 winners(12 in total)lay his next 6 at 80 quid a time,and if he gets his 18 winners on the trot you must be laying my bets

but seriously ,if you really want a holy grail just lay 1/2 shots on football teams playing away from home and your bank manager will be calling you by your first name very soon.

Jun 8, 2018 -- 7:50PM, Gaze733 wrote:

I've tried dozens of lay systems, so I can say with 100% confidence this one will be profitable to back. It might be just 5 or 10% roi but still profitable.

You only have 25 selections on that screenshot mate.

100% confidence?

following systems makes you lazy. just like following tipsters.
as the great Alex Bird once said - 'you have to go for value'.
just my 2c.

someone who hasnt put in many dozens of hours of research to find systems worth following (the 'great' Alex Bird had a rather meagre ROI, his success dependent on high stakes, if i remember right...happy to be corrected)

there are two types of gamblers 1= is a guy who searches for a mathematical system that shows profit and 2 the other is a guy who likes to show profit by skill and judgement.both have the same goal to make profit.We see this situation every day.The bookmaker tries to win using a mathematical system while the punter tries to win by skill judgement and knowledge.
the question is which type of gambler are you?

the big difference is that the mathematical gambler does not care what team or horse wins,while the other gets great joy of being correct because his selection was correct.some gamblers need the buzz of being correct in their decision.

and finally you have a guy who backs horses and teams to win one day and changes to laying the next day.this guy is doomed before he starts,because this guy is trying to burn the candle at both ends and we all know what happens when we attempt that,the candle burns quickly and the owner of the candle usually gets his fingers burned in the end.and ends up with a confused mind.

Fair play for trying though - let's face it everyone has been there at some point in their gambling career. If people didn't try we'd have to shut the exchange down...

pretendy money

Thanks for reminding me, I just found the spreadsheet and I stopped using that system for no reason in 2018. Next pick is Easy Equation in 8.00. Since the lay system is very bad, the horse should run well.

With so many systems I might forget about some holy grails.

Hm, it might only work with forecast favs because most of the horses had early prices below 4.0 in my spreadsheet. Forecast favs never lose.

Praise the lord . Gaze is alive

I'm doing footy now but it's off season so there's nothing good.

How much u gonna win on euro24

11 favs today were below 4.0 early. 5 have won giving a profit of £42 to £10 stakes. 38% roi.

8.00 Tigerten was 2.76  now 2.24
8.40 Naasma   was 3.7   now 3.35

8.40 Naasma 3.7 into 2.8 still beaten.

but you lay favs tiger, did you dodge all the winners?

i lay the ones that shorten,fav or not the fav. Paid out once at 2.44.  5.10 race.Other 7 shorteners lost

Tigerten and Naasma both lost. I only layed Naasma

My mistake, I layed them both ! Beats working for a living

Far too much low grade racing to look at every race so I mostly stick with pattern races, novice and maidens and to a few trainers and owners who I follow. If I don't recognise the name of a favourite in a handicap then I put a line straight through it.

Just shows how we approach things differently Sage , i start from the bottom of the odds ladder and work upwards and if i don't find a bet that fits the criteria by the time i reach single odds i put a line through it , also bets are all low grade races so i don't even consider festival handicaps or any other races at festivals for that matter for as long as i can remember.

Thankfully we're all different otherwise the exchange would struggle , best of luck   

Over 12 years on here and he's still claims seven....

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Best of luck to you Hayden. I just go for the best chance among the Balding 3yos (usually maidens with a couple of runs behind them) unless there is a pattern race and they are showing a profit so far.