have we just seen the worsterer Derby winner in 2000 their

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Harzand ?
North Light ?

must be with that donkey in 2nd

kris kin was a belter

Overated Race been won by some very mediocre horses over the years ..

The first two had ran 15 times between them.Only winning 5

The Derby is NEVER won by a poor horse.

Delta is either clueless or posting poor bait, my guess is for the latter, however.

the following race, the handicap, nearly faster time, highlights poor Derby

as was mentioned on TV earlier today..the strength of the Derby form will be enhanced or otherwise sometime in Oct / Nov after the Arc & Breeders Cup

Worst Derby winner till next year, which will be the worst Derby ever till the year after at. It's amazing, every Derby winner is the worst ever. I'm surprised that the horses can still move forwards.

Last year's winner - now a National Hunt Stallion - will hardly go down in the annals of history.

Unless, of course, he sires a Champion Hurdler, or Gold Cup winner.

Regrettably a Ffos Llas claimer more likely to come the way of WOE's offspring, it won't stop people trying to "buy" the dream though...!

The Ruckers will be pleased with that.

Winner rated only 1 lb  behind Sea the stars can't be that bad then can it

Winner of the Craven.....3rd in the Guineas.......does that make it a rubbish year for 3 year olds?
Maybe the Eclipse will give us some answers.

5th won a recognised Derby trial, and beat those two horses again by further yesterday-palpably didn't stay.
4th was an unbeated 2 yo, and an unbeaten 2000g guineas winner.  Did he stay?  Did he act on the course.  Was he 100%?????
3rd won the Dannte by miles, but didn't stay a mile and a half.
2nd actually holds the form down, but since the trainer thinks he's a Leger horse, he stayed.  That's why he finished second ahead of horses who may well turn out to be better
Winner bolted up in the Craven, ran 3rd in the Guineas, and won convincingly yesterday.

All about opinions I suppose.  We wont know how good or bad they are until they take on older horses. As ever.

daren't run it again ..

more evidence

"worsterer" - than what?

Surely you mean - 'worstisist'

Really - the spellingering on here.