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By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 02 Jun 18 23:44
FFSLaugh

STATS spill I can't find
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 02 Jun 18 23:45
Evening Stats - hope you is well my man LaughLaughLaugh
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 02 Jun 18 23:46
Keswick? Sounds terribly .... well, northern.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 02 Jun 18 23:47
Lovely place mouse had a few days that way last year but aye it does
By:
STATSMAN
When: 02 Jun 18 23:47
I'm very good thanks shears. Hope you are too m8 Wink
By:
STATSMAN
When: 02 Jun 18 23:48
Here's a little pearl I found, especially the bit in bold


Sorry for no explanation, was at Wolverhampton last night and g=can't seem to get forum on phone, just laptop.

I'm personally not a huge gamble but lost £120 in win, and £380 in 4 place, plus £200 ew on track.

£900 for me is as big a bet I can afford to have, so naturally gutted.

Simon was asked to race forwards in the race as the horse is one paced and we thought there would be a lack of pace and the race looked full of 2m horses, so getting first run would help. We felt he was well handicapped and also that this was a very bad race. He had won twice over course and distance. We also booked Simon as we all agreed he was the best amateur available.

Disappointed Simon disobeyed orders. He claimed the horse didn't jump well enough to go forwards and said from his draw he would have had to have gone very wide to go forwards, and thought they were going a decent enough pace so slotted him in. He said he travelled okay and felt 3f out he had a good chance. He said he didn't really pick up but felt the horse wasn't giving him everything. Said step him up to a 1m 6f, put blinkers on and try and race forwards. Bar the blinkers bit what he suggested to do was what he was told to do last night.

I doubt even raced handy, he would have beat the winner, as said on post, it was an unknown quantity and was either gonna hack up or be tailed off, the betting made it clear it was out for the job. Could our rider and other riders in race been got at, quite possibly. No one was happy with the ride, and as he has no real turn of foot, you have to go forwards on him.

We all felt let down from the ride, bollocks done, we move on. Sorry for it not going to plan, but it's frustrating as never even got a run for our money. Had he gone forwards and bombed out I wouldn't have minded so much, but riding him like that gave us no chance and never even gave us a real chance to assess him properly.

There's an extended 1m 5f 0-50 next month at Wolves, and if he drops 3lb in weights (got 3lb drop last run, so every chance will get it again as well beat) he can get in that race off the new rule that horses rated 51 or 52 can get in a 0-50, so all being well we can keep him ticking over at home and go for that race, and get a rider on board who will at least ride to orders.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 02 Jun 18 23:49
Is there a pond there or sumfing?
By:
STATSMAN
When: 02 Jun 18 23:50
Don't get me wrong, some of the stuff is quite an interesting read, but ................... Grin
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 02 Jun 18 23:51
I remember that STATS I was after identity confirmation
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 02 Jun 18 23:51
There's an extended 1m 5f 0-50 next month at Wolves

different class
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 02 Jun 18 23:52
Only 1 lake mouse a bit of trivia you might know
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 02 Jun 18 23:53
lol Stats ya more Columbo than me ..... you can see though why people doubt him.....and his arrogance dont help matters neither SadSad
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 02 Jun 18 23:53
got some nice waters though
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 02 Jun 18 23:54
Indeed
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 02 Jun 18 23:56
Was from an earlier fred when Dom was having a go at acronyms so I countered with Dom In Cumbria, Keswick. He said he was unaware of it, is it somewhere northern?
By:
STATSMAN
When: 02 Jun 18 23:56
Denzil, aye

It shows that even owners and associates have doubts about the game at times as he said the jockey disobeyed the orders and nobody was happy with the ride so natural to wonder why imo.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 02 Jun 18 23:58
It was early days the questionable seeds hadn't been long sewn then Grin
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 02 Jun 18 23:58
Robojocks. Let's make it happen.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 02 Jun 18 23:59
I would agree could it be any worse at least your hold up horses won't lead and vice versaCrazy
By:
STATSMAN
When: 03 Jun 18 00:00
Golden Footsteps is owned by some close friends of mine

TrainerMrs John Harrington (Last 14 days: 6-52, 12%)
OwnerFly Like An Eagle Partnership
Fly Like An Eagle Syndicate until 17 May 2018
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 03 Jun 18 00:00
The members aren't named though
By:
STATSMAN
When: 03 Jun 18 00:01
There's fking loads Happy
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 03 Jun 18 00:01
Exactly, obviously not everything would always go to plan, but they would be preprogrammed with whether they were supposed to lead or be held up and the info would be on the racecards.
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 03 Jun 18 00:01
Pennybridge a must visit if eva going to the Lakes followed by a visit to Cartmel - Gods country for sure LoveLove
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 03 Jun 18 00:02
STATS you must have super google mate
By:
STATSMAN
When: 03 Jun 18 00:02
They're not but how many pies etc etc etc
By:
STATSMAN
When: 03 Jun 18 00:03
I have m8 and it comes in handy at times Happy
By:
STATSMAN
When: 03 Jun 18 00:04
That was a close 2nd when he tipped it up mind
By:
STATSMAN
When: 03 Jun 18 00:05
and it was with Ed Walker
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 03 Jun 18 00:07
Pennybridge a must visit if eva going to the Lakes followed by a visit to Cartmel - Gods country for sure LoveLove

I'll keep it mind went near there on the way to Dalton In Furness zoo many moons ago
By:
STATSMAN
When: 03 Jun 18 00:09
When you're an EPT winner, 3 x final table GUKPT, and a 2 times GPS winner and amassed over £624,000 in live cashes in the last 4 years, please come back and tell me how to play Poker. DM me whatever, I would play either of you anytime, anywhere, £10,000 buy in, winner takes all and I would happily give both your 10K's the Charity.

Grin
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 03 Jun 18 00:12
That could be true or it might not I remember that conversation,still don't know any names
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 03 Jun 18 00:13
i'd forgot it was him that put up the amateur race flop..

624k winnings and lays a cert odds on loser for a few hundred Laugh

wafdsc
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 03 Jun 18 00:23
King Of Dubai will be p1ssing himself no doubt ShockedShockedShocked
By:
STATSMAN
When: 03 Jun 18 00:32
What was this in reply to? Laugh


@Willie

Learn to peak English or don't bother speaking, I don't understand Northern Criminal Gangland language.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 03 Jun 18 00:48
told him to foydc
By:
STATSMAN
When: 03 Jun 18 00:49
To do with his roulette system that he said yesterday, he doesn't have Grin
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 03 Jun 18 01:24
indeed stats..that very one Mischief
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 03 Jun 18 01:53
The geezer is £15k down at Sportsbook? Jeez LaughLaughLaugh
By:
posy
When: 03 Jun 18 08:50
Can't see the point in trying to 'out' domino .His posts are both erudite and informative which is more than most on here are capable of producing and he clearly has at least one contact in the AoB yard.
He doesn't get it right all the time (who does ?) but he was spot on about Saxon and I didn't see any other posters going out on a limb and categorically stating that he wouldn't win.

My only doubt about him is that his posts are too well argued and coherent for what I would expect from an ex professional jockey !
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