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Questions remain over Saxon Warrior's stamina

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By:
lewisham ranger
When: 31 May 18 23:42
domino hasn't got a clue.

he's just ramping.
By:
kavvie
When: 01 Jun 18 00:05
he actually usually has lewisham...
By:
themightymac
When: 01 Jun 18 00:36
Thanks domino.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 01 Jun 18 01:49
Domino keep quiet ffs, loose lips, ships and all that.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 01 Jun 18 01:50
Sorry gentlemen, pretend you haven't heard anything.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 01 Jun 18 01:57
Maybe Burkey can ask his pals on the Ballydoyle owners hub to find out
By:
Kerrygold
When: 01 Jun 18 04:55
Domino14  gets it right almost all the time when he talks about O'Brien horses....
By:
Lampus
When: 01 Jun 18 05:32
LaughLaugh
By:
Kerrygold
When: 01 Jun 18 05:35
Cool SW is v weak on betfair right now
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 01 Jun 18 06:03
meet domino
domino is shrewd
domino has a roulette system
domino has a big cannon
be like domino.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 01 Jun 18 06:06
someone trying to lay £80,000

could be dombo's daddy in law cos he got trillions.
By:
Kerrygold
When: 01 Jun 18 06:29
the word is out Cool
By:
luckyme
When: 01 Jun 18 06:38
WHAT NEWS kERRY.
By:
Kerrygold
When: 01 Jun 18 06:41
i dont know being honest but dom14 def has contacts in O'Brien yard , thats a def. when he talks you should prob listen
By:
luckyme
When: 01 Jun 18 06:44
thanks kerry.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 01 Jun 18 06:52
once he mentioned he had a winning roulette system he went in the spam folder.
By:
deadbrain59
When: 01 Jun 18 09:45
drawn coffin box
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 01 Jun 18 09:48
the omens are against this horse now really.

I think roaring lion will win. if there is something wrong with the fav, then surely he's the most likely to pick up the pieces.
By:
cardifffc
When: 01 Jun 18 11:25
not too far back in his pedigree saxon warrior has dancing rain oaks winner and dr devious derby winner
By:
gutfeeling
When: 01 Jun 18 12:18
some sh@te on 'ere today Grin
By:
deadbrain59
When: 01 Jun 18 12:27
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
kincsem
When: 01 Jun 18 13:36
Suckers for punishment

Deep Impact factor prompts live coverage of Derby in Japan for the first time
https://www.racingpost.com/news/epsom-derby-meeting/deep-impact-factor-prompts-live-coverage-of-derby-in-japan-for-the-first-time/333520
By:
domino14
When: 01 Jun 18 15:29
After that run from Idaho, I am more than happy to lay SW, in my mind, he won't be winning tomorrow. Will be increasing my win lay.
By:
Cherrykino
When: 01 Jun 18 16:51
Why would Idaho influence your decision -he is well exposed.
By:
domino14
When: 01 Jun 18 16:55
His stable is 2 doors away from Saxon Warrior and the horse in between them is Conclusion who was beaten 40L the other day. 12 horses live in the little horse shoe yard known as millionaires corner.
By:
Jack Bauer '24'
When: 01 Jun 18 17:00
Are you suggesting there is some sort of virus or coughing or something of that nature?
By:
kincsem
When: 01 Jun 18 17:01
Epsom Oaks
Galileo, Dubawi, Galileo, Galileo, Galileo
By:
domino14
When: 01 Jun 18 17:02
@Jack

NO comment
By:
Jack Bauer '24'
When: 01 Jun 18 17:04
OK, I'll take that as a yes.
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 01 Jun 18 17:07
Forever Together and sent her immediately, not appearing to wait for Bye Bye Baby. Wayne Lordan always rode the Galileo filly with confidence and whilst he was a good 2L or so off FT when she kicked, Wayne was not in a hurry. Asked to extend with around 300 metres to go, the filly showed a sprite turn of foot as she picked up her companion in a matter of strides and burst 5L clear and was going away from FT in the process.

Why do you believe this fantasist? Laugh
By:
Jack Bauer '24'
When: 01 Jun 18 17:11
He may be genuine and he may not. I am just interested to know what this supposed inside info is.
By:
STATSMAN
When: 01 Jun 18 17:29
I agree with Angela
By:
domino14
When: 01 Jun 18 17:47
@Angela

The gallop bares absolutely nothing on the result, for one they worked 9.5f and in the gallop BBB was held up, secondly she played the sacrificial lamb to the slaughter today. Her fractions for the first mile of the Oaks were very strong, and off the home bend with 3f to run, she had absolutely everything off the bridle and a 4L advantage. Wayne also kept her up the centre, not. Given how fast she went, she done very well to keep galloping to the line, when it looked for all the world she was going to be swallowed up 1.5f out.

So if you want to make accusations about me, that's fine, I wont lose sleep over it, and if you want to make judgements based on a race, which was ridden in a very different manner to the gallop, then be my guest. BBB will not struggle to win a group 1, probably a 10f one on soft ground, the Prix L'Opera maybe.

My right up was not far off, I stated I believed Bye Bye Baby and MW would make there runs 4f out and they did, and said I suspected she would open up on the field and she did. I didn't expect her to make it but she committed early enough. If you read my write up I felt Wild Illusion would be her biggest danger and would test her stamina to the limit, and I stated very clearly, if BBB didn't stay then I could see one of the staying types like FT picking up the pieces, hence why I saved on her on my bet.

I was also very dismissive of I Can Fly who was well beat and was unfancied, despite being backed.

So you want to pick holes on my comments, well that's your choice, but lets look at facts today.

The bets I placed on the Oaks;

£200 BBB @ 7/1 Lost
£50 FT @ 8/1 + £400
£30 Flatterning @ 25/1 lost
£110 WI @ 3.6 Lost

+ £60 from Win Bets

£1000 4 Place BBB @ 2.10 = + £1065
£100 4 place Flattering Lost - £100

£965 profit on 4 place bets


2 Place market

£300 Liability Lay Magic Wand @ 2.68 Won = + £168


So in total + £168, + £965, + £60


Total Profit £1193.00

Feel free to pick holes any time you wish.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 01 Jun 18 17:48
To be fair and I’m probably going to upset a few with this but there’s a big difference between a 12f+ G1 in Japan and some of the races over similar distances we get here.

To put it bluntly...as good as DI was he failed on the Arc and so has several of his sons and daughters. A top class European 12f has just eluded them...for whatever reason. Granted this is one of the first to be trained here and by someone who knows what he’s doing.

On the dam side Maybe was was well beaten off in the Oaks so there is a chance tomorrow might stretch him.

But Classic Form = Classic Form and apart from Roaring LOON I don’t think there’s anything overly high class to beat.
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 01 Jun 18 18:03
Why would she be the sacrificial lamb if she was the best of his horses as you said Laugh
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 01 Jun 18 18:04
I was also very dismissive of I Can Fly who was well beat and was unfancied, despite being backed.


LaughLaughLaugh
By:
domino14
When: 01 Jun 18 18:18
One could ask why did he run Horatio Nelson when his Vet ordered him not to.
By:
impossible123
When: 01 Jun 18 18:22
I think it was evidently clear AOB knew who his main adversary was ie Wild Illusion (on form, at least) thus sending Bye Bye Baby (BBB) to try and stretch her stamina to the limit. And he succeeded, BBB nearly stole the race, and Together Forever outstayed Wild Illusion (WI) at the finish. Also, WI did not have the race run to suit eg behind and sandwiched between AOB's inmates. It was not ideal but made little difference to the end result, I believe.

Forever Together (FT) looked impressive, but how good was WI? FT is 13/8 for the Irish Oaks - very skinny - and 10/1 for the Ribblesdale at Royal Ascot. Will she run though? Several more superior stablemates yet to show their hands eg Happily, September and Magical; Minding won the Oaks but did not run in the Irish equivalent; Even Song won the Ribblesdale but Seventh Heaven triumphed in the Irish and Yorkshire Oaks.
By:
STATSMAN
When: 01 Jun 18 19:07
So you want to pick holes on my comments, well that's your choice, but lets look at facts today.

The bets I placed on the Oaks;

£200 BBB @ 7/1 Lost
£50 FT @ 8/1 + £400
£30 Flatterning @ 25/1 lost
£110 WI @ 3.6 Lost

+ £60 from Win Bets

£1000 4 Place BBB @ 2.10 = + £1065
£100 4 place Flattering Lost - £100

£965 profit on 4 place bets


2 Place market

£300 Liability Lay Magic Wand @ 2.68 Won = + £168


So in total + £168, + £965, + £60


Total Profit £1193.00


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Those aren't facts.

They are your say so. No proof whatsoever [b]
By:
stewarty b
When: 01 Jun 18 19:11
Domino, I have a question for you please. I have lumped on SW at approx even money. Now, without blowing my trumpet I think I'm a half decent reader of the form-book. Do you honestly think I've done my dough in?
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