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16 May 18 16:05
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Report TheCoat May 16, 2018 5:08 PM BST
and Loder
Report tyred May 16, 2018 5:13 PM BST
yeah but Cole is still training today,

what happened, I know trainers lose owners but surely new owners step in and you don't lose your skills,

he still has owners like Fitri Hay who is a billionaire Crazy
Report Happy Valley May 16, 2018 5:17 PM BST
Royal Ascot 1991 was it or perhaps 92
Report Happy Valley May 16, 2018 5:18 PM BST
Sir Pekan was a helluva type for a 2yo
Report acey deucy May 16, 2018 5:18 PM BST
karma innit. Plain
Report ProSniper May 16, 2018 5:19 PM BST
The cavemen. For a long, long time now I've considered him to be operating at the level of G Kelleway.. I can't even remember the last time I backed one of his. If his yard was up for sale it could be flogged at a jumble sale..alongside G Kelleway's
Report 1830 May 16, 2018 5:19 PM BST
Was Dillum one of his ?
Report onlooker May 16, 2018 5:27 PM BST
Yes - 7 Furlong (Good to) Firm ground specialist.
Report tyred May 16, 2018 5:53 PM BST
Paul was Champion Trainer in England 1991 and has won the Champion European Trainers 4 times

that's from his website Shocked
Report stewarts rise May 16, 2018 6:02 PM BST
who remembers when Paul Cole was the king of the 2y olds ?!

Is it his mum?
Report lewisham ranger May 16, 2018 6:12 PM BST
dilum, firm pledge, magic ring. those were the days.
Report tyred May 16, 2018 6:16 PM BST
Culture Vulture

and people remember Generous for The Derby but he was also a good 2y old, won The Dewhurst Crazy
Report lewisham ranger May 16, 2018 6:18 PM BST
aye culture vulture was one of my favourite horses, owned by christopher wright.

seen her race against marling in the coronation stakes, countless times on youtube.
Report trimmer May 16, 2018 6:33 PM BST
Report Andrew in Sweden May 16, 2018 6:37 PM BST
6 Epsom derby winners from the stable Wink
Report tyred May 16, 2018 6:40 PM BST
when Richard Quinn was stable jockey, lots of the 2y olds were automatic favs and lots were winning first time out, then Alan Munro came in and it all went pear shaped !
Report themightymac May 16, 2018 6:57 PM BST
Not a world beater by any means but Step Ahead was a good 2-y-o, about late 70s.

And who can ever forget White Wonder - pure white horse
Report tyred May 16, 2018 7:01 PM BST
or Tosan, totally black.
Report themightymac May 16, 2018 7:09 PM BST
He was also a great trainer of jockeys. He produced 3 Champion Apprentices in Robert Edmondson, David Dineley, and Richard Quinn.

Mark Malham was also another good apprentice he had but he didn`t win the championship. Whatever happened to him?

In fact, whatever happened to the 3 champions? Last I heard Quinn was learning to become a trainer but nothing seems to have materialised.
Report themightymac May 16, 2018 7:13 PM BST
Pass The Peace and Dance Parade were two nice fillies
Report blackbarn May 16, 2018 8:05 PM BST
1991 Coventry Stakes - Dilum, taking turns with Munro to see who could get their heads closer to the turf.
Report blackbarn May 16, 2018 8:10 PM BST
Here's Dilum -
Report tyred May 16, 2018 8:20 PM BST
Magic Ring was around the same time, Royal Ascot winner I believe !
Report Yahoo May 16, 2018 9:14 PM BST
Mid late 8os lots of first time 2yo winners some at very rewarding odds. Many didn't go on as 3yos though.
Report Yahoo May 16, 2018 9:20 PM BST
The great Peter O sullevan remember one of his comms involving a Cole 2yo that always makes me chuckle.
Danski who was touted as Coles 2yo that season (87-88?). Had seconditis
Think it was King George day at Ascot 2yo race for unraceds. and a close finish concerning  Danski and Plaid (P Walwyn)
Danski and Plaid Danski and Plaid theres nothing in it, and they cross the line together Planski and Daid
Report Yahoo May 16, 2018 9:20 PM BST
*best 2y0
Report Yahoo May 16, 2018 9:21 PM BST
Generous was a good 2yo (Dewhurst huge odds) that did go on to make a smart 3yo!!!
Report habin67 May 16, 2018 9:44 PM BST
Was unlucky that principle owner Fahd Salman died in his 40s,didn’t he jock Quinn off just before the Derby and appointed Alan Munro?
Remember him winning about 3 2yr races at Royal Ascot one year.
Report differentdrum May 16, 2018 11:02 PM BST
Unfortunately, 2018 owners don't have such long memories. It's almost a miracle if the likes of Cole and Cumani train any sort of winner these days.
Report Yahoo May 16, 2018 11:30 PM BST
Quinn lost the Salman rides  ultimately because of him being unhappy over a ride he gave Generous I recall.
Dilum was a monster 2yo but was a classic case of a Cole 2yo not training on at 3.
When Berkshire won at Royal Ascot I really thought he might have one to put him back on the map, but it was not to be.
Sarab was one of my favourite PFI horses. A 7f specialist who was not quite as good over a mile.
Report themightymac May 16, 2018 11:46 PM BST
Quinn rode over 2000 winners which is quite an achievement. He still rode for Salman after he lost the ride on Generous. I think it was following a ride in Ireland for Salman, that he lost the ride on Generous, but I can`t remember the name of the horse. He was very unlucky to be 1st jockey to Sir Henry when Cecil was going through arguably his worst spell, but still rode some very good Cecil horses and loyalty to Sir Henry helped Cecil get back in the big time.
Report Movewiththetimes May 17, 2018 12:02 AM BST
Sir Henry Cecil's 2 year old's in 80's would be tough to beat also loved Jack berry's, two legends.
Report tyred May 17, 2018 12:36 PM BST
Ibn Bay was the ride that lost Quinn the Salman rides if memory serves Crazy
Report theres only one best tonic May 17, 2018 12:44 PM BST
Fair Cop another Ascot winning 2yo
Report jamilla14 May 17, 2018 2:39 PM BST
Paul Cole , in the late 70s early 80s was the man to follow.
Report tyred May 17, 2018 2:48 PM BST
he was champion jockey in 91 so maybe that year too !
Report tyred May 17, 2018 2:49 PM BST
champion jockey eh Laugh

champ trainer imo Crazy
Report equine flew May 17, 2018 2:59 PM BST
About 10 years I got told by someone connected to the stable that they had a flying 2yo called Shampagne.  Manged to get about a grand on scattered everywhere.   Horse gets beat 1/2 a length by a David Evans horse the pair 7 lengths clear of everything else.

Shampagne obviously wins his next 2 races and goes on to be rated 104.   The Evans horse never came close to winning again in its further 14 runs.

That's racing !!
Report Happy Valley May 17, 2018 7:00 PM BST
cole's demise had nothing to do with alan munro who soon left for HK, having won many big races for him, nor richard quinn's fault who was very professional
Report tyred May 17, 2018 7:06 PM BST
I know Grin
Report Yahoo May 17, 2018 7:27 PM BST
Ibn Bey corrected tyred. Felt so sorry for Quinny.
Munro was a cocky so and so, believe they didn't get on.
Report tyred May 17, 2018 7:31 PM BST
Munro was black belt innit,

gave Quinn a roundhouse on his way out Crazy
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