anyone else find hoiles unbearable?

You could say the same about Ed.....But I love them both.

no, just think he's a decent bloke and he obviously loves the sport

I think you need to worry about anyone who wears a jumper over a tie.

and all over a M&S T Shirt ...

taking fashion tips from men sat in their vest & pants is obviously de rigueur

Top fella, who would you rather have , Thommo?

Did anyone hear Thommo as the horses were going into the stalls for the 2.10 Yarmouth ....

..... "and there's Harry's Bar just going in"

..... "he was named after a bar called Harrys"

he just wanted a free bellini the next time he's passing

Maybe he is a"nice" guy,lr

I like Richard, I've met him a few times over the years and he is very decent bloke.

I haven't met him but I agree with you slippy, I don't find him smug at all

He's fine by me

He'd be grand if he just called what he was seeing instead of what might happen

Signed .

He's OK as far as I'm concerned. Many years ago he posted on a small racing site, this when he was on TV. Can imagine one or two in that position who wouldn't give their time to something with no financial reward (respect to Gary O'Brien who posted on same site too) - oh and I know he sometimes posts on here so wouldn't want to say anything not nice & have Big Guru point me out to him

So would they all - MJK - at least the often berated 'old School' Dessie still does just that,   in Ireland.

However - Richard Hoiles is a downright decent chap - and probably under some sort of instruction to  try and make it more exciting.... and possibly against his personal wishes, aswell.

To my knowledge ratpack not posted on here since he got the ITV gig.

L.H.F. He posted on here for years under the name of 'ratpack' and he was always willing to engage in conversation with us lot.

I know he posted on here about a Fortnight ago.

Why do they all appear smug when they join the ITV gang?

Yes, I saw that too acey

good guy imo

he posted saying not posting anymore citing too many keyboard warriors firing out personal insults

Yes he did post (as ratpack) a little while ago.

A poster was having a rant about the course commentator on, so RH posted he wasn't even there

He's dreadful and far too up himself to post on here anymore.

LOL

Jolly good show R.H.!

He's an avid follower of "THE WORLD'S GREATEST POSTER!!!" threads.

May 16, 2018 -- 10:21AM, ratpack wrote:

He's dreadful and far too up himself to post on here anymore.

here here

Ratpack dont miss nufink.

I woz gonna write he is reading this threat with an unblinking eye and lo and behold ...

May 16, 2018 -- 10:21AM, ratpack wrote:

He's dreadful and far too up himself to post on here anymore.

Any chance of setting something please. Some posters seem to believe that commentators are being directed to say what might happen instead of just what is happening, and to constantly make reference to the 'favourite' and/or produce a worried tone when it's the 'favourite' who is being pushed and not going well. Is this true? Thanks in advance.

No, Tommo is directed to say what aint never gonna happen.

That a reference (not constant) to the favourite should be made is the only part of that which is true.

reference point

I was going to say Richard H is a thoroughly decent, genuine bloke and a damn good caller but plenty of others, who also have the pleasure of knowing him, have done it for me

May 16, 2018 -- 11:09AM, ratpack wrote:

That a reference (not constant) to the favourite should be made is the only part of that which is true.

Thank You. Most UK commentators seem to give far more than a reference unfortunately, as though every punter is just a favourite betting idiot. Pity commentators have been asked to reference favourites in the first place, a ridiculous directive.

sorry richard I wasn't trying to have a go or anything

he just tex me and said you had him at smug

tbf betfair radio seems a lot worse, or any kind of radio commentary. if your horse isn't up there you won't even get a mention.