stewards

yep after line says Martin!

bolloxed the 4th

Shirely Disqualified!

yep hits the 4th who smashes the 2nd sideways, that has to go

Id say stands

2nd leans over the winner as well as winner leaning in plus right on line

martin is wrong. just before the line. should be thrown out

Very hard to tell whether the interference is before or after the line. If it's before he goes, if not he stays.

very difficult to judge whether the bang with the 2nd happened b4/on/or after line

i say stands..happened as crossed line..didnt effect result.

Interference to the 4th before the line but that's irrelevant. Not sure he interfered with Spirit before the line.

Should be like at the dentists-if in doubt, whip it out!

only won by a pixel, must be in trouble ...

2nd's backend went sideways well before the line by the 4th hitting it

it's not hard geoff it was BEFORE

May 14, 2018 -- 4:50PM, tomhunt wrote:

2nd's backend went sideways well before the line by the 4th hitting it

correct it should go

cigarette paper margin so it should go

only a nose on it so anything possible. Should keep it imo.

no way was it well b4 line..was virtually on the line.

long enough stewards, must be plenty to talk about ...

amended result

wow

always a chance if you only win by 3 centimetres ...

is virtually before or after

virtually = 5 inches before

so before then

Horse Racing > Catt 14th May : 6f Hcap    Showing 1 - 4 of 4 Selections
Selection    Odds    Stake(£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/loss(£)
Meshardal    4.70    5.00    Back    14-May-18 16:33    -5.00
Meshardal    *    72.02    6.10    Lay         6.10
Newstead Abbey    283.52    9.92    Lay    14-May-18 16:41    9.92
Spirit of Wedza    *    2.66    32.00    Back         53.07
*Average odds: On  Off    Back subtotal:    48.07
Lay subtotal:    16.02
Market subtotal:    64.09
Commission @ 4.31%:    2.76
Net Market Total:    61.33

happened last stride but FPP caused 2nd's back end to be clouted...if you win an inch and cause any interference, dont think you can have many complaints at being chucked

i concur with chris dixon..in no way did it cost the 2nd the race.

if you slowed it right down it was 5yds before line..

a horse's stride is roughly 7.5 yds

Where was CHRIS Dixon watching from ?

is that more than 5 inches

The swerve/collision didnt cost the 2nd the race. winner would have won a neck 1/2 lenght without it

If you look at the shadow of the winning post on the grass on the side on ...the end of it finishes about a yard from the winning line - the seconds back end was taken away at least a yard before this on the head on

Not that i think it effected the result...

* at least a yard...should have read about a yard

Any bet on the race geoff ?

not sure how you can be so certain that a horse getting back-end knocked sidewards def didnt cost it a nose...i suspect it didnt but certainly couldnt be certain...fair enough to give benefit of doubt to non-aggressor imo

Duncan - "if you win an inch and cause any interference, dont think you can have many complaints at being chucked".   You absolutely have cause for complaint because that does not represent the rule.   Was there interference, Yes,  Did the winner improved its position - ie would it have finished behind the second.  No, because the winner did not interfere with the second horse.  Simple really.

winner did interfere with 2nd horse by knocking the 4th into it

tomhunt    14 May 18 17:06 
if you slowed it right down it was 5yds before line..

ABSOLUTE BOLLOX..WATCH IT SIDE ON.

don't need to seen it from every angle, stop embarrassing yourself, you're wrong get over it

5YDS FROM THE LINE?  WALOFS

duncan says roughly 7.5yds
tom says 5yds
grayhawk says 1 yard

shafty says 5 inches

1 yard=36 inches.... froydc

They will appeal that result and get it reversed

Or we will need a rule change

OK TOM..IYO IT HAPPENS 5YDS OUT..THEN IT MUST HAVE BEEN A MAXIMUM BET AT 2/1 TO GET THE RACE?

here we go, show us yer bet...shafty we're all laughing at you

SO NO BET?

https://www.racinguk.com/results/172925-catterick-veterans-handicap-5

watch it again..no contact till going over line..5yds ydc

I agree absolutely with dyno, I think it is pretty sure to be reversed.  The problem here, is as we have covered several times that the rules are unclear in the guidance it gives to stewards on consequential (second-hand) interference.

For clarity, if they think that in these circumstances the miscreant should be disqualified, the need to state in the rules, that if in the opinion of the stewards, the interference caused whether directly or indirectly caused the winner to improve his position etc etc etc

what happened you lose the lot on the 2nd, you were so sure it would keep it, virtually on the line you said

don't need to seen it from every angle, stop embarrassing yourself, you're wrong get over it

tom your a clueless gimp.

capital letters, name calling now, next it will be the colour crayons

Willie Shafter.    14 May 18 16:48 
i say stands..happened as crossed line..didnt effect result.

tomhunt    14 May 18 17:35 
what happened you lose the lot on the 2nd, you were so sure it would keep it

now you're making a tit of yourself.

i gave an opinion it would stand..

but if you think they collided 5yds out you need help.

Was nowhere  near 5 yards could be measured in inches but was definitely before the line.

listen i'll spell it out so you don't embarress yourself even more

you are going on about the inteference on the line between 1st and 2nd

it wasn't about that, it was about this:

2nd's backend went sideways well before the line by the 4th hitting it

you really are a dopey coont

5yrds is alot

id say 1/2 - 1 yard and 100% before line and winning distance a pixel few are saying so thought had chance to go

tom get some glasses ydc.

if it kept straight it would have won comfy..it did not effect the result.

Yes Howard:Horse Racing > Catt 14th May : 6f Hcap    Showing 1 - 2 of 2 Selections
Selection    Odds    Stake(£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/loss(£)
Crosse Fire    20.00    2.00    Back    14-May-18 16:41    -2.00
Crosse Fire    5.00    44.00    Lay    14-May-18 16:41    44.00
*Average odds: On  Off    Back subtotal:    -2.00
Lay subtotal:    44.00
Market subtotal:    42.00
Commission @ 4%:    1.68
Net Market Total:    40.32

   
Profit and Loss is shown net of commission.
All times are UKT    
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     unless otherwise stated.


But im not sure what that has to do with the price of fish!

howard    14 May 18 17:46 
Was nowhere  near 5 yards

RacingLuck    14 May 18 17:51 
5yrds is alot

id say 1/2 - 1 yard

looks like all 3 of us are dopey cnnuts.

spot on Willie. Had no bearing on result other than stopping disqualified horse winning further

of course it effected the result, extrasolar hampered the 4th who in turn smashed spirit's hind quarters sideways

what don't you understand about that, you didn't spot it did you

you need a telescope

if you're gonna quote somebody quote everything

howard    Joined: 09 Mar 03
Replies: 6243 14 May 18 16:47 
martin is wrong. just before the line. should be thrown out

shafty also agreed with martin, martin was wrong too

tom..are you saying the winner improved its position? and wouldnt have won without the interference?

it was 2/1 to get the race..that means 66% thort it would stand.

it got bolloxed sideways how do you know if it wouldn't have won, it lost it's stride pattern

people watching it like you and never looked at the 4th interference

watch it again on ruk and tell me it collided 5yds out.

ok tom..you were right i was wrong...did you bet it at 2/1 to get race?

how many times i don't need to....2nd's backend went sideways well before the line by the 4th hitting it

just watched replay defo collided 3f out

jockey on the 4th murdered

rip