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By:
kemo sabe
When: 04 Dec 19 18:35
2PTS lost sunday one point back today , you do the math ,,,
By:
cool_hand_luke
When: 04 Dec 19 18:52
Kemo, you dont sound good mate moaning like a kid. Take it for what it is, an opinion. No one is purchasing, so if it doesn't match your expert view dont read or back every lay selection.
By:
cardenden
When: 04 Dec 19 19:08
Andrew ..please stuck to yr own thread,,,dont be so ignorant ,,infesting kemos thread with this utter shoit,,,and all yr piss pot trolls..,vwd today kemo pal,,,ignore the trolls sabe,,
By:
kemo sabe
When: 04 Dec 19 19:09
not moaning at all , im happy his horse lost , as ive no real interest in that i dont  punt too often in the races involved in   , so no monetary view either way ,

im just pointing out the facts ;  lets not forget it took him months to admit he wasnt punting his tips , and his followers claims ,,  not incidently his claims  he was until the tips started to run big loses happy to put up his results , then it stopped ,  he like glen toby allowed the forum to form the belief he was a huge winner  GLEN TOBY LOST 64K with his bets in 14days and yet was acClaimed as a winner  ,,, AIS was not quite as delusional yet over a few weeks lost 13PTS with his lays ,,, when i pointed this out he wasnt too happy nor indeed were his fans , He stopped posting daily lays and his results , Since the light has fallen on his selections his fans are less keen and are at least loseing less

he wont acknowledge like at the weekend he lost two points ,,, he just goes to the next bet congratulating himself on his odds on winner and forgeting  the lay on the winner of samcros race and his ew 4TH in a 15runner race , with the rather silly i hope you got the Bookie you punted with to get you 4 places ,  im not saying hes doing it deliberatly , but no the less hes doing it ,  HE LOST 2PTS SUNDAY got one back today , with his running loses if all his lays win he will get to break even by midsummer at current rate of posting around one a week ,

one of the reasons i put up the NUTKIN thread was to show the type of non betting thread this was for him ,,  for two yrs he never punted anything ,  yet he accepted his followers did ,  when they started to lose cash he did say sorry ,  but its easy if yr not punting cash and like NUTKIN acorns , the similie was the meer illustration , done in a quite light hearted way ,
By:
cardenden
When: 04 Dec 19 19:12
Ask him to post his lay bet kemo,,,
By:
cardenden
When: 04 Dec 19 19:14
Remember andrew to add the lay ..( that won)  the horse you  asked me to tic tac for y ,,,it must be counted as well,,,
By:
kemo sabe
When: 04 Dec 19 19:15
as to expert views today 1178 people visited a thread written by a squirrel with no tale who punts in acorns ,  i thought it was quite funny ,  so it seems did 1178 others ,  im just trying to show the folks on here not to believe what they think they see


in time nutkin will be a much loved member of the tipping  team on here ,  but really he bets in acorns and they reply to such drivel ,
By:
kemo sabe
When: 04 Dec 19 19:19
there as much chance of him doing that as NUtkin punting on the betfair acorn exchange ,,, he seems quite popular hes going to be a star on here i think esp when i bring on his other friends ,,  im laughing out loud this is just so funny ,   mrs tiggywinkle tips , jeremy fisher tips ,  flopsy mopsy and cotton tail yankees

then mr mcgregor doing greyhound racing as he likes to chase bunnys in peter rabbit ,, the lists endless ,, ACORNS for gods sake ,
By:
kemo sabe
When: 04 Dec 19 19:26
incidently im catching up on stuff since ive been on hols in france , has ais been putting up his running totals or has he just wiped the board clean , ive had issues as you know in that i cant post here when in france ,  has he simply been frit of posting or has he got some of his 13pt defecit back since i flew to toulouse ,, a quick look at the forum shows apart from yr very very selective and if course profitable lays little else going on ,

i assume toby has been shamed after his endless loses to going to another site ,  i was going to say sadly missed like at a funeral but shant ,
By:
MinnieLAI
When: 04 Dec 19 20:06
Currently, and at the time of writing Thursday 5 December their are 6 Horse race meetings in UK and Eire.  Forty-five racecards, and five hundred and thirty eight horses declared, subject to external factors  !!!  That's see what these tipsters on here can produce.  Surely, no mean feat ....
By:
kemo sabe
When: 04 Dec 19 20:24
ive had a serious talk to Nutkin and he like AIs when he loses his followers cash is very contrite , he points out of course its easy to pick horses to lose  , than to win , i have pointed out to him that the owner of this thread seems to struggle with both of those issues , Yet its given him another idea , in the 1.55leic he really liked the chances of the short priced fav CHIRICO VALLIS ,,, but he now thinks he will lay the horse as he points out the second fav Never equalled has mixed it with the best ,frankie de berlis no less if you add to that its getting weight in huge quantities and the grounds not going to help he might have a point

so he suggests to his 1871 followers they lay chirico at the evens he got before , punt never equalled and have a saver on ullyses which in an earlier incarnation for a big stable was ok ,he has also every intention of R/F the two against the fav ,

hes pretty sure the favs going to drift so def poss of a trade 

hes sure this will turn around his fortunes for what was a poor start for this embryo tipsterer

ok hes punting in acorns but im sure yr going to cheer him on
By:
mymumsfinethankyou
When: 04 Dec 19 21:50
30▼      -1     022         GLASGOWCALLING               Kasbaan - 1.45 Ling                 3rd 3/1         -1.00         -£4.00LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 05 Dec 19 08:00
Good morning Guys and Girls from a little chilly München.

Many thanks for the kind comments post lay race, much appreciated. Happy

My last full day at work, at least this year, and i’ll be leaving earlier today to visit a Christmas market with a few of the guys, then off to an airport hotel for an over-night stay as my daughter arrives early. Love

I didn’t get chance to see a video replay of the lay selection last night, but considering it finished 8th and was beaten almost 10L, layers probably didn’t have a lot to be concerned with. It did drift late afternoon from an early morning 15/8 (when I posted) to a SP of 9/2, but I suspect the early odds didn’t truly represent her chances and were actually based on possible potential, the form line with Star Catcher (that appears to have flattered her) and jockey booking. Not that early layers care, and it was the 5th successful lay in a row, in fact 7 of the last 8 have been, and the winner between them (Hell’s Kitchen) was probably the luckiest of the year.

I noticed my nemesis is clutching at straws and making himself look silly (not difficult) by trying to undermine recent selections, but I always like clarity and honesty on my lay threads, hence the one a day selection, no ambiguity whatsoever, and a P/L (that he never posts) so to put the record straight, here is my response.

My Saturday/Sunday thoughts are simply an extension to the lay posts and are exactly that, thoughts of what I feel on the day, normally covering the big race(s) occasionally with a EW and a shortie selections. I’ve had good priced winners and short price losers, pretty much the same as most of us would achieve, but in any event they are never part of the P/L  and never will be. The only time I did a separate PL was from the Arc weekend meeting as a one off scenario.

Last Sunday I selected 3 at Fairyhouse for my Sunday thoughts, a 8/11 winner, possibly a lay of lucky winner (Samcro sprawled) and an EW at 11/1 that finished 4th. The post-race summary was as such : 2.05 Fairyhouse. My EW selection (at 11/1) Glorious Galway finished 4th (15 runners, some bookies paid out on enhanced placing) that was a gallant effort after trying to make all over 29f in soft going. Several mistakes didn’t help him, but he was 6L clear at one stage and only tired before being joined 2 out.

Kemo (being the numpty that he is) jumped at the opportunity to have yet another pop (and on several posts) claiming I lost 2 points as no bookmakers paid out 4th place on the race because there were only 15 runners. Firstly I didn’t win or lose any points for reasons already explained. Secondly, he obviously hasn’t a clue about handicap betting (he doesn't bet Wink) because several bookmakers paid out on 4 places on the race. Sky Bet actually paid out 4th place on a 11 runner race yesterday, and using just one example, looking at the 12.20 Wincanton (another 15 runner handicap) on Oddschecker there are several books paying 1/5 4 places. So if there was a P/L on my last Sunday thoughts, it would actually have been profitable, not the -2 pts he states.

As for stating my lay thread was -13 points at one point (it increases every time he posts, inflation must be rampant in his hometown) this is incorrect, it never has been and i suspect his abacus is missing a few brightly coloured balls. Whilst I accept i had a poor September, my recent run will have eaten into this big time and scanning through the status last night (albeit quickly) it looked like the thread is now back in profit. At the weekend, when this thread finishes and a new one starts from zero, i will post the full status P/L and maybe even update the spreadsheet that Bitbybit kindly created and posted several weeks ago.

I have a relatively easy day so may post another lay selection later.

Good luck and have a nice Thursday all. Happy
By:
cardenden
When: 05 Dec 19 08:20
Keep up the excellent work kemo pal,,everything he has said above all mention y pal,,,yet he says y dont trouble him...i can tell y right now ..y are right under his skin,,,who cares what the weather is like where he is,,,if its raining he can use the window wipers on  his truck,,,
By:
bitbybit
When: 05 Dec 19 09:06
Excellent work my @rse. Stick with the squirrels KS and your other rodent friends (Cardy and MMFTY) Laugh
By:
cardenden
When: 05 Dec 19 09:40
Ur arse,,,andrew says its used goods.,,ExcitedLove
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 05 Dec 19 09:41
Excellent write up as usual Andrew, keep up the Good work.Happy
By:
kemo sabe
When: 05 Dec 19 09:42
when ive time i shall disect ais posts ,,, enough to start with is his saying ,,, sept was poor ,,, ok i might disagree with poor lets try dire .. and then he says his lays have eaten ito the losses ,,, note he dosnt say clears the loses;;  so since september you have all been chasing and in three months you still havnt got to break even ,,  take that in hes been getting you lot to dip into yr pockets for three months to chase 13PTS of real money which he cost you and hes not cleared that yet ,

its obvious the reason hes stopped doing his P/L which he did almost daily once with lots of smilies,   3 months when he still did posts that lost , the key thing is again of course it cost him nothing ,

his 4 place bets is of course bollocks , i asked on here if anyone got 4 places to post on the irish handicap , The silence told volumes, or it could quite easily be that the thread and his tips are irrelavnt as no one punts them nor cares ,

i will dissect his meanderings about horses he doesnt punt and yet is happy to let you lot do so , later

its enough you take in one sentence ;; yes sept was poor but i WILL?? have eaten into the deficit  big time , with his recent run of winners ,,, wipeing out october november with those few words , then MAYBE THE THREAD IS NOW BACK IN PROFIT , you couldnt make it up ,, yesterday was profitable ie if he had a bet it would have been , the fact it was wiped out my his weekends poor choices seems to have been overlooked ,


the good thing is he says he will up date his P/L before he goes to pastures knew where im sure we will continue to enjoy his amusing loss making tripe

its interesting he and his camp followers keep saying they are ignoreing me , seems they cant ,

im sure i shall be going through his results since sept both backs and lays and will be posted way before he gets round to it ,

incidently why are you jumping threads , some of us get lots of innocent pleasure from all the work you put in , but of course we like you dont punt yr selections ,
By:
kemo sabe
When: 05 Dec 19 09:43
cardy nor mumms are not squirrels you can tell by lack of a tail , mind you nutkin just said he doesnt have one either ,
By:
bitbybit
When: 05 Dec 19 09:49
Updated results https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WHfaou2KbsZWqMTpWGDiJY5T_kikH1r4V-p7_lsqMe4/edit#gid=499794971
By:
timberman
When: 05 Dec 19 09:50
Good to hear from you  Andrew as always and look forward to seeing more Saturday thoughts over the coming weeks from a grey Dublin.
That kemo is an evil one who reminds me of yobs hanging at street corners trying to ruin everyone elses lives but blocking him is great so I don't have to read his evil bile.
By:
happysandwich
When: 05 Dec 19 12:56
MinnieLAI 04 Dec 19 20:06   
Currently, and at the time of writing Thursday 5 December their are 6 Horse race meetings in UK and Eire.  Forty-five racecards, and five hundred and thirty eight horses declared, subject to external factors  !!!  That's see what these tipsters on here can produce.  Surely, no mean feat ....



I’m posting these for a bit of fun as Minnie asked but also because in a Handicap race every horse is weighted to have the same chance of winning.
In all races Favs win roughly 40% but I’m curious how many lose in Handicaps, so see how it goes today on a P/L basis.

And thirdly you know who Lays under 5/2 but not 11 in the same day. Laugh

These are my 11 LAY bets for Thursday 5th Dec with current Betfair Lay odds.

Handicap Favourite Lay’s under 5/2

Market Rasen 1.05 Little Rory Mac  3.3
Market Rasen 2.50 Timely Gift  2.86

Leicester 1.20 Colonal Keating  3.5
Leicester 1.55 Chirico Vallis  3.15
Leicester 3.05 Wenceslaus  3.2

Wincanton 2.40 Phoenix Rock  3.25
Wincanton 3.15 Duc Kauto  2.64

Kempton 7.15 Baadirr  2.7
Kempton 7.45 Earth And Sky  2.36

Southwell 4.50 Matahassen  2.28
Southwell 6.30 Rock Sound  3.45
By:
Charlton2005
When: 05 Dec 19 13:15
this is how you do it kemo

1. neatly laid out
2. no unnecessary punctuation
3. odds at time of bet provided
4. course stated
5. lay or back clearly defined
6. timestamped before the start of the race
By:
Charlton2005
When: 05 Dec 19 13:15
gl Happy
By:
isleham
When: 05 Dec 19 13:22
andrew
dont give the idiot(s) oxygen by making reference to their comments
By:
mymumsfinethankyou
When: 05 Dec 19 13:33
hi andrew  PAL,,,IF Y HAVE A WINNING DAY TODAY ,,, IL LET Y KNOW WHERE IVE BURied the nuts  my friend,,,
By:
madhatters
When: 05 Dec 19 13:48
Save your dosh HS
This year you would be up
Last year behind
By:
mymumsfinethankyou
When: 05 Dec 19 13:51
he hasnt had a bet since the arc,,, hes been to busy ,,, making puddings,,,
By:
kemo sabe
When: 05 Dec 19 16:43
NUTKIN is very dissapointed he gives all the daily layers an opdds on shot that was vulnerable , Like Ais he gave reasons  and the horse lost , perhaps no one bothers to read this thread anymore so he is thinking of putting up his other bets on individual  threads , He had a big lay on this ok it was only acorns and not real cash but hey ho it seems thats normal on here Happy is even joining in with lots of selections but of course no cash , is the eagerly awaited new thread going tp be named , the no bet daily lay ;; i personally cant wait for its ist day as like happy i will be selecting and posting a lay in every race , non of which ive any intention of betting on , but it will be fun ,
By:
mymumsfinethankyou
When: 05 Dec 19 16:50

Dec 5, 2019 -- 8:00AM, Andrew.in.Sweden wrote:


Good morning Guys and Girls from a little chilly München.Many thanks for the kind comments post lay race, much appreciated. My last full day at work, at least this year, and i’ll be leaving earlier today to visit a Christmas market with a few of the guys, then off to an airport hotel for an over-night stay as my daughter arrives early. I didn’t get chance to see a video replay of the lay selection last night, but considering it finished 8th and was beaten almost 10L, layers probably didn’t have a lot to be concerned with. It did drift late afternoon from an early morning 15/8 (when I posted) to a SP of 9/2, but I suspect the early odds didn’t truly represent her chances and were actually based on possible potential, the form line with Star Catcher (that appears to have flattered her) and jockey booking. Not that early layers care, and it was the 5th successful lay in a row, in fact 7 of the last 8 have been, and the winner between them (Hell’s Kitchen) was probably the luckiest of the year.I noticed my nemesis is clutching at straws and making himself look silly (not difficult) by trying to undermine recent selections, but I always like clarity and honesty on my lay threads, hence the one a day selection, no ambiguity whatsoever, and a P/L (that he never posts) so to put the record straight, here is my response. My Saturday/Sunday thoughts are simply an extension to the lay posts and are exactly that, thoughts of what I feel on the day, normally covering the big race(s) occasionally with a EW and a shortie selections. I’ve had good priced winners and short price losers, pretty much the same as most of us would achieve, but in any event they are never part of the P/L  and never will be. The only time I did a separate PL was from the Arc weekend meeting as a one off scenario. Last Sunday I selected 3 at Fairyhouse for my Sunday thoughts, a 8/11 winner, possibly a lay of lucky winner (Samcro sprawled) and an EW at 11/1 that finished 4th. The post-race summary was as such : 2.05 Fairyhouse. My EW selection (at 11/1) Glorious Galway finished 4th (15 runners, some bookies paid out on enhanced placing) that was a gallant effort after trying to make all over 29f in soft going. Several mistakes didn’t help him, but he was 6L clear at one stage and only tired before being joined 2 out. Kemo (being the numpty that he is) jumped at the opportunity to have yet another pop (and on several posts) claiming I lost 2 points as no bookmakers paid out 4th place on the race because there were only 15 runners. Firstly I didn’t win or lose any points for reasons already explained. Secondly, he obviously hasn’t a clue about handicap betting (he doesn't bet ) because several bookmakers paid out on 4 places on the race. Sky Bet actually paid out 4th place on a 11 runner race yesterday, and using just one example, looking at the 12.20 Wincanton (another 15 runner handicap) on Oddschecker there are several books paying 1/5 4 places. So if there was a P/L on my last Sunday thoughts, it would actually have been profitable, not the -2 pts he states.As for stating my lay thread was -13 points at one point (it increases every time he posts, inflation must be rampant in his hometown) this is incorrect, it never has been and i suspect his abacus is missing a few brightly coloured balls. Whilst I accept i had a poor September, my recent run will have eaten into this big time and scanning through the status last night (albeit quickly) it looked like the thread is now back in profit. At the weekend, when this thread finishes and a new one starts from zero, i will post the full status P/L and maybe even update the spreadsheet that Bitbybit kindly created and posted several weeks ago. I have a relatively easy day so may post another lay selection later.Good luck and have a nice Thursday all.


pack sake hes still going on about samcro,,,get over it ,,,LaughLaughLaugh

By:
kemo sabe
When: 05 Dec 19 17:05
mumms just had a snippet from Molerat ; will post shortly seem good info  sep thread as of course hes good
By:
Insideshrewdie
When: 05 Dec 19 17:09
Andrew, keep up the good work, judging by your and other posts you still have usual forum muppets trying to douse your fire....keep your head above it....ignore them and do as I have block users
By:
kemo sabe
When: 05 Dec 19 17:15
why dont all you blockers just admit  yr kidding ,,,
By:
23nights
When: 05 Dec 19 17:17

Dec 5, 2019 -- 5:15PM, kemo sabe wrote:



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lol...AIS..has all these potless trolls on a string....

By:
kemo sabe
When: 05 Dec 19 17:18
hes getting like fawlty ,,, i mentioned samcro but i think i got away with it ; im pleased he ignore my posts otherwise his excuses will be as long as war and piece ,, sorry i mentioned the war ,,, and hes in germany ,, i prob didnt get away with it
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 05 Dec 19 17:31
kemo uses ky on cardys sausage...tony gives you a jar with half a LB of cumberlands.
By:
kemo sabe
When: 05 Dec 19 18:32
can ais or happy confirm they are posting the losses generated the last few months and if they will include the desperate attempt to begin backing horses to win which ceased after Samcro fell , sorry i mentioned it again , im sure i got away with it
By:
kemo sabe
When: 05 Dec 19 18:51
im just doing like happy a lay by lay thread on the totality of all the races tomorrow , if its ok for happy its ok for me , there are a lot but while im admitting im doing the lays by just rolling two monopoly dice ,,,after all it saves time and effort and of course on this thread no one bets anyone so no damage done ,  that said such a lot of races almost tempted to do usa racing but will resist that
By:
kemo sabe
When: 05 Dec 19 20:46
Nutkins ten point lay yesterday when he told you the odds on jonjos would drift it did to 2/1 and wdnt get home , it didnt , he has an even stronger one today ,  with a full detailed squirrel nutkin analysis ,

The horse is In the 13.40 at sedgefield its called AGGAMMEMON ,  this like todays 10 acorn lay will drift and like today give you all the chance to green up , This horse which at ist glance looks ok by the form figures but its slow it also wont go on the stuff its going to be racing on tomorrow , the hill will test it getting to the home straight let alone the finishing straight , it wd be better nutkin says getting on a bus for the last 3F hes so sure its not going to win its his 20 acorn star lay of the week ,hes not surprised at the early cash for one of the other runners but unlike others on here hes aware its a lay thead and hes signed the clarity pact with kemo and cardy and mumms , So 20 acorn lay ,

DISCLAIMER... OTHER ACORN RELATED THREADS ARE AVAILABLE
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 05 Dec 19 21:14
got any t/casts lined up for the Sedgy novice hurdle tomorrow kemoLaughLaughLaugh

ps ya lay post was as ambiguous as ever today and ya still cudnt get the winner despite 3 otha picks in a 6 horse race ShockedShockedShocked

#jogonPlainPlainSillySilly
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