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stewarty b
04 Apr 18 12:07
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Night Story in the 5:15 Lingfield. This beast has the form to win this race and I think it may go odds on at the off. Plus the trainer has an impressive 44% strike rake in the last 14 days while the pilot has a 33% strike rate in the same period of time.

I'm not going to pus$y foot about here as it's off into town to get as much 5/4 as I'm comfortable with. g/l to all getting involved in this race.

As for the rest of today's cards....pulverised with trick handicaps. Layers should have good fun imo..
Pause Switch to Standard View Racing is putrid today but I do fancy...
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Report Andrew in Sweden April 5, 2018 2:46 PM BST
WD mouse. I wasn't going to bother, but went for a place (2)........

Horse Racing > Wolv 5th Apr : To Be Placed    Showing 1 - 1 of 1 Selections
Selection    Odds    Stake(£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/loss(£)
Midsummer Knight    *    1.84    63.00    Back         52.68
*Average odds: On  Off    Back subtotal:    52.68
Lay subtotal:    0.00
Market subtotal:    52.68
Commission @ 5.47%:    2.88
Net Market Total:    49.80
Report mouse muldoon April 5, 2018 2:46 PM BST
WD Winners.
Report Andrew in Sweden April 5, 2018 2:47 PM BST
For those that are curious about 5.47% commission, base rate is 6.5% in Sweden Sad
Report the dealer April 5, 2018 2:48 PM BST

Apr 5, 2018 -- 2:44PM, flukes wrote:


Market spoke volumes there Stewy, would you have backed it at 3-1?


it showed the winner was well fancied but FS didnt run like a non trier, it had every chance and was given every chance

Report mouse muldoon April 5, 2018 2:48 PM BST
I couldn't be playing at those rates Andrew.
Report Andrew in Sweden April 5, 2018 2:50 PM BST
I don't have a choice mouse
Report flukes April 5, 2018 2:50 PM BST
Totally agree Dealer, when they are backed like that from the  Burke yard though they invariably seem to collect
Report Andrew in Sweden April 5, 2018 2:51 PM BST
I'm not relocating back to UK for 1.5% Wink
Report the dealer April 5, 2018 2:53 PM BST
they do Flukes, has landed a few on the a/w, he does seem to know the time of day lol. generally though he has been getting a better class of animal last few years, so it shouldnt be a surprise.
Report stewarty b April 5, 2018 3:30 PM BST
flukes 05 Apr 18 14:44 Joined: 16 Jul 10 | Topic/replies: 1,823 | Blogger: flukes's blog
Market spoke volumes there Stewy, would you have backed it at 3-1?



I would have flukes but for lesser stakes. If only I had put FAV on my tickets...
Report stewarty b April 5, 2018 3:33 PM BST
Anyways, unbeknown to me Big D has been giving his good lady any money he's made following my selections and put it in a kitty for a holiday. In the past year he has won just under 4k.



85-95% of those bets were non AW racing. A lesson for all I would think given the criticism I give AW racing.
Report stewarty b April 5, 2018 3:38 PM BST
If only I had put FAV on my tickets...



Believe it or not, if I troll say, 10 shops and I'm fairly sure My selection is going to go off FAV, that's what I put on my tickets as nine out of ten go under the radar due to the fact the staff can't call in with the name of a horse.


Hopefully break the losing run soon but not too long a losing run...
Report Willie Shafter. April 5, 2018 3:39 PM BST
bid d must only bet the winners..and stewy wont post the last 3mths...hi5
Report Willie Shafter. April 5, 2018 3:40 PM BST
big d must only bet the winners..and stewy wont post the last 3mths...hi5
Report the dealer April 5, 2018 3:43 PM BST
Believe it or not, if I troll say, 10 shops and I'm fairly sure My selection is going to go off FAV, that's what I put on my tickets as nine out of ten go under the radar due to the fact the staff can't call in with the name of a horse.


if it doesnt run does your money not go on a horse you have no intention of backing?

how do you get prices on them
Report mouse muldoon April 5, 2018 3:44 PM BST
Can you put FAV on condition it doesn't drift to about 50% bigger than it's early price?
Report s.kenbo April 5, 2018 3:49 PM BST
He's not taking the price. It's impossible to do so.

It's also a complete waste of time going to the shops to bet like that. You're on at SP. A silly way of betting imo. Who wants to place a bet without knowing who/what you're backing?
Report Cork Langer April 5, 2018 3:50 PM BST
Aftertiming is the profitable way forward, removes all need for thought, if's and buts etc etc
Report stewarty b April 5, 2018 3:55 PM BST
if it doesnt run does your money not go on a horse you have no intention of backing?



Correct.
Report mouse muldoon April 5, 2018 4:01 PM BST
So if you end up on one you didn't intend to then you just trade out?
Report stewarty b April 5, 2018 4:02 PM BST
You know I don't trade willie.
Report mouse muldoon April 5, 2018 4:03 PM BST
Could you sell the bet on to someone else then?
Report stewarty b April 5, 2018 4:06 PM BST
That would be like two mice drowning in a pail of milk. (full fat)
Report mouse muldoon April 5, 2018 4:07 PM BST
So you'd be stuck with it?
Report Andrew in Sweden April 5, 2018 4:10 PM BST
Stewart, I can't see any benefit in writing FAV, what if you had done it today and MK had got beat, you would have been as sick as a Parrot. Additionaly, surely the cashier still has to ring a trader anyway if you're placing a few bob on, there is still an 'envisaged' take out ?
Report the dealer April 5, 2018 4:10 PM BST
with all due respect stewarty, i find that astounding that you would bet like that.
Report mouse muldoon April 5, 2018 4:11 PM BST
Every man do his thing a little way different, but this does seem like a most peculiar business model.
Report stewarty b April 5, 2018 4:28 PM BST
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Stewart, I can't see any benefit in writing FAV, what if you had done it today and MK had got beat, you would have been as sick as a Parrot. Additionaly, surely the cashier still has to ring a trader anyway if you're placing a few bob on, there is still an 'envisaged' take out ?




Andrew, I've done it many times. 90 quid on FAV doesn't get picked up. Whereas 150 on a 2/1 chance (named) may be phoned to a trader.




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with all due respect stewarty, i find that astounding that you would bet like that.




The dealer, since I started trolling the city centre only once has the FAV  been a non runner.

Some punters might think backing shorties is easy. Far from it but if I or anybody else can place 100 x £100 singles on even money shots you need 60 of them to win for it to be worthwhile.

Call it an edge if you want but although my past few bets have gone down the amount of times I have beaten or equalled  the price must be about 65%. I should add I do back largish priced horses also.

If I can equal or better the price there is no commission involved.
Report the dealer April 5, 2018 4:34 PM BST
everyone to their own but still find it astounding. i also find it odd that in nearly all the threads you start about going into town, you nearly always comeback saying you got the money on at an average price, never once mentioning any of this unnamed fav stuff.

anyway good luck with it
Report Andrew in Sweden April 5, 2018 4:34 PM BST
Fair enough Stewart, but there is still a risk the horse you really fancy drifts (aka today) but wins.
Report s.kenbo April 5, 2018 4:42 PM BST
There's loads of flip-flopping FAVS, especially in the short runner fields that Stew likes to back in.

There will be many times when you don't even know which horse you're on once the race has started. There's also the joint fav scenario which would end up seeing you lose money.
Report mouse muldoon April 5, 2018 4:45 PM BST
Especially at Wolves where he's at the mercy of the SP manipulation cartel.
Report stewarty b April 5, 2018 4:49 PM BST
spot on steve. Last two backed drifted like the proverbial on here. Don't get me wrong, I've had plenty winners that have drifted (usually when a.n. other#0 is getting backed but as for today for example when I'm on at 5/4 and real money is laying it at 3/1....well, you kind of know how things are going to pan out...
Report stewarty b April 5, 2018 4:50 PM BST
** That was to steve kenbo.
Report GEORGE.B April 5, 2018 4:51 PM BST
So let me get this straight, I've been following Stewy's named selection, when all the while I shudda been writing FAV on me betting slip?

OH FFS, that's me out!
Report s.kenbo April 5, 2018 4:52 PM BST
Surely Mouse isn't Willie?

Mouse is far too articulate imo!
Report GEORGE.B April 5, 2018 4:54 PM BST
Mouse is watchit who in turn is cutter63
Report stewarty b April 5, 2018 4:55 PM BST
The Dealer, Approx 50% of my punting is with BF. 30-35% with the 2% mob and only about 15% with the books. It's usually a walk into town when I fancy one at say evens and think it may go off odds on.

Expenses and value are everything to me....especially commission.
Report stewarty b April 5, 2018 4:57 PM BST
Surely Mouse isn't Willie?



1/3 steve.
Report mouse muldoon April 5, 2018 4:58 PM BST
How did you find out stew?
Report mouse muldoon April 5, 2018 4:59 PM BST
I suppose chavman let the cat out the bag?
Report GEORGE.B April 5, 2018 4:59 PM BST
His Geordie mate told him
Report smirnoff2therescue April 5, 2018 4:59 PM BST
999/1 Steve LaughLaughLaugh
Report Andrew in Sweden April 5, 2018 5:00 PM BST
I doubt they are the same .............. any odds ? Wink
Report Willie Shafter. April 5, 2018 5:04 PM BST
c'mon stew,was it chav via inbox?
Report Cork Langer April 5, 2018 5:04 PM BST
You speak of expenses and value being important to you but freely admit you do not keep records, surely one goes arm in arm with the other for anyone seriously trying to make the game pay, otherwise there is no way you can definitively know for sure where you stand.
Report mouse muldoon April 5, 2018 5:05 PM BST
Hello mouse.
Report stewarty b April 5, 2018 5:08 PM BST
willie boy, I have told you once before and this is the last time.


What is said between chavers and myself by PM, remains between the two of us. (not all, but mostly for betting purposes)
Report mouse muldoon April 5, 2018 5:09 PM BST
and the occasional spit roast
Report stewarty b April 5, 2018 5:10 PM BST
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You speak of expenses and value being important to you but freely admit you do not keep records, surely one goes arm in arm with the other for anyone seriously trying to make the game pay, otherwise there is no way you can definitively know for sure where you stand.



CL, I feel like I'm being interviewed by Piers Morgan on this thread. Let me put it this way. There is nothing I need that I can't afford.
Report stewarty b April 5, 2018 5:19 PM BST
I'm off to prepare dinner for Miss stew. Macaroni with a twist I may add. Dancing Brave Bear looks a shoe in in the first but no bet here.
Report Willie Shafter. April 5, 2018 5:27 PM BST
is stew and miss stew having stew by any chance?
Report Cork Langer April 5, 2018 5:31 PM BST
That will sound like a deflection to most stewarty, I like many others on here have serious reservations about anyone who does not keep records to measure their performance, irrespective of how comfortable they may purport to be, most successful players are usually good housekeepers.
Report chavman April 5, 2018 5:37 PM BST
he changes his undies once a month religiously corky
Report s.kenbo April 5, 2018 5:42 PM BST
I never keep records!!
Report mouse muldoon April 5, 2018 5:42 PM BST
he changes his undies once a month religiously corky

Is there an image of jesus in them?
Report mouse muldoon April 5, 2018 5:51 PM BST
1st winner of the day for Stewy & Dave Yates.


Horse Racing > ChelmC 5th Apr : 1m Nov Stks     Showing 1 - 2 of 2 Selections
Selection     Odds     Stake(£)     Bid type     Placed     Profit/loss(£)
Dancing Brave Bear     *     1.58     40.00     Lay           -23.30
Trump Alexander     *     5.72     40.00     Lay           40.00
*Average odds: On Off     Back subtotal:     0.00
Lay subtotal:     16.70
Market subtotal:     16.70
Commission @ 4.07%:     0.68
Net Market Total:     16.02
Report Cork Langer April 5, 2018 6:04 PM BST
s.kenbo, point proven unequivocally, the case for the prosecution rests M'Lord....!
Report chavman April 5, 2018 6:07 PM BST
a broken calender gets it right once a year mousse
Report s.kenbo April 5, 2018 6:11 PM BST
Guilty as charged, unfortunately!!!
Report mouse muldoon April 5, 2018 11:59 PM BST
I went in corals the other day and wrote FAV on the slip. They called me a line tracker.
Report stewarty b April 6, 2018 11:11 AM BST
Thought I would keep my selections on here until things change... Managed to get a couple of bob on at 15/8 on Larry in the 3:10 Fontwell.

Has some decent form on this ground albeit a 4/11 shot last time out.

On the negative side it gives weight away all round plus Moore is no superstar when getting the leg up.

My instructions to Jamie would be simple....'Lead all the way and if you get caught then so be it'.

'If confused by these instructions quickly look back at some of Peter Scudamore's rides on DVD...'

G/L all for the day.
Report mouse muldoon April 6, 2018 11:14 AM BST
3:10 Font Larry: Lay
Reason: Newsboy
Report stewarty b April 6, 2018 11:15 AM BST
Morning steve. I trust you are well?
Report stewarty b April 6, 2018 11:17 AM BST
btw, who is this Newsboy geezer?
Report mouse muldoon April 6, 2018 11:20 AM BST
He's a well known gentleman of the press Stew, who also appears on RUK.
Report mouse muldoon April 6, 2018 11:21 AM BST
Your last 3 tips have also coincided with his selections which is never considered a good omen.
Report stewarty b April 6, 2018 11:57 AM BST
I wasn't aware of that two scenarios mouse. The last time I heard of Newsboy was back in the mid 80s when he used to tip in the Daily Record.


Being a toff myself I was more into Scotia, Peter O'Sullevan and Bendex in the Daily Express.
Report Andrew in Sweden April 6, 2018 11:59 AM BST
Newsboy = Daily Mirror ?
Report mouse muldoon April 6, 2018 12:01 PM BST
Yes Andrew, Dave Yates who stops more trains than the french railway union.
Report Andrew in Sweden April 6, 2018 12:05 PM BST
OK i left UK in 1984 (not to Sweden) and vaguely remembered he used to tip for the Mirror, i wasn't aware he was David Yates though.
Report mini me April 6, 2018 12:05 PM BST
Never a sensible strategy to lay Mr Moore at Fontywell...

Cool
Report stewarty b April 6, 2018 12:06 PM BST
I may be wrong but wasn't the Mirror and Record in the same stable at one time? (pardon the pun) I know for a fact that at least one of them was in the same stable as The Sporing Life as it (they) had the same betting on their race cards as The Sporting Life.
Report mini me April 6, 2018 12:09 PM BST
Mirror and Sporting Life deffo
Report mouse muldoon April 6, 2018 1:48 PM BST
It is almost the weekend already!

I know right, it feels like yesterday after the Easter bank holiday but just four days later there is another two days off.

And to make things even better there is a who load of racing goodness on Friday to boost your funds.

Our man Newsboy has taken a look at Friday's meetings and provided some tips for you lucky people.

They go off at Fontwell Park, Lingfield Park and Chelmsford City.

Let us know of any winnings and remember please bet responsibly....
FONTWELL PARK

2.05 BE DARING
2.35 LEO LUNA
3.10 LARRY
3.40 CLONDAW WESTIE
4.15 DEEBAJ
4.50 BURGESS DREAM
5.20 DONNYTWOBUCKETS
LINGFIELD PARK

2.20 HELFIRE
2.50 SPRING ROMANCE
3.25 CAYUGA
3.55 ZAC BROWN
4.30 PEPITA
5.05 ZAMJAR (NB)
5.35 ALBIZZIA
CHELMSFORD CITY

6.10 ARLECCHINO’S ARC
6.40 DREAM POINT
7.10 OASIS CHARM
7.45 CANDESTA
8.15 LORD VETINARI
8.45 YOGIYOGIYOGI
9.15 GEETANJALI (NAP)
DOUBLE: GEETANJALI and ZAMJAR
Report s.kenbo April 6, 2018 1:54 PM BST
I'm going to take a wild guess and predict that he gets seven winners. Feel free to challenge my prediction.
Report mouse muldoon April 6, 2018 1:57 PM BST
1/14 yesterday. He ought to do better than that, I'll say 5.
Report equine flew April 6, 2018 2:13 PM BST
Oh bollox, I have backed Hellfire
Report DIFERENT GRAVY 12 April 6, 2018 3:08 PM BST
0/27 a couple of weeks ago!!!
Report mouse muldoon April 6, 2018 3:15 PM BST
WD Stew, WD Dave.
Report stewarty b April 6, 2018 3:18 PM BST
Glad I'm on both results tbh. The Dealer, now you will know why it's sometimes wort the effort to troll. ie I got 15/8 a 6/4 chance.


Seen it again. No stewards here.
Report the dealer April 6, 2018 3:23 PM BST
aye but just check your slips to make sure you didnt write Fav or maybe you will be hoping for a stewards
Report the dealer April 6, 2018 3:24 PM BST
like i said astounding imho anyone would choose to bet like that
Report stewarty b April 6, 2018 3:28 PM BST
As I said earlier it's only happened once to me. I'm usually well up to speed when it concerns the market. ie. if I fancied one in a 4 runner novice chase and my beast was 5/4 and the second FAV is 6/4 I always name it.
Report stewarty b April 6, 2018 3:28 PM BST
As I said earlier it's only happened once to me. I'm usually well up to speed when it concerns the market. ie. if I fancied one in a 4 runner novice chase and my beast was 5/4 and the second FAV is 6/4 I always name it.
Report Andrew in Sweden April 6, 2018 3:31 PM BST
Well done Stewart, stopped the rot Grin
Report stewarty b April 6, 2018 3:34 PM BST
Thanks Andrew. Backing Feily in the next. FAV has decent form but the 10lbs might sway it in my favour. G/L all.
Report stewarty b April 6, 2018 3:43 PM BST
Cry.
Report BIG GURU April 6, 2018 4:26 PM BST
Stewarty,Newsboy is still in the Record (the Mirrors sister paper in Scotland)his selections are beside Gary Owens.
Report stewarty b April 6, 2018 4:31 PM BST
Yes BG but they are only keeping the name on. They are not the originals.
Report mouse muldoon April 6, 2018 4:33 PM BST
The newsboys are like the timelords, Stew.
Report BIG GURU April 6, 2018 4:35 PM BST
Gary Owen is Ian Taylor now,used to be Gordon Broon but Dave Yates is still Newsboy for as long as I can remember
Report daveyworcs April 6, 2018 5:27 PM BST
17.35 ling QASWARAH    ew
Report mini me April 7, 2018 11:08 AM BST
Where is today's good thing please, oh knowledgable ones?

Cool
Report Andrew in Sweden April 7, 2018 11:14 AM BST
Poor racing, but in football Birmingham to beat Burton at 1.8 looks a good thing to me. Gary Monk has rejuvenated the team since he took over recently.
Report chavman April 7, 2018 11:33 AM BST
Mini me it will be unnamed fav in a 4 or 5 runner race.

Stewy going through the form before he nominates the race
Report Willie Shafter. April 7, 2018 11:40 AM BST
going thru big d 1st..
Report conductor April 7, 2018 12:17 PM BST
if backing short prices is your thing that's fair enough. but bowson fred 2.05 Kempton at bigger prices looks rock solid eachway imo. good luck everyone as always.
Report mini me April 7, 2018 12:21 PM BST
Good draw too!
Report Willie Shafter. April 7, 2018 2:45 PM BST
8th

hd6
Bowson Fred
68-10

wd
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