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Night Story in the 5:15 Lingfield. This beast has the form to win this race and I think it may go odds on at the off. Plus the trainer has an impressive 44% strike rake in the last 14 days while the pilot has a 33% strike rate in the same period of time.
I'm not going to pus$y foot about here as it's off into town to get as much 5/4 as I'm comfortable with. g/l to all getting involved in this race.
As for the rest of today's cards....pulverised with trick handicaps. Layers should have good fun imo..
I'm not going to pus$y foot about here as it's off into town to get as much 5/4 as I'm comfortable with. g/l to all getting involved in this race.
As for the rest of today's cards....pulverised with trick handicaps. Layers should have good fun imo..
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WD mouse. I wasn't going to bother, but went for a place (2)........
Horse Racing > Wolv 5th Apr : To Be Placed Showing 1 - 1 of 1 Selections
Selection Odds Stake(£) Bid type Placed Profit/loss(£)
Midsummer Knight * 1.84 63.00 Back 52.68
*Average odds: On Off Back subtotal: 52.68
Lay subtotal: 0.00
Market subtotal: 52.68
Commission @ 5.47%: 2.88
Net Market Total: 49.80
Horse Racing > Wolv 5th Apr : To Be Placed Showing 1 - 1 of 1 Selections
Selection Odds Stake(£) Bid type Placed Profit/loss(£)
Midsummer Knight * 1.84 63.00 Back 52.68
*Average odds: On Off Back subtotal: 52.68
Lay subtotal: 0.00
Market subtotal: 52.68
Commission @ 5.47%: 2.88
Net Market Total: 49.80
For those that are curious about 5.47% commission, base rate is 6.5% in Sweden 
Apr 5, 2018 -- 2:44PM, flukes wrote:
Market spoke volumes there Stewy, would you have backed it at 3-1?
it showed the winner was well fancied but FS didnt run like a non trier, it had every chance and was given every chance
Totally agree Dealer, when they are backed like that from the Burke yard though they invariably seem to collect
they do Flukes, has landed a few on the a/w, he does seem to know the time of day lol. generally though he has been getting a better class of animal last few years, so it shouldnt be a surprise.
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Market spoke volumes there Stewy, would you have backed it at 3-1?
I would have flukes but for lesser stakes. If only I had put FAV on my tickets...
Market spoke volumes there Stewy, would you have backed it at 3-1?
I would have flukes but for lesser stakes. If only I had put FAV on my tickets...
Anyways, unbeknown to me Big D has been giving his good lady any money he's made following my selections and put it in a kitty for a holiday. In the past year he has won just under 4k.
85-95% of those bets were non AW racing. A lesson for all I would think given the criticism I give AW racing.
85-95% of those bets were non AW racing. A lesson for all I would think given the criticism I give AW racing.
If only I had put FAV on my tickets...
Believe it or not, if I troll say, 10 shops and I'm fairly sure My selection is going to go off FAV, that's what I put on my tickets as nine out of ten go under the radar due to the fact the staff can't call in with the name of a horse.
Hopefully break the losing run soon but not too long a losing run...
Believe it or not, if I troll say, 10 shops and I'm fairly sure My selection is going to go off FAV, that's what I put on my tickets as nine out of ten go under the radar due to the fact the staff can't call in with the name of a horse.
Hopefully break the losing run soon but not too long a losing run...
bid d must only bet the winners..and stewy wont post the last 3mths...hi5
big d must only bet the winners..and stewy wont post the last 3mths...hi5
Believe it or not, if I troll say, 10 shops and I'm fairly sure My selection is going to go off FAV, that's what I put on my tickets as nine out of ten go under the radar due to the fact the staff can't call in with the name of a horse.
if it doesnt run does your money not go on a horse you have no intention of backing?
how do you get prices on them
if it doesnt run does your money not go on a horse you have no intention of backing?
how do you get prices on them
Can you put FAV on condition it doesn't drift to about 50% bigger than it's early price?
He's not taking the price. It's impossible to do so.
It's also a complete waste of time going to the shops to bet like that. You're on at SP. A silly way of betting imo. Who wants to place a bet without knowing who/what you're backing?
It's also a complete waste of time going to the shops to bet like that. You're on at SP. A silly way of betting imo. Who wants to place a bet without knowing who/what you're backing?
Aftertiming is the profitable way forward, removes all need for thought, if's and buts etc etc
if it doesnt run does your money not go on a horse you have no intention of backing?
Correct.
Correct.
So if you end up on one you didn't intend to then you just trade out?
That would be like two mice drowning in a pail of milk. (full fat)
Stewart, I can't see any benefit in writing FAV, what if you had done it today and MK had got beat, you would have been as sick as a Parrot. Additionaly, surely the cashier still has to ring a trader anyway if you're placing a few bob on, there is still an 'envisaged' take out ?
with all due respect stewarty, i find that astounding that you would bet like that.
Every man do his thing a little way different, but this does seem like a most peculiar business model.
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Stewart, I can't see any benefit in writing FAV, what if you had done it today and MK had got beat, you would have been as sick as a Parrot. Additionaly, surely the cashier still has to ring a trader anyway if you're placing a few bob on, there is still an 'envisaged' take out ?
Andrew, I've done it many times. 90 quid on FAV doesn't get picked up. Whereas 150 on a 2/1 chance (named) may be phoned to a trader.
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with all due respect stewarty, i find that astounding that you would bet like that.
The dealer, since I started trolling the city centre only once has the FAV been a non runner.
Some punters might think backing shorties is easy. Far from it but if I or anybody else can place 100 x £100 singles on even money shots you need 60 of them to win for it to be worthwhile.
Call it an edge if you want but although my past few bets have gone down the amount of times I have beaten or equalled the price must be about 65%. I should add I do back largish priced horses also.
If I can equal or better the price there is no commission involved.
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Stewart, I can't see any benefit in writing FAV, what if you had done it today and MK had got beat, you would have been as sick as a Parrot. Additionaly, surely the cashier still has to ring a trader anyway if you're placing a few bob on, there is still an 'envisaged' take out ?
Andrew, I've done it many times. 90 quid on FAV doesn't get picked up. Whereas 150 on a 2/1 chance (named) may be phoned to a trader.
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with all due respect stewarty, i find that astounding that you would bet like that.
The dealer, since I started trolling the city centre only once has the FAV been a non runner.
Some punters might think backing shorties is easy. Far from it but if I or anybody else can place 100 x £100 singles on even money shots you need 60 of them to win for it to be worthwhile.
Call it an edge if you want but although my past few bets have gone down the amount of times I have beaten or equalled the price must be about 65%. I should add I do back largish priced horses also.
If I can equal or better the price there is no commission involved.
everyone to their own but still find it astounding. i also find it odd that in nearly all the threads you start about going into town, you nearly always comeback saying you got the money on at an average price, never once mentioning any of this unnamed fav stuff.
anyway good luck with it
anyway good luck with it
Fair enough Stewart, but there is still a risk the horse you really fancy drifts (aka today) but wins.
There's loads of flip-flopping FAVS, especially in the short runner fields that Stew likes to back in.
There will be many times when you don't even know which horse you're on once the race has started. There's also the joint fav scenario which would end up seeing you lose money.
There will be many times when you don't even know which horse you're on once the race has started. There's also the joint fav scenario which would end up seeing you lose money.
Especially at Wolves where he's at the mercy of the SP manipulation cartel.
spot on steve. Last two backed drifted like the proverbial on here. Don't get me wrong, I've had plenty winners that have drifted (usually when a.n. other#0 is getting backed but as for today for example when I'm on at 5/4 and real money is laying it at 3/1....well, you kind of know how things are going to pan out...
So let me get this straight, I've been following Stewy's named selection, when all the while I shudda been writing FAV on me betting slip?
OH FFS, that's me out!
OH FFS, that's me out!
Surely Mouse isn't Willie?
Mouse is far too articulate imo!
Mouse is far too articulate imo!
The Dealer, Approx 50% of my punting is with BF. 30-35% with the 2% mob and only about 15% with the books. It's usually a walk into town when I fancy one at say evens and think it may go off odds on.
Expenses and value are everything to me....especially commission.
Expenses and value are everything to me....especially commission.
I doubt they are the same .............. any odds ? 
You speak of expenses and value being important to you but freely admit you do not keep records, surely one goes arm in arm with the other for anyone seriously trying to make the game pay, otherwise there is no way you can definitively know for sure where you stand.
willie boy, I have told you once before and this is the last time.
What is said between chavers and myself by PM, remains between the two of us. (not all, but mostly for betting purposes)
What is said between chavers and myself by PM, remains between the two of us. (not all, but mostly for betting purposes)
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You speak of expenses and value being important to you but freely admit you do not keep records, surely one goes arm in arm with the other for anyone seriously trying to make the game pay, otherwise there is no way you can definitively know for sure where you stand.
CL, I feel like I'm being interviewed by Piers Morgan on this thread. Let me put it this way. There is nothing I need that I can't afford.
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You speak of expenses and value being important to you but freely admit you do not keep records, surely one goes arm in arm with the other for anyone seriously trying to make the game pay, otherwise there is no way you can definitively know for sure where you stand.
CL, I feel like I'm being interviewed by Piers Morgan on this thread. Let me put it this way. There is nothing I need that I can't afford.
I'm off to prepare dinner for Miss stew. Macaroni with a twist I may add. Dancing Brave Bear looks a shoe in in the first but no bet here.
That will sound like a deflection to most stewarty, I like many others on here have serious reservations about anyone who does not keep records to measure their performance, irrespective of how comfortable they may purport to be, most successful players are usually good housekeepers.
he changes his undies once a month religiously corky
Is there an image of jesus in them?
Is there an image of jesus in them?
1st winner of the day for Stewy & Dave Yates.
Horse Racing > ChelmC 5th Apr : 1m Nov Stks Showing 1 - 2 of 2 Selections
Selection Odds Stake(£) Bid type Placed Profit/loss(£)
Dancing Brave Bear * 1.58 40.00 Lay -23.30
Trump Alexander * 5.72 40.00 Lay 40.00
*Average odds: On Off Back subtotal: 0.00
Lay subtotal: 16.70
Market subtotal: 16.70
Commission @ 4.07%: 0.68
Net Market Total: 16.02
Horse Racing > ChelmC 5th Apr : 1m Nov Stks Showing 1 - 2 of 2 Selections
Selection Odds Stake(£) Bid type Placed Profit/loss(£)
Dancing Brave Bear * 1.58 40.00 Lay -23.30
Trump Alexander * 5.72 40.00 Lay 40.00
*Average odds: On Off Back subtotal: 0.00
Lay subtotal: 16.70
Market subtotal: 16.70
Commission @ 4.07%: 0.68
Net Market Total: 16.02
s.kenbo, point proven unequivocally, the case for the prosecution rests M'Lord....!
I went in corals the other day and wrote FAV on the slip. They called me a line tracker.
Thought I would keep my selections on here until things change... Managed to get a couple of bob on at 15/8 on Larry in the 3:10 Fontwell.
Has some decent form on this ground albeit a 4/11 shot last time out.
On the negative side it gives weight away all round plus Moore is no superstar when getting the leg up.
My instructions to Jamie would be simple....'Lead all the way and if you get caught then so be it'.
'If confused by these instructions quickly look back at some of Peter Scudamore's rides on DVD...'
G/L all for the day.
Has some decent form on this ground albeit a 4/11 shot last time out.
On the negative side it gives weight away all round plus Moore is no superstar when getting the leg up.
My instructions to Jamie would be simple....'Lead all the way and if you get caught then so be it'.
'If confused by these instructions quickly look back at some of Peter Scudamore's rides on DVD...'
G/L all for the day.
He's a well known gentleman of the press Stew, who also appears on RUK.
Your last 3 tips have also coincided with his selections which is never considered a good omen.
I wasn't aware of that two scenarios mouse. The last time I heard of Newsboy was back in the mid 80s when he used to tip in the Daily Record.
Being a toff myself I was more into Scotia, Peter O'Sullevan and Bendex in the Daily Express.
Being a toff myself I was more into Scotia, Peter O'Sullevan and Bendex in the Daily Express.
Yes Andrew, Dave Yates who stops more trains than the french railway union.
OK i left UK in 1984 (not to Sweden) and vaguely remembered he used to tip for the Mirror, i wasn't aware he was David Yates though.
Never a sensible strategy to lay Mr Moore at Fontywell...
I may be wrong but wasn't the Mirror and Record in the same stable at one time? (pardon the pun) I know for a fact that at least one of them was in the same stable as The Sporing Life as it (they) had the same betting on their race cards as The Sporting Life.
It is almost the weekend already!
I know right, it feels like yesterday after the Easter bank holiday but just four days later there is another two days off.
And to make things even better there is a who load of racing goodness on Friday to boost your funds.
Our man Newsboy has taken a look at Friday's meetings and provided some tips for you lucky people.
They go off at Fontwell Park, Lingfield Park and Chelmsford City.
Let us know of any winnings and remember please bet responsibly....
FONTWELL PARK
2.05 BE DARING
2.35 LEO LUNA
3.10 LARRY
3.40 CLONDAW WESTIE
4.15 DEEBAJ
4.50 BURGESS DREAM
5.20 DONNYTWOBUCKETS
LINGFIELD PARK
2.20 HELFIRE
2.50 SPRING ROMANCE
3.25 CAYUGA
3.55 ZAC BROWN
4.30 PEPITA
5.05 ZAMJAR (NB)
5.35 ALBIZZIA
CHELMSFORD CITY
6.10 ARLECCHINO’S ARC
6.40 DREAM POINT
7.10 OASIS CHARM
7.45 CANDESTA
8.15 LORD VETINARI
8.45 YOGIYOGIYOGI
9.15 GEETANJALI (NAP)
DOUBLE: GEETANJALI and ZAMJAR
I know right, it feels like yesterday after the Easter bank holiday but just four days later there is another two days off.
And to make things even better there is a who load of racing goodness on Friday to boost your funds.
Our man Newsboy has taken a look at Friday's meetings and provided some tips for you lucky people.
They go off at Fontwell Park, Lingfield Park and Chelmsford City.
Let us know of any winnings and remember please bet responsibly....
FONTWELL PARK
2.05 BE DARING
2.35 LEO LUNA
3.10 LARRY
3.40 CLONDAW WESTIE
4.15 DEEBAJ
4.50 BURGESS DREAM
5.20 DONNYTWOBUCKETS
LINGFIELD PARK
2.20 HELFIRE
2.50 SPRING ROMANCE
3.25 CAYUGA
3.55 ZAC BROWN
4.30 PEPITA
5.05 ZAMJAR (NB)
5.35 ALBIZZIA
CHELMSFORD CITY
6.10 ARLECCHINO’S ARC
6.40 DREAM POINT
7.10 OASIS CHARM
7.45 CANDESTA
8.15 LORD VETINARI
8.45 YOGIYOGIYOGI
9.15 GEETANJALI (NAP)
DOUBLE: GEETANJALI and ZAMJAR
I'm going to take a wild guess and predict that he gets seven winners. Feel free to challenge my prediction.
1/14 yesterday. He ought to do better than that, I'll say 5.
Glad I'm on both results tbh. The Dealer, now you will know why it's sometimes wort the effort to troll. ie I got 15/8 a 6/4 chance.
Seen it again. No stewards here.
Seen it again. No stewards here.
aye but just check your slips to make sure you didnt write Fav or maybe you will be hoping for a stewards
like i said astounding imho anyone would choose to bet like that
As I said earlier it's only happened once to me. I'm usually well up to speed when it concerns the market. ie. if I fancied one in a 4 runner novice chase and my beast was 5/4 and the second FAV is 6/4 I always name it.
As I said earlier it's only happened once to me. I'm usually well up to speed when it concerns the market. ie. if I fancied one in a 4 runner novice chase and my beast was 5/4 and the second FAV is 6/4 I always name it.
Thanks Andrew. Backing Feily in the next. FAV has decent form but the 10lbs might sway it in my favour. G/L all.
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Stewarty,Newsboy is still in the Record (the Mirrors sister paper in Scotland)his selections are beside Gary Owens.
Yes BG but they are only keeping the name on. They are not the originals.
Gary Owen is Ian Taylor now,used to be Gordon Broon but Dave Yates is still Newsboy for as long as I can remember
Where is today's good thing please, oh knowledgable ones?
Poor racing, but in football Birmingham to beat Burton at 1.8 looks a good thing to me. Gary Monk has rejuvenated the team since he took over recently.
Mini me it will be unnamed fav in a 4 or 5 runner race.
Stewy going through the form before he nominates the race
Stewy going through the form before he nominates the race
if backing short prices is your thing that's fair enough. but bowson fred 2.05 Kempton at bigger prices looks rock solid eachway imo. good luck everyone as always.
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