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The valve will be OK, it will be a split diaphragm if indeed it is that.
It's around £90 to buy on The boiler will have to come off the wall to replace it. But a cheaper way Is to add another expansion vessel maybe underneath the boiler, if there's room. |
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thanks Dr Crippen and koikeeper, I have seen the expansion tank at the back of the boiler and the valve at the top, not sure whether it has a cap on it though, Dr Crippen, will it do any damage short term continually adding water to the system to move gauge from 0 to 1 bar when it's cold?
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He's not a real Dr imo
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That's what the blow off is for
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No wonder there is a skill shortage in UK,its not a service it needs it's past that stage its a brake down, call out a local indy guy and let him do his thing, don't buy anew unit the Worcester bosch is a decent boiler and all parts readily available,local indy guy, will give you a quote have the right card to do the job and supply and fit some new bits, reckon it sounds like fan/diaphram there is a vacuum valve and some other wee doophery bits and bobs but reckon it's worth repairing and get a local indy dude, bigger firm will recommend renewal but that's prob not a best idea, them Worcester bosch is OK imo.fans do chuck it in emm after a million unserviced hours
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It should have a cap on it SL, the same as on a car tyre.
If there is water in the valve, this is a good indication that the diaphragm has a puncture. If not, it probably just wants some air pumping in, or the valve is leaking air. This is the first thing an engineer should address on the information you've given. Just a few pumps could probably fix it. If the diaphragm has gone in the pressure tank then it will have to be replaced. Of course they can charge you a lot more for changing the pressure tank, which always makes that favourite - lol. |
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will it do any damage short term continually adding water to the system to move gauge from 0 to 1 bar when it's cold?
No. |
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Just looked Dr Crippen, took off cap of expansion tank and when I pressed top of valve, water indeed did come out, put a few pumps of air in anyway. Looks like it's what you said, thanks for the advice, at least I know I have a bit more to go on when I call the plumber.
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The chances are he won't replace like for like, too much of a job, boiler off the wall etc, like I said before, easier to add another one.
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message for koi/willie or Dr Crippen, sorry to keep digging this thread up but think I have established it's a dodggy diaphragm needs replacing, external expansion vessel is looking favourite, still trying to convince a plumber to get round, think they are running scared, just a couple of important questions, I know Dr Crippen has partially answered one: If I keep topping up the pressure by refilling with water, everytime I have had the heating on where is that water going? and am I better just leaving it at 0 when it is cold (as it goes up to 2 anyway when heating comes on)
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I answered this one, the blow off.. A copper overflow pipe outside
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Thanks Koi, would you keep topping up or leave it at 0?
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when cold I mean
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SL, I have had the exact same problem for the last 2 and half years, my expansion tank has perished, i've had the boiler 17 years so i'm going to get myself a brand new worcester when it eventually packs in. Fully expected that to be this winter when i switched the rads on in october but it's still going strong and i still keep topping it up, have had no problems at all other than that.
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Cheers JJmbe, how often do you top it up though? Thinking of moving anyway, so don't want to splash out on a new boiler, prefer to just keep it going.
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Just top it up enough to fire the boiler up, you might get away with half a bar, bearing in mind that the pressure will rise when it gets hot, if it gets up to around 3 bar it will blow off.
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koi, boiler fires up even when on 0 that's why I asked top it up or leave it?
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If it fires up leave it
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Date Joined: 13 Jun 12 Add contact | Send message 26 Jan 20 14:10Joined: 13 Jun 12 | Topic/replies: 8,974 | Blogger: StillLearning's blog Just looked Dr Crippen, took off cap of expansion tank and when I pressed top of valve, water indeed did come out, put a few pumps of air in anyway. Looks like it's what you said, thanks for the advice, at least I know I have a bit more to go on when I call the plumber. Personally SL I wouldn't let a plumber near my boiler. It would have to be a gas safe heating engineer. You may get a gas safe plumber nowadays so it's possible they might have paid the dough to get the certificate. My nephew is gas safe and has to pay over a grand every three years to go through a practical and written test. The one thing you don't want is any carbon monoxide leaking but most have the alarm which I check every fortnight. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norrie_McCathie |
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I usually just leave it and it fires up ok, occasionally once a fortnight or so i put a little bit of water in.
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The mrs just said sometimes it can be a couple of months, the boiler will tell you it wont fire up.
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No probs SL but you'd be surprised just how long a period some people leave it between services. My boiler is just over 2 years old and I've had it serviced once. I was told by my heating engineer to leave it for two years to get it serviced because it's fairly new.
He also told me that the most I would pay is if the circuit board went faulty. |
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Are you sure he was qualified..
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I'm open to your views Koi.
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Never had my boiler serviced in 17 years, a valve of something similar went after about 7 years, off hand think i spent about £150 , so i guess i've been lucky and and well overdue a replacement when it finally packs up.
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koikeeper, Dr Crippen or WS or anyone else with previous plumbing experience.
Have you ever fitted a new pressure gauge on a Worcester Bosch Greenstar Junior 24i? Is it something I could do myself, given the step by step instructions? |
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When my boiler doesn't fire up its normally because I've stopped out too long and had too much ale, she's normally alright next day though and breakfast as normal.
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