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kerrieg
12 Mar 18 14:32
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looking to lay first 2/3 in most of the races at Cheltenham anyone point me in right direction of how they would stake this and is it also worth laying the same horses in place market?
Any help appreciated
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Report sageform March 12, 2018 2:30 PM GMT
If you have not done it before, Cheltenham is not a good meeting to start in. In theory, if you can lay the first 3 in the market with only a small loss, go for it. You will be paying out most times but if an outsider wins, you clean up.
Report Diff-rent March 12, 2018 2:32 PM GMT
W Mullins last 8 runners have gained 7 wins. So I wouldn't be rushing to lay anything he has running .
Report geoff m March 12, 2018 5:03 PM GMT
using a dutching calculator if you wish to clear a set amount should the lays get beat
Report mouse muldoon March 12, 2018 5:06 PM GMT
For a bit of interest I shall be laying the selections of the man they call Newsboy.
Report ooO{Alpha Centauri}Ooo March 12, 2018 5:08 PM GMT
Just lay Getabird tomorrow and quit the rest of the week.
Report kerrieg March 12, 2018 6:16 PM GMT
Was thinking the 3 races tomorrow with short ones in to lay them alone or maybe  first 2 in betting and place market , with ground getting heavier maybe a chance of one  or two of them favs coming unstuck
Report cricketnut2 March 12, 2018 6:49 PM GMT
Odds on at Cheltenham, is good for laying, even if they all win you can't lose much, if you get 2 or 3 beat your quids in profit. And of course all the hype will continue right up until the race begins, meaning punters will continue to back them.
Report RothmanMike March 12, 2018 8:26 PM GMT
All depends on your Bank and how much you are looking to win.
Report Willie Shafter. March 12, 2018 8:59 PM GMT
kerrie with respect..i dont think gambling is for you.
Report know all March 12, 2018 9:41 PM GMT
Heavy ground everyone knows all the outsiders win so if your new to the game you will clean up Grin
Report mouse muldoon March 12, 2018 9:44 PM GMT
And don't forget a massive buy of distances.
Report deadbrain59 March 12, 2018 10:17 PM GMT
don't bother layers are maggots
Report gpz6316 March 12, 2018 10:25 PM GMT
read the piece on freddie williams in rp yesterday now theres a layer ! . you give the impression that you dont know much . i would advise running a proven bot ie software
Report gpz6316 March 12, 2018 10:38 PM GMT
i suspect youd be a lamb to slaughter if youre starting out . there will be a lot liquidity and you might get lucky , but . do you know of over-rounds a staple of the layer? id stick to laying one or two u think will get beat and look into how to make a book before u jump into the deep end
Report gpz6316 March 12, 2018 10:40 PM GMT
willieshafter is a layer so id try to pump him if i were you
Report Willie Shafter. March 12, 2018 10:57 PM GMT
only lino.
Report gpz6316 March 12, 2018 11:18 PM GMT
only lino but he went to newcastle on the basis he had to pay 1400 for his pitch . so hes your man
Report gpz6316 March 12, 2018 11:46 PM GMT
i,ve never layed , ever . but i think mullins is in for a bad day , the vibes are weak for getabird . petit mouchiour will improve and footpads  still gotta beat san calvados , faugheen is likely gone ( in terms of the highest level ) . there will be a mountain of money for those . if i was laying id have a go at them
Report betting_masta March 13, 2018 2:17 AM GMT
as a general rule:

don't lay odds-on horses

getabird is a decent value lay tomorrow at 15/8
other two are coo star sivola and de plotting shed both at 5/1. very weak favourites
Report betting_masta March 13, 2018 2:23 AM GMT
don't lay odds-on at cheltenham that is^

some very crude calculations, the following % is in terms of value in laying the following horses
getabird 14.7% value
coo star sivola 6.7% value
de plotting shed 6.7% value

you get a lot more value in backing i find but i am not experienced in laying I repeat this is very crude but i think you'll make profit laying those two at 5/1

in general, these races are complete cr*p shoots. you've basically got 17 horses with you and 1 against you in the 2:50. you'd have to be very unlucky to lose there. you still need to be a very brave or a very rich man to do it. GL
Report sageform March 13, 2018 7:44 AM GMT
Without layers on exchanges there would be no backers either! I can't see much difference, both involve backing your opinion/research with money. If you fancy a particular horse then back it. If you think that a horse can't win and you don't have any strong feelings about what else might win, lay it.
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