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1. AK can make you poor , no pair flop , turn , river
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Nothing special or dangerous about AK. Any starting hand can make you poor. Failure to connect well with the comm cards brings bluffing into play.
As a Professional Poker player, AK is an overrated hand as it's only A high, but it only makes a bad player poor. If you can't get away from AK on a flop, with no A or K on it, then you shouldn't be playing. Also too many people raise too much with AK, and a lot of people call 3 or 4 bets, or even Shoves with AK, and that is another sign of a poor player.
Turn away from poker, or you will flop into the river. No charge for this invaluable advice!
Possibly the most boring, unexciting game ever invested. Complete yawn fest
Whilst I wouldn't be as dismissive as that, I did find it a strange statement from a pro player. I agree that the hand is sometimes over played, the state of the table opposition, stack sizes, blind sizes etc mean calling all ins with the hand is definitely a correct call. Towards the end of MTT's the hand goes up in value as shorter stacks are shoving with virtually any Ace.
You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
excellent advice
You never count your money
When you're sittin' at the table
very bad advice, ducy?
Know when to fold 'em
excellent advice
You never count your money
When you're sittin' at the table
very bad advice, ducy?
You try to ban the AK
I got ten of them stashed
With a case of hand grenades
Body Count by Body Count on Body Count. I don't think they're talking about a starting hand in poker mind. Off the top of my head I can only think of one other occurrence of band, song, album having the same title and that is: Motörhead by Motörhead on Motörhead. Over to chit chat I think....
I got ten of them stashed
With a case of hand grenades
Body Count by Body Count on Body Count. I don't think they're talking about a starting hand in poker mind. Off the top of my head I can only think of one other occurrence of band, song, album having the same title and that is: Motörhead by Motörhead on Motörhead. Over to chit chat I think....
Is this post really about horse racing advice, or simply simple and idle minds expressing?
The best advice l can give is
play real people you can get a read
no internet games, gl
play real people you can get a read
no internet games, gl
AK is behind so many hands, the only way you would call an all in with it, is when the aggressor has a short stack.
AK pre has to hit, you're behind any pair, in a flip with most other A, smaller kicker.
Very few pro's will put tournament on the line with it. It's one of those hands when shoving with it is far more acceptable than calling with it.
Give me 88 - QQ and I'll happily be called by AK all day long.
AK pre has to hit, you're behind any pair, in a flip with most other A, smaller kicker.
Very few pro's will put tournament on the line with it. It's one of those hands when shoving with it is far more acceptable than calling with it.
Give me 88 - QQ and I'll happily be called by AK all day long.
Without wishing to be confrontational, you're not "flipping" with another ace smaller kicker, you're a strong fav and while maths will tell you you'll lose a percentage of the time, it's certainly not a 50/50 flip.
No you're not technically flipping agreed, but whilst you are in front, if they hit their second card, you're pretty much screwed.
That Phillips hand is a classic example of poor players;
1 - He limped, never limp with AK - 2 or 3x for pot value, you can always fold the flop.
2 - When the 2nd player raised, he has four options, shove, raise, call or pass. For the size of the raise, you shouldn't pass, but re-raising him is dangerous, either shove to put the player on the spot, or call are the sensible options.
3 - When the guy 4 bets his raise, get out the pot, unless you're willing to go all in, pass. He stupidly calls.
4 - He didn't connect on flop, but even if he did, he should have checked. Betting shows weakness, and the other player picks up on that going all in.
5 - Phillips should have been pot committed and called, he put too much to throw AK away, if he wasn't prepared to call the all in, he should have never led out.
That Phillips hand is a classic example of poor players;
1 - He limped, never limp with AK - 2 or 3x for pot value, you can always fold the flop.
2 - When the 2nd player raised, he has four options, shove, raise, call or pass. For the size of the raise, you shouldn't pass, but re-raising him is dangerous, either shove to put the player on the spot, or call are the sensible options.
3 - When the guy 4 bets his raise, get out the pot, unless you're willing to go all in, pass. He stupidly calls.
4 - He didn't connect on flop, but even if he did, he should have checked. Betting shows weakness, and the other player picks up on that going all in.
5 - Phillips should have been pot committed and called, he put too much to throw AK away, if he wasn't prepared to call the all in, he should have never led out.
I always thought that Ace smaller kicker is the hand you're praying that your opponent has.
No you're not technically flipping agreed, but whilst you are in front, if they hit their second card, you're pretty much screwed.
if they hit and you don't your pretty much screwed-You could say that about any hand-
if they hit and you don't your pretty much screwed-You could say that about any hand-
its 70/30 with AK v Ax
and nearly a coin flip with AK v pp
with AK you are only in bad shape against 2 hands pre-flop
with say 8s potentially you are in terrible shape against a higher pp
but it all depends on stack depths, opposition, position, number of players at table, number of players in the hand, who is the aggressor etc
certainly if you are deep stacked and you miss a flop it shouldn't be too hard to lay it down
even if you hit top pair you shouldn't go broke with 1 pair deep stacked
short stacked = looser play
and nearly a coin flip with AK v pp
with AK you are only in bad shape against 2 hands pre-flop
with say 8s potentially you are in terrible shape against a higher pp
but it all depends on stack depths, opposition, position, number of players at table, number of players in the hand, who is the aggressor etc
certainly if you are deep stacked and you miss a flop it shouldn't be too hard to lay it down
even if you hit top pair you shouldn't go broke with 1 pair deep stacked
short stacked = looser play
domino14 • March 1, 2018 5:17 PM GMT
No you're not technically flipping agreed, but whilst you are in front, if they hit their second card, you're pretty much screwed.
do you mean AK v A9 on A72 flop
AK in front
and A9 guy sucks out with a 9 on turn or river??
its just bad luck for AK and the AK guy will win more in the long run
if the AK guy is a good player he should milk for value and get suspicious if he raised, especially on multiple streets
No you're not technically flipping agreed, but whilst you are in front, if they hit their second card, you're pretty much screwed.
do you mean AK v A9 on A72 flop
AK in front
and A9 guy sucks out with a 9 on turn or river??
its just bad luck for AK and the AK guy will win more in the long run
if the AK guy is a good player he should milk for value and get suspicious if he raised, especially on multiple streets
KOD
When you're an EPT winner, 3 x final table GUKPT, and a 2 times GPS winner and amassed over £624,000 in live cashes in the last 4 years, please come back and tell me how to play Poker. DM me whatever, I would play either of you anytime, anywhere, £10,000 buy in, winner takes all and I would happily give both your 10K's the Charity.
When you're an EPT winner, 3 x final table GUKPT, and a 2 times GPS winner and amassed over £624,000 in live cashes in the last 4 years, please come back and tell me how to play Poker. DM me whatever, I would play either of you anytime, anywhere, £10,000 buy in, winner takes all and I would happily give both your 10K's the Charity.
KOD
When you're an EPT winner, 3 x final table GUKPT, and a 2 times GPS winner and amassed over £624,000 in live cashes in the last 4 years, please come back and tell me how to play Poker. DM me whatever, I would play either of you anytime, anywhere, £10,000 buy in, winner takes all and I would happily give both your 10K's the Charity.
When you're an EPT winner, 3 x final table GUKPT, and a 2 times GPS winner and amassed over £624,000 in live cashes in the last 4 years, please come back and tell me how to play Poker. DM me whatever, I would play either of you anytime, anywhere, £10,000 buy in, winner takes all and I would happily give both your 10K's the Charity.
domino, I knew you were right
you only have to google AK poker an see the trouble it can get you in
you only have to google AK poker an see the trouble it can get you in
He only won $12K for his EPT win so it wasn't such as big a deal as he's trying to make out.
Looking at his record he may have won hundreds of thousands but after entry fees the net figure could
well be negative.After travel and hotel expenses it's a big negative.
Looking at his record he may have won hundreds of thousands but after entry fees the net figure could
well be negative.After travel and hotel expenses it's a big negative.
jml that applies to most poker players unfortunately.Going back a few years it was different, you could win yourself a wsop package on bf worth around $15000 on top of that perks off bf when you get there so basically freerolling for 2 weeks. most poker site had free packages for high raking players
king of Dubai are you the old Dubai millennium who played on here in the old days? if you are think you would be lol at domino14 challenge for heads up. And domino if he is I would withdrw that challenge pretty quickly
Let's have a look at the facts. We've got a well established poker player who's cashed out more than half a million quid in live tournaments. Then we've got a kid who sits in his bedroom grinding out enough play to earn a few quid from rake backs each week/month.
It can't get anymore David Vs Goliath than that. I hope you've got a decent catapult, Koddy.
It can't get anymore David Vs Goliath than that. I hope you've got a decent catapult, Koddy.
This thread is from about 2004. Bloke A says something, bloke B disses him, bloke A says "heads up table".
S.Kenbo that is why I asked the question is KOD Dubai millennium in another life, I have allways wondered, he probably isn't,just my brain getting bored lol
hant played poker for about 9 years but back in the day in multis AK was a stack loser early part of tournys when everyone was holding 100bbs plus but end tournys 20 bb and less it was a monster
@JML
Try £165,000 for the EPT, was 3200 euro buy in, 192,000 Euro win.
Stick to selling pocket mirrors and selling them at Woolworths, oh hang on .....
Try £165,000 for the EPT, was 3200 euro buy in, 192,000 Euro win.
Stick to selling pocket mirrors and selling them at Woolworths, oh hang on .....
domino did you play on here pre 2006, or was you mainly live player
deejay. I very much doubt Koddy is a player anyone has ever heard of.
He is a legend of the game, but unfortunately it's all in his own mind!
He's probably not even the best player in is own house!!
He is a legend of the game, but unfortunately it's all in his own mind!
He's probably not even the best player in is own house!!
are ok,thought he mite be a guy called dave shallow,used to specialise in 10k hu allso won 100ks live, obviously not him,im new back on the forum from around 10 years ago so havnt a clue who is who, used to know all the poker lads
No his name is Dai. Which ironically is what tends to happen to him at the poker table!
@deejay
I generally only play live. The only times I play online is on Grosvenor or Poker Stars, in the Satellites for the GUKPT or GPS main events, as you can often win a seat for £55/£110 and the standard is poor. A lot of the Grosvenor comps now have a day 1 online as well.
I wouldn't play online comps or cash as the standard of play is poor, and the beats are unreal. In a £1100 comp live, the standard is normally decent, yes you will get some odd plays but generally it's easy to keep out of trouble. For the £1000 online comps, the problem is there are like 50p - £2 sats and there are so many of them in 4-5 legs that bad players can easy sat into them meaning you've no real idea of who is playing against you. In a live casino, you often know the majority of your opposition and how they play on the UK circuit. I've been playing professionally 5 years.
I generally only play live. The only times I play online is on Grosvenor or Poker Stars, in the Satellites for the GUKPT or GPS main events, as you can often win a seat for £55/£110 and the standard is poor. A lot of the Grosvenor comps now have a day 1 online as well.
I wouldn't play online comps or cash as the standard of play is poor, and the beats are unreal. In a £1100 comp live, the standard is normally decent, yes you will get some odd plays but generally it's easy to keep out of trouble. For the £1000 online comps, the problem is there are like 50p - £2 sats and there are so many of them in 4-5 legs that bad players can easy sat into them meaning you've no real idea of who is playing against you. In a live casino, you often know the majority of your opposition and how they play on the UK circuit. I've been playing professionally 5 years.
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