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1. AK can make you poor , no pair flop , turn , river

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By:
ProSniper
When: 01 Mar 18 14:38
Nothing special or dangerous about AK. Any starting hand can make you poor. Failure to connect well with the comm cards brings bluffing into play.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Mar 18 14:40
true Cool
By:
domino14
When: 01 Mar 18 15:17
As a Professional Poker player, AK is an overrated hand as it's only A high, but it only makes a bad player poor. If you can't get away from AK on a flop, with no A or K on it, then you shouldn't be playing. Also too many people raise too much with AK, and a lot of people call 3 or 4 bets, or even Shoves with AK, and that is another sign of a poor player.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Mar 18 15:20
no flop drop
By:
AllinR1
When: 01 Mar 18 15:21
Go Allin, even with 72 off
By:
Slicer
When: 01 Mar 18 15:30
Turn away from poker, or you will flop into the river. No charge for this invaluable advice!
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Mar 18 15:47
drown Excited
By:
Deltâ
When: 01 Mar 18 15:49
snap
By:
equine flew
When: 01 Mar 18 15:57
Possibly the most boring, unexciting game ever invested.  Complete yawn fest
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Mar 18 16:05
I said exactly that AK can make you poor
By:
Nonaynever
When: 01 Mar 18 16:09
Whilst I wouldn't be as dismissive as that, I did find it a strange statement from a pro player. I agree that the hand is sometimes over played, the state of the table opposition, stack sizes, blind sizes etc mean calling all ins with the hand is definitely a correct call. Towards the end of MTT's the hand goes up in value as shorter stacks are shoving with virtually any Ace.
By:
dave1357
When: 01 Mar 18 16:19
You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em

excellent advice


You never count your money
When you're sittin' at the table

very bad advice, ducy?
By:
McCoy Carp
When: 01 Mar 18 16:22
You try to ban the AK
I got ten of them stashed
With a case of hand grenades


Body Count by Body Count on Body Count. I don't think they're talking about a starting hand in poker mind. Off the top of my head I can only think of one other occurrence of band, song, album having the same title and that is: Motörhead by Motörhead on Motörhead. Over to chit chat I think....
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Mar 18 16:24
Kenny  rogered
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Mar 18 16:28
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SpUnwuEPSvs

Excited
By:
Cutter27
When: 01 Mar 18 16:36
Is this post really about horse racing advice, or simply simple and idle minds expressing?
By:
THE-SEER
When: 01 Mar 18 16:57
The best advice l can give is
play real people you can get a read
no internet games, gl
By:
domino14
When: 01 Mar 18 17:01
AK is behind so many hands, the only way you would call an all in with it, is when the aggressor has a short stack.

AK pre has to hit, you're behind any pair, in a flip with most other A, smaller kicker.

Very few pro's will put tournament on the line with it. It's one of those hands when shoving with it is far more acceptable than calling with it.

Give me 88 - QQ and I'll happily be called by AK all day long.
By:
McCoy Carp
When: 01 Mar 18 17:02
Quite interesting & enjoyable that xmoneyx
By:
11kv
When: 01 Mar 18 17:03
Tea-Time 49's anyone.....
By:
Nonaynever
When: 01 Mar 18 17:08
Without wishing to be confrontational, you're not "flipping" with another ace smaller kicker, you're a strong fav and while maths will tell you you'll lose a percentage of the time, it's certainly not a 50/50 flip.
By:
domino14
When: 01 Mar 18 17:17
No you're not technically flipping agreed, but whilst you are in front, if they hit their second card, you're pretty much screwed.

That Phillips hand is a classic example of poor players;

1 - He limped, never limp with AK - 2 or 3x for pot value, you can always fold the flop.
2 - When the 2nd player raised, he has four options, shove, raise, call or pass. For the size of the raise, you shouldn't pass, but re-raising him is dangerous, either shove to put the player on the spot, or call are the sensible options.
3 - When the guy 4 bets his raise, get out the pot, unless you're willing to go all in, pass. He stupidly calls.
4 - He didn't connect on flop, but even if he did, he should have checked. Betting shows weakness, and the other player picks up on that going all in.
5 - Phillips should have been pot committed and called, he put too much to throw AK away, if he wasn't prepared to call the all in, he should have never led out.
By:
JML
When: 01 Mar 18 17:17
I always thought that Ace smaller kicker is the hand you're praying that your opponent has.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Mar 18 17:19
basicly over bet his hand an got in trouble?
By:
JML
When: 01 Mar 18 17:20
No you're not technically flipping agreed, but whilst you are in front, if they hit their second card, you're pretty much screwed.

if they hit and you don't your pretty much screwed-You could say that about any hand-
By:
wondersobright
When: 01 Mar 18 17:30
its 70/30 with AK v Ax
and nearly a coin flip with AK v pp

with AK you are only in bad shape against 2 hands pre-flop

with say 8s potentially you are in terrible shape against a higher pp

but it all depends on stack depths, opposition, position, number of players at table, number of players in the hand, who is the aggressor etc

certainly if you are deep stacked and you miss a flop it shouldn't be too hard to lay it down
even if you hit top pair you shouldn't go broke with 1 pair deep stacked
short stacked = looser play
By:
wondersobright
When: 01 Mar 18 17:35
domino14 • March 1, 2018 5:17 PM GMT
No you're not technically flipping agreed, but whilst you are in front, if they hit their second card, you're pretty much screwed.


do you mean AK v A9 on A72 flop
AK in front
and A9 guy sucks out with a 9 on turn or river??

its just bad luck for AK and the AK guy will win more in the long run

if the AK guy is a good player he should milk for value and get suspicious if he raised, especially on multiple streets
By:
wondersobright
When: 01 Mar 18 18:00
who for KOD?
By:
wondersobright
When: 01 Mar 18 18:04
yes KOD
are you still playing much online?
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Mar 18 18:04
King of Dubai

3 card brag merchant Excited
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Mar 18 18:18
did you call it 21 or blackjack at school
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Mar 18 18:48
yeah pontoon Excited
By:
McCoy Carp
When: 01 Mar 18 21:28
Shoot pontoon is better Happy
By:
domino14
When: 01 Mar 18 21:45
KOD

When you're an EPT winner, 3 x final table GUKPT, and a 2 times GPS winner and amassed over £624,000 in live cashes in the last 4 years, please come back and tell me how to play Poker. DM me whatever, I would play either of you anytime, anywhere, £10,000 buy in, winner takes all and I would happily give both your 10K's the Charity.
By:
domino14
When: 01 Mar 18 21:45
KOD

When you're an EPT winner, 3 x final table GUKPT, and a 2 times GPS winner and amassed over £624,000 in live cashes in the last 4 years, please come back and tell me how to play Poker. DM me whatever, I would play either of you anytime, anywhere, £10,000 buy in, winner takes all and I would happily give both your 10K's the Charity.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Mar 18 22:18
OooH - wheres KOD Excited
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Mar 18 22:21
domino, I knew you were right

you only have to google AK poker an see the trouble it can get you in
By:
cardenden
When: 01 Mar 18 23:07
yes you ar correct ,, YORKIE000
By:
JML
When: 01 Mar 18 23:39
He only won $12K for his EPT win so it wasn't such as big a deal as he's trying to make out.

Looking at his record he may have won hundreds of thousands but after entry fees the net figure could
well be negative.After travel and hotel expenses it's a big negative.
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