the demise of price wise

Is this because the majority of his tips win?

no its because they laid  a 16/1 winner on saturday when the rest were 12 s

hardestgame.
you are correct what do there do move on no
throw the toys out of the pram yes.

have a good day
regards
Ronnie.

i bet lads and coral still have their prices in the pwise table-even though you cant back them!

he who pays the piper calls the tune
the days of bookies laying prices is over
went to huntington last week and bookie had 16/1 on board when i checked my slip it had 15/1
no honour any more

Crazy decision. They would have been quids in laying his tips in recent times.

Another kick in the balls for the punter in this now bookie driven industry

Think you will be saving on shoe leather after your losses..

Thousands trying to get money on the same horses all at the same time, is it such a shock?

They can't possibly accommodate everybody.

Yes agree KK but with PW's recent record you would want to be accommodating as much as possible

Nonsensical approach from Lads/Corals who are not exactly pulling up trees at the moment

Seems to me their business is now seperared into two factions, zero risk policy with bets and 100% no risk FOBT bet acceptance

pricewise will on be useful for a select few...........tom and his mates........pricewise just ruins the price for ordinary punters..............last Saturday I really fancied librisa breeze..............tom tips it..........you get 5pts less.....

will only*

It will be great not to be stood behind a bunch of arbers every Saturday morning trying to burgle a few quid out of overnight market movers and pricewise. Let the punters thru please.

No arbers on here, dpf.   

You have the devil in you mr sparrow

I know it was said young in cheek but this final decision by corals cause it's corals all over has now shut the door on arbors completly

Had some fun times doing it but really can't be arsed anymore not even on a Saturday

Still other ways to skin a cat tho

I respect your honesty Mr Bird and look forward to hearing about your forthcoming skirmishes with the enemy.

Can't see how there will be any to be fair

Did bow out with a 4/1 Fred double on arsenal and spurs Sunday could dump on here at 10/3 combined

Maybe a few more of them but as for horse arming

It's over has been for ages really just did not want to admit it

Have you thought about taking a risk now and again?

I know Halloween is fast approaching mr sparrow but ffs stop scaring me

Great coincidences of our time.

Bruce does what the forum wants and raises the question of bookmakers refusing bets in his column of 15th October.

Just over a week later, Ladbrokes and Coral drop the Pricewise guarantee.

pricewise now down the pan with all bets at starting price
NO prices given
its a free for all but will not be chasing to shops anymore

Yep game over

Suppose il just have to get under the missus feet while she does her Saturday jobs

Hell I may even hoover some leaves up

GHOST there always an early weatherspoons starts serving booze at 9 am

I have never fathomed the fixation that punters had/have with the selections of Segal.

Its not just Segal though it could be anyone in the racing press and if they highlight a horse you are planning to back the price is cut, and if you have the foresight or some might say misfortune to back it the day before and it shortens due to a tipster putting it up the following day you then get restricted for being considered shrewd (wrongly in my case)

how can it be PRICEWISE with no prices

Facts i thought you was shtrewd you was always banging onto mart about how clever you was

Fancy them yourself or not they where always a good starting point and if you can't see that then you ain't as smart as your claim

Get a pricewise horse in the bag use your green from it to back the one you do fancy

O m I of cause

the shrewd bookmakers [coral & ladborkes] know when to pull the price  guarantee
5 losers yesterday and think how much money they should have won
at least £ 100 thousand  in shops on net and the phones
well done traders shot yourself in the foot and bookies will not NEED YOU ANYMORE

Saw on there screens yesterday they would lay any horse to take out 5k

Yep of cause they would if a 5s poke was 6/1 on here

12.22 yesterday in a Ladbrokes shop, asked for £100 win on Chilean at 12/1 in the Racing Post Trophy. 12.5/13.0 on here at the time.

12.30 the phone rang in the shop - I could have £100 at 10/1.

Told them to stuff it.

Finished 6th at 12/1 (Betfair SP 16.5).

That's the reality of their Lay Any Horse on ITV to Take Out £5k "promise".

Just how are they going to survive post-FOBTs?

^^^

They won't.

So they would of laid you £500 at 10/1 then had your monkey on here at 12/1

Yep they will lay one to take out 5k alright if by your example they can have a free shot at 2 k

Yet these are the ones who use the arbor card

PW an outdated concept for some time - but as I've said on another thread anyone who didn't take advantage of bookies holding prices in the morning was missing a huge opportunity. The superior types on here who go on about making their own selections and think people take early prices in order to arb for a few bob miss(ed) the point entirely. I've always studied form and backed my own selections. At one time the attraction of the early prices was to pit your wits against the big firms' odds compilers (Billy's at one time advertised early prices in that way). So if you were working you could still study form on a Friday night knowing you could back your selection(s) at guaranteed price in the morning.  I used to turn up at shops Sat am to back my own selections every week. When the exchanges took off I found I could back my selections sometimes, but not always, at  bigger prices on here; but I found I could also take advantage of the opportunities offered by tipsters like Pricewise to back other horses at far bigger odds than their true chances of winning (that's the real aim of betting : 'arbing', or partially laying off which is/was a more accurate description of the way I operated, helps you do that). If you're going to a bank to make a withdrawal you'd be a mug not to pick up a £100 pound note you found lying on the ground on your way there. Problem recently is that if you are even moderately successful the bookies restrict you to ludicrously small amounts and you can now no longer back your own selections (even when there's no market on BF to arb them in). The myth that all moderately successful bettors must be arbers has been created by traders who , frankly , just aren't up to their job - though the way the big bookies operate why do they need 'traders' if the business model is just to shut down any account that's winning or even looks like it could win. The ideal bookies customer is someone with a large compensation payout after a brain injury : all their sh*te about responsible gambling (Gamcare !?) is designed to hide that basic fact. They're really only interested in serial losers and persons with gambling addictions. All this has alienated the traditional horse racing bettor and is leading to the demise of our sport.

don't have to be successful to be restricted, keep saying this.  put £100 on 20 9/2 shots.  if they all finish last at 11/4 you will be £2000 down (ie unsuccessful) but you will still get an email about the future of your account.

Any opportunity to restrict the bookies will do so. For instance, I backed a 9/1 antepost AOB winner in the 2016 Yorkshire Oaks B**way restricted and withheld withdrawal for over two weeks; 18 months later with not a single bet from me the restrictions were lifted. Any now they are trying to entice me back with promotions, but I'm not biting...once bitten, twice shy!

whole things a joke.  guesser with a very bad strike rate tells you to back one at 14/1 (12's elsewhere). 


you stick £25 on it and you're restricted for backing one at 14's when it was 12's elsewhere.