the demise of price wise

no its because they laid  a 16/1 winner on saturday when the rest were 12 s

i bet lads and coral still have their prices in the pwise table-even though you cant back them!

Crazy decision. They would have been quids in laying his tips in recent times.

Think you will be saving on shoe leather after your losses..

Yes agree KK but with PW's recent record you would want to be accommodating as much as possible

Nonsensical approach from Lads/Corals who are not exactly pulling up trees at the moment

Seems to me their business is now seperared into two factions, zero risk policy with bets and 100% no risk FOBT bet acceptance

will only*

No arbers on here, dpf.   

I respect your honesty Mr Bird and look forward to hearing about your forthcoming skirmishes with the enemy.

Have you thought about taking a risk now and again?

pricewise now down the pan with all bets at starting price
NO prices given
its a free for all but will not be chasing to shops anymore

GHOST there always an early weatherspoons starts serving booze at 9 am

Its not just Segal though it could be anyone in the racing press and if they highlight a horse you are planning to back the price is cut, and if you have the foresight or some might say misfortune to back it the day before and it shortens due to a tipster putting it up the following day you then get restricted for being considered shrewd (wrongly in my case)

Facts i thought you was shtrewd you was always banging onto mart about how clever you was

Fancy them yourself or not they where always a good starting point and if you can't see that then you ain't as smart as your claim

Get a pricewise horse in the bag use your green from it to back the one you do fancy

O m I of cause

Saw on there screens yesterday they would lay any horse to take out 5k

Yep of cause they would if a 5s poke was 6/1 on here

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They won't.

PW an outdated concept for some time - but as I've said on another thread anyone who didn't take advantage of bookies holding prices in the morning was missing a huge opportunity. The superior types on here who go on about making their own selections and think people take early prices in order to arb for a few bob miss(ed) the point entirely. I've always studied form and backed my own selections. At one time the attraction of the early prices was to pit your wits against the big firms' odds compilers (Billy's at one time advertised early prices in that way). So if you were working you could still study form on a Friday night knowing you could back your selection(s) at guaranteed price in the morning.  I used to turn up at shops Sat am to back my own selections every week. When the exchanges took off I found I could back my selections sometimes, but not always, at  bigger prices on here; but I found I could also take advantage of the opportunities offered by tipsters like Pricewise to back other horses at far bigger odds than their true chances of winning (that's the real aim of betting : 'arbing', or partially laying off which is/was a more accurate description of the way I operated, helps you do that). If you're going to a bank to make a withdrawal you'd be a mug not to pick up a £100 pound note you found lying on the ground on your way there. Problem recently is that if you are even moderately successful the bookies restrict you to ludicrously small amounts and you can now no longer back your own selections (even when there's no market on BF to arb them in). The myth that all moderately successful bettors must be arbers has been created by traders who , frankly , just aren't up to their job - though the way the big bookies operate why do they need 'traders' if the business model is just to shut down any account that's winning or even looks like it could win. The ideal bookies customer is someone with a large compensation payout after a brain injury : all their sh*te about responsible gambling (Gamcare !?) is designed to hide that basic fact. They're really only interested in serial losers and persons with gambling addictions. All this has alienated the traditional horse racing bettor and is leading to the demise of our sport.

Any opportunity to restrict the bookies will do so. For instance, I backed a 9/1 antepost AOB winner in the 2016 Yorkshire Oaks B**way restricted and withheld withdrawal for over two weeks; 18 months later with not a single bet from me the restrictions were lifted. Any now they are trying to entice me back with promotions, but I'm not biting...once bitten, twice shy!