Worcester

great interviewing techniques by Bob Cooper - he may have well just asked the Clerk Of The Course her name and said nothing else - cos she didn't!!

He could have asked her what she thought of the trainers withdrawing runners because the word 'firm' appears or if there will be a refund of

sorts to the race goers who are now presented with 3 and 4 runner races.

All horses that have been withdrawn should be banned from ever running in the future if the word firm appears in the going description.

I backed all the Skelton horses in an e/w lucky 31. Landed the first horse at 20/1. Lost the second and then rest all none runners.

Complete fiasco. A very good card has now turned into a rubbish one.

Obviously, according to those trainers the Clerk has got it badly wrong. I don't agree with over watering but clearly you need to strike the right balance.

just to confirm the trainers think the ground is too quick this time ?

she got it very wrong some would say she's clueless

rare for worcester to get it wrong but they certainly have today

As far as watering goes it's damned if you do damned if you don't, but the decision to split up the bumper looks ludicrous now. Bumpers shouldn't be split up unless 2 maximum fields can be generated, especially when they have to be endured in the middle of the card.

Have 4th place laid this Shoal Bay at 1.04 to win a hundred.  Lunacy of a price.  Dame produced another that couldn't win in 21 runs.

middle of october after a dryish spell you would think a clerk could produce ground somewhere between good (easy side) and g/s
nobody would be complaining and the fields would stand up

produce g/f for jumping & trainers don't run

anyone think their going stick needs a service?

always high 6s, low 7s rider!!

having said that going stick & ground description are a close but not direct comparison (GS measures force needed to break top surface & pull back)

65 non runners at all meetings,,,

counting irish

What happened? Did the sun stay out all night and firm the ground up?

ground is just firmer than described (good last night, good g/f places before racing, changed to g/f after race 1 & arguably firm places, apparently ground is patchy as well)

Cheers Wondersobright

Clerks of the course will always tell lies as regards the going as seen by the number of withdrawals on the flat races.Do they care about the punters?

It's obvious trainers are making some sort of point/stand here after the BHA's initiative on non runners, effectively sticking 2 fingers up to them.

according to the bha stats the average going stick reading for g/f is 8.7, at 6am the going stick reading for worcester was 6.9

I'm not a fan of comparing an "average" for all tracks as there is great variety in the composition of the soil from track to track

but 6.9 is about normal for good ground for worcester, 8.7 would be a road if ever recorded there

last 3 years there (before today)...57 meetings
43 starting on officially good (avg reading 6.9)
7 on officially g/f (avg reading 7.0)
7 on officially g/s (avg reading 6.7)

it would probably be 6.5 when under 3 foot of water in the winter too

Deffo more than the ground to blame for the non runners, ulterior motive at play

it must be bad even trending on twitter

left worcester after 4 races £19 to go in no refunds no apology for a complete fiasco watering equipment on racks in the back straight most of the crowd left after 4 races probably have the same fiasco at chepstow over the weekend inaccurate going description and nrs on the sunday

give chepstow a chance ffs

thankfully we didnt get the same fiasco at chepstow after all the thinker 81 runners saturday 77 runners sunday and the ground seemed perfect,well done chepstow some very good performances as well.

Worcester ground will be well watered tomorrow, don't worry!