Emaraaty 1-45 newbury sat

WELAYIT    23 Sep 17 13:32 
Lay It ....... Magnificent to take the honours

post your lay

Cheers George/Andrew

willy wht do you go on with suck infantile behavior? he said he was laying it and backing magnificent? why do you need proof?  if i say i think liverpool will win today do you need proof i backed them?

such

kavvie    23 Sep 17 13:36 
willy wht do you go on with suck infantile behavior? he said he was laying it and backing magnificent? why do you need proof?

becos 99% are pretendee wofflers.

ever hear of opinions?  he thinks the fav is a good lay at the price?  and so what if hes a waffler?  hes entitled to his opinion wrong or right?  ive it backed reasonably heavily but theres a certain logic in magnificent(fav was beaten 4l fto,a long way for a 2yo,not withstanding the tenderness of the ride)..and hes entitled to express it.it is after all an opinions forum!!

aye..he has an opinion in every race. geenious.

a lot of geenious types on here!!  but when people see that sh1te "post ya lay"  its totally silly.because he can post up a false lay if he so desires..and so what either way.if he put up 10000/20000   would you begin to take him serious?  end of comment  on the subject

if it 'looked' genuine i'd say wd. of course i may have been duped.

lol .... Willie ... Im reputable ... as we all know on this forum your a gumball....please send your charitable 50k to TPOBF.... "The Prevention Of Betfair Fakes"

fav for 2000 guineas

niceish performance

Destroyed 'em

Very nice

Magnificent

nice horse but loads of donkeys in that race

does jamie spencer realise you can hold a horse up without it having to be stone cold last ?

when big brother looks in it is amazing how they can win,they should get big brother to steward every race.
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itv show started at 1.30  racing from newbury included  .ud wonder why they didnt show that race?

baritone in the tracker.

Great shout, Jamesdean.

job done

No denying how impressive Emaraaty looked at Newbury, and it looks like he'll be taking his chance on Saturday in the Dewhurst, where his main opponent is likely to be Expert Eye and whatever O'Brien runs from 7 entries.

4/6 Expert Eye
4/1 Verbal Dexterity (Jim Bolger)
6/1 Emaraaty
9/1 Seahenge
10/1 US Navy Flag

First time I've looked at the market for the Dewhurst and surprised Expert Eye is that short considering the recent records of Bolger and Aiden in this race, having said that I expected Emaraaty to be 4/1 or so. Expert Eye was obviously very impressive at Goodwood but I won't be jumping in to back him given the unknown potential of the others.

Thought they might have run him in the Craven or the Greenham or summick, but nah, he's turning up at Newcastle tomoz neet instead

And Gerald Mosse's there too Oi Willie, pop down to the weighing room and get his autograph for us

3-10 on the early odds

wd willie

running in a class 5

£3,752 up for grabs

From the Dewhurst straight to a novice at Newcastle, what is going on there?

He sent Enable up to Newcastle, I'm also confused.

Correct Holywell, he did do didnt he.

He still has the Guineas entry, maybe Gosden has decided just to give him an easy race as a prep rather than risk a hard one in a recognised trial.

On first inspection, most will say it's a point and shoot job, and it may well be, but disect the form and it's not exactly awe inspiring. The form on his debut hasn't worked out well, of all the 15 other runners only 3 have won since, and egg and spoon races at that. The race he won (albeit very easily) only 1 of the other 14 runners has won since, again a poor race. I know he looked really useful when he won, but he finished almost last in his next race, although it was the Dewhurst. Opposition to him is sparse, and he could win 5L, but I wouldn't be backing it at 3/10.

Hang on, hang on, we need to get our gallops man on the case...Come in domino12...

The genie appeared within 2 minutes when I rubbed the lamp last night.

His lead horse is Jawwaal who I suggested as a lay the other day as he is too keen and finds zero. Emaraaty is in a different league to him, but he also is a very free going horse and connections are keen to try and get him to switch off. Rated 109 there isn't many races to run him in, and the 7f classic trials would be a bit too sharp for him, and he would probably be a bit too free for a mile. He runs in a novice as he is eligible and the stiff 7f will suit him, but at 3/10 you are not really getting much in the way of value and his lead horse hardly ran a race that would inspire confidence. Personally I don't like the horse, but the key is to get him to switch off and give him confidence with a win. Will he win, probably, would I back him at 3/10, most definitely not. I kind of hope he jumps out too well to drop in and pulls Jim to the front and ends up setting it up for the Johnston horse who ran to 84 when winning at Redcar last season and gets 5lb from the Gosden horse and if it's just improved 10lb from last season, I doubt there would be little between them and if the Gosden horse pulls hard again, he could end up finding himself getting beat. 5/1 the Johnston horse each way is an ew bet to nothing and I would chance him, don't like the fav, it's very keen and one of these Bridle Monkeys I don't like. Granted he has the best form and should win, but he represents zero in the way of value.

Cheers domino

Racing with the choke out didn't stop him at Newbury and that made the win all the more impressive imo

I did wonder about him physically at Newbury as he did look a bit on the light side.

Whatever, hard to take it as anything other than a negative that they're taking this route with him, but maybe it's all part of a Gosden master plan.

He won't be running in the Guineas if that's what you're trying to figure out. Expect he'll go to France as running round a bend will help him settle better, and he wouldn't get within 10L of Roaring Lion so would be pointless running against him.

'would I back him at 3/10, most definitely not'

so..will you be laying?

jamesdean
18 Apr 18 20:25
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Correct Holywell, he did do didnt he.


no too far now

will dot up or bomb out imo..

18-Apr-18
21:11:41    20:45 Newcastle
Emaraaty - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:122742793953 | Matched: 18-Apr-18 21:58:35    Lay    1.35    100.00    35.00
100.00
Matched

Last night, drifted a bit since.

only concern is newcastle can get anything beat and gosden not quite sparkling..but opposition arnt much..gl

@Willie

The Johnston horse ran to 84 last season and gets weight from the Gosden horse. With normal improvement it should run to at least 90, which doesn't give the fav much margin for error, given it's best figure is 96 and ran 94 when winning it's maiden, despite it's flattering OR of 109.

5/1 the Johnson horse looks solid ew for me. Just couldn't back the fav, regardless of whether he wins or not.

race is dire and mj horses very hit and miss.

Thanks willie, i really only have one running for me, the MJ filly receiving 5lb who could run down the fav late on if it's not right, but it's more a fun bet with limited loss. After the race, there could be a lot of punters saying that was the best 1.43 shot this year.

i'll say make all hard hld or last

becoming a backable price now

got it in las leg of a L15 with 3 other shorties at Newc

wont put a dent in my recent loses so not aftertiming, but I could do with it winning.

gl

1.61

Gosden has taken good ones to newc before, thinking Enable.

Cuddington and Mabbs Cross double being lined up.  Dave Armstrong special.

Cuddington wasn't cheap at 115,000 euros, and he caught the eye on debut, looks like a sizeable, rangey sort, who was very green on debut and was lugging left, but he ran on well at the finish and hit the line strong.

Not seen since August and moved out of Dascombe's yard to Dods.

Tight Lines impressed when winning her maiden at Redcar, travelling strongly and easily drawing clear.

I'd say both of these have potential, so disagree with Willie about the race being dire. Though whether can they're up to beaten Emaraaty is another question!

*beating

Runway looks excellently priced in what is going to be a weird run race?

Yes George, I was at Haydock that day, the horse also fell out of stalls and wasnt sure it was liking the ground.   Obviously quirky but some ability, Armstrong's best horse from same stable runs tomorrow, which I though was interesting

The MJ filly is going to want further, so encouraging she was able to win over 7f in the style she did, though wonder why she wasn't seen after July.

They are lumping on it now

Reckon Willie shafter has his wallet out on this one

Wow! 1.35 - 1.61 - 1.2

At 1.23 ? I've gone for the lay

goodbye muney

never pre emp the market..

Reckon Willie shafter has his wallet out on this one

last time willie backed one pre race was just after the falklands war ...

Layed in place @ 1.08

Only has to fail to place 1 in 11 times for the bet to be profitable....still 'Goodbye more money'

I've had £100 4 place on Cuddington @ 1.44. Think that first 4, is better value than half the price on the jolly to win.

1/5 not for me

bolts up

very impressive

Well that tops off a **** day . Cuddington looks woeful 115K for that and can't run straight.

Winners won well, but as Sir Henry said, they all look fast past trees.

Easiest winner you’ll see all year at Newcastle

Crowley missed Newmarket and got 2 winners, job done.

don't really get that, private jet / chopper from Suffolk up to there in 25 mins ?

Tight Lines pedigree screams longer trips imo, and Joe wasn't hard on her after lying second behind the fav. It'll help the handicap mark.

Cuddington again looked badly in need of the experience, but again was going on at the death. He's still a colt and looks in need of gelding to straighten him out.

chavman    19 Apr 18 20:52 
1/5 not for me

never looked in doubt

think it hit 1.01 with over 2F to go

think i clicked bit further out than that

Always travelling like a winner, well done with your L15 maleuk01

cheers

only a little one, but helps with recent losses

Was it the old double bluff by the Newmarket Mafia?

They wanted mugs like me to think they were sending the horse to Newcastle cuz it hadn't trained on too well, then when the layers pushed it out to 4-6, in they went with their tens of thousands on the 108 rated horse against a bunch of wannabe northern handicappers. I'm not falling for that one again

indeed george...20 min before race 1.35>>1.6...then in 10 mins back to 1.2

so the questions remains who were happily laying it

Shaft you betting I/r and me forming judgement pre race are 2 incomparable entities

you aint got any judgement..if 1/5 wernt for you did u lay it?

no,the issue was would i back at 1/5 first run of the season and the added factor of a morning drift.i decided not to.

would i have backed i/r 2 furlongs out with a second and a half time delay advantage,then yes.

would i then subsequently come on here chest thumping and telling everyone how great i was,then no,only a tool would do that.

would i then subsequently come on here chest thumping and telling everyone how great i was,then no,only a tool would do that.

if its that easy,give your day job up,deposit some decent funds,get yourself to the track and share your experience.

where have i come on chest thumping?  this thread is from last year and was posted pre race.

and if you think you can win 6 figures + every yr for 14yrs becos of a 1.5 sec advantage then im amazed you aint joined in.

chest thumping again,youll be swinging off the trees like your mate next

Willie

I sent you a message. Feel free to ignore.

Cheers

use old forum..will look now

He's back, Emaraaty, not in the Irish 2000G (Sheikh Hamdan has the MJ hoss for that), but in the fiendishly competitive £100K handicap at Goodwood (2,30).

Running off a mark of 109, a Group horse in a handicap? Johnny G is sticking a hood on his free going charge.

willie
re your 11,26 post and the 100k
speaking to a pal of yours from spenny last week at York he told me he wins a 100k a year
but after all the expenses he would make more flipping burgers in macdonalds.
regards
Ronnie.

Apr 20, 2018 -- 11:03AM, chavman wrote:

would i then subsequently come on here chest thumping and telling everyone how great i was,then no,only a tool would do that.

Yes a big tool at that dosnking his monkey over s 1-5 shot dear oh dear

ronnie..are you referring to paul? if so he has no exes..plays from home.

Interesting that the 12/1 shot I tipped up on the same day (Fennaan) from the same yard is near half the price of Emaraaty in this race.


Absolutely no shame with the after time but it's not often the market gets it wrong when Gosden has two in the race

Put in a 109 rated horse so the stablemate can run off a nice low weight?

Be rude not too. Seems to have a better draw as well maybe in 1, 5 of the top 6 in betting are drawn 12345.

Got it wrong there. Emaraaty only just lost by a short head, Fennan half a dozen plus lengths behind.

No worries Angie, the 12/1 the time before has taken care of today.