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its an exchange that has refunded my bet on the second,
And what do that particular Exchange's rules say? |
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Rob fair point re rules,you can look at Volers glitch or whatever, but the weigh in rule went out the window then simply because it cost betfair money.
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Although it is an extreme example. If exchanges had been around when flockton grey won... based on betfair's stance gere.. the cheats would have got away with the money scott free.
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what rule did they use tovoid bets re the Voler race ?
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As far as i remember "The dealer" they blamed it on a bot gone wrong and the person hadn't the money in his account.
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The one that suited them best, dealer. They had a rule that said "all bets stand, regardless of errors" and another that said "bets are void if there's a technical error". They chose "void". If they'd paid out on Voler it would've have cost them big money because the punter who "lost" that bet didn't have the money in his account to pay it.
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ta again
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I'm not a "racing" man but surely, if you've got a 2yo making its racecourse debut, someone who knows the horse well will be on course, watching it closely, to see how it handles things? All very strange ...
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As i said before to their eternal credit the da* paid(pre laddies)
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cardenden • July 27, 2017 8:30 PM BST
westdag .. its an exchange that has refunded my bet on the second, Do you reckon if you were the layer at 999-1 they would've refunded that? |
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If it's Betfair it ain't the Exchange,has to be the Sportsbook.
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I watched ATR coverage today and also my recording of the whole event from parade ring and especially the after-race coverage.
The really suspicious thing for me is that after the race there were at least 3 owners,a stable girl,and the trainer. I'm not having it that none of these people thought there was something unfamiliar about the horse. Henry Cecil would go on the Newmarket gallops with over 60 horse and could identify them all from 100 yards,so something needs investigating starting with the trainer. |
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i think everyone would love to see a picture of both horses side by side.
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Of course if we had a proper trade newspaper, they'd have cameraman and reporter on site before first lot. Still you never know.
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I would be amazed if John Egan who must have rode 3000 horses, did not spot this was not a 2yo filly.
Yes dealer, if there are any flecks of white on either horse, then that would be really strange. |
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Should be a bit of a difference between an unraced 2yo and a 3yo handicapper, honest mistake or not.
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didnt realise so many clueless people gambled.
cringeworthy. |
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betfair need not void the race merely pay out the loers out of their profits as a goodwill gesture that is merely what the bookmakers are doing
Sure the shareholders would be delighted to have their cash dished out for no good reason. |
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I think the "real" horse would've won anyway imo
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not really Egans job to question wether its the right horse or not |
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Bookies have shareholders too and they are showing goodwill..please explain difference please
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Are you talking about the Exchange or Sportsbook?
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wrong horse ran, doesnt matter about the weigh in,, all stakes should be returned,,END OFF
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And how do you get those stakes & winnings back from your fellow peers hours later?
Should last week's void at Killarney which has now been overturned now be re-settled? |
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I can sort of see how the wrong horse could go to post, but how did the trainers and connections not see it was the wrong horse when it came back to the winners enclosure? Do you think they decided to stay stum & not say anything & hope it wasn't routinely doped tested? That seems the strange part of it all to me and where questions should be asked.
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What actually happened here?
Read the thread with interest but can only discern part of the story, something along the lines of: A trainer ran one horse using the name of another or horse was withdrawn but ran anyway? What happened? |
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https://www.racingpost.com/news/yarmouth-fiasco/drama-as-wrong-horse-wins-race/294547
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A different horse (3yo) ran in a 2yo race and won, the majority of the betfair forum think thats okay as they "weighed in".
Betfair think it is right and fair, I sheeete you not, you couldn't make it up. (no financial interest myself) |
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Voler La Vedette is a very important precedent here. Betfair did what they liked then.
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They will do the same here, 5% commission on whatever,a greedy,greedy company, a rare occurence but pure common sense to void everything,even if it did cost them something, people backing the fav never knew they were up against a 3yo.
Nothing right morally in collecting that commission. |
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Thanks for info.
 Looking at yesterdays PnL I can see I lost ££££lots laying Mandarin Princess, reading the RP website they're saying that Millies Kiss won the race. I was suspicious at the time because the bookmaker price was 50/1 and the BFSP was 60, which is a tiny premium to the normal industry-Betfair differences at those kind of odds. Somebody new. guessing I'm not going to get a refund of the money I've been cheated out of.  |
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other exchange refunded stakes on loosers
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name?
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I don't believe any exchange would refund stakes.
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I don't understand why the exchange bets aren't voided?
1) Mandarin Princess did not win the race, regardless of the weigh in or any other 'paper work', it simply didn't win. 2) Betfair have a record of voiding markets "in the interests of fairness", why are they abandoning the moral high ground here? |
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Escapee, agree with you totally. This situation is not like a normal weigh in. Betfair really do have to do something in this instance.
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Like what? Raid peoples' bank accounts?
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