Crooser - The facts and figures

messaged u kenbo

smokey giving others a character assassination...

this is the bloke thats been ousted as a confirmed liar and fantasist.

but he did train the sas....(to eat kebabs)

WAFDSC.

btw..any credibility that crooser had went right out the window when he tipped Captain Scooby last week..

utterly cringeworthy.

lets see you put up a pre race thread for a month no odds on bet u cant make a profit

why willie? his overall win percentage give him licence to tip anything he wants?  he obviously has a reason for every tip?

Why would he Mart each to their owm imo

How can it possibly be a breach of data when everything is posted on here for everyone to see ?

Wazza a bully divna kid yasen bonny lad,he roots oot bullysheiters.................

dont need defending..i dish it out and can certainly take it back...


mart..why did you tell the forum you trained the sas?

I haven't backed a Crooser tip for some time now. I do agree that his credibility is slightly tarnished with this 'in the know' spiel, and the severe upping of stakes/chasing.

Having said that, his level stakes record is fantastic, and deserves applauding (which funnily enough hasn't happened).

If the p&l was a huge negative, then the posts on here would be through the roof.

Where's the pic gone Mart !

pass
11k

i was having a bad dream when that idiot brough scott said that horse fell

was thommo.

WAC

crooser fluked up with a 50/1 chance in a race where the 2 very short fav and 2nd fav underperformed..without that he'd be nigh on just in front to sp.

the tipping of captain scooby was embarrassing as was he stakes increasing 5 fold as he had fell into a loss.

please dont tell me he is shrewd.

willie laugh ffs ma it was a long time ago  water under the bridge
am messing u malis from me yfdc

willy every one bets diff man i told you how i bet and no its pretty obvious i cant pout up my bets because i want to keep my contacts and bigger bets going , i normaly dont put up such bets because they can make or break a season for me  this was one of these such bets few weeks ago not saying where it was but am sure kenbo can confirm i put it up the night before after all my bets were on


Marzouq really like this fellow have put a few bets on this with help of a few m8s bet 365

have taken 10s 365 and they are also giving 1/4 odds ew max bet for me good luck
if you follow ! :taunt:  it hosed up

At advised price + 128

At BFSP + 226

The lesson to be learned is not to back at crosser's advised odds. Instead, wait near closing time and hammer away..

He'd be + 31 points at SP if it weren't for the 'fluke winner'.

After 500 bets, any profit at SP is good. Glass Office won at 40/1 (advised at 50/1) if we pretend that came second, then he's behind at SP.

11k check your mail

Marzouq
This only won a 4 days ago.
Were you on AP?

mart..why did you tell the forum you trained the sas?

loose lips sink ships i new it was winning lets  lets say that

penzance
penzance 18 Jul 17 19:48 Joined: 26 Feb 04 | Topic/replies: 7,735 | Blogger: penzance's blog
Marzouq
This only won a 4 days ago.
Were you on AP?

no -PCP

strange marts not posting the loosers from last week.

I see PP/betfair have let their cash cow back.

told u yest Ernestine i posted a 10s winner and a 12s on here and 10s on other place
dont u listen wazza your memory gone , oh dear the west horton bomber is back

good one ,chav.

if betfair run a book whats wd be the odds on  wazza dopey
being the 1st fence sitter to come on and put up a pre race thread
for a month no show fences  1.01

both big gobs but  tip shy


   

paddy doing a money back special if any them starts a thread then chickens out after taking a beating they will refund all losing bets conditions apply


 

bit unfair mart he tipped a boxer a little while ago .... came second

n east

get it all back on mayweather.

Breach of data protection

Didn't take smokey long to start abusing people again, Won't be long till his next holiday.

correct dopey..ive reported him 4-5 times already.

dopeyone
dopeyone 18 Jul 17 20:35 Joined: 09 Apr 07 | Topic/replies: 3,495 | Blogger: dopeyone's blog
Didn't take smokey long to start abusing people again, Won't be long till his next holiday.
who exactly have i abused ?  on here ? your a snitch dopey arent u

Cork langer earlier???? or did you forget that one , like you forget your loosers

how much u loose on the boxer wazza

probably more than you got in your life mart.

7.5k klitschko

was Haye

lost on both then

stevie post ya bets up tar

I'm insulted by your words mart!!!!!!!

Willie Shafter.
18 Jul 17 20:37
Joined: 15 Jul 04 | Topic/replies: 3,070 | Blogger: Willie Shafter.'s blog
correct dopey..ive reported him 4-5 times already.



I've only managed to report him 3 times so far steve, Forum lag

Mart is seething

You seem to know a lot about what others think of me mart.

They are quite welcome to tell me if that's the case.

Or you could just name them...but  know that ain't gonna happen don't we ??

irish cant be bothered with idiots who try to convince themselfs they know about racing

see when saddo ask about the track sunday we both put up 12/s winners a tidy
£20 double that wd have been both drifted

I'm not here to gain popularity and don't give a flying fcuk who does or doesn't like me, unlike you who craves attention 24/7 like a petulant child.

Now get to bed you have to be up at 6.30 to saw some wood.

Didnt you snitch on never give up ?

Windsor boy belonged in a wood chipper tbf.

I thought you admitted to reporting him

My bac

see stevie has ran of because of his boxing bet oh dear must have felt like a punch drunk boxer
well he like to give it out but does not like to take it 2nd in a 2 horse race

Deep heat, Irish m8.

Mart the biggest grass on here Fact!!!

sadda he had character something sorely lacking on here he was funny
i wd rather have a hundred of him than 1 of doom and gloom dopey

If you take out the 66-1 winner the figures are pretty average and the figures don't show the length
of losing runs, you see profit figures banded about rather a lot but if they depend on one single
winner in a rarely obtainable occurrence then you cannot expect a repeat of such an event again ...
Just my tuppence worth.

maybe you and cork need medical help who in thier right mind spend hours looking at others accound
your not wired up the right way you pair u even stalked me on my face book u obsessed with me dopey

Mart stabbed his long time friend GODB in the back

no chance of doing a dopey thread tally we wd be waiting for someone to find a post like finding a man on the moon bottle merchant

dopeyone
dopeyone 18 Jul 17 21:26 Joined: 09 Apr 07 | Topic/replies: 3,502 | Blogger: dopeyone's blog
Mart stabbed his long time friend GODB in the back what are you talking about more garbled diatribe

You know you did billy

hat did you think of that draw fiasco at Beverley today Mart it could be an opportunity
if you strike a certain bet the bookies dislike when you get one up ..a f/c as a saver
usually is a good idea as a little insurance profit the circumstances have to be similar
e.g. the stall gap....Only an idea what d'ya reckon Big Fella?

marts favourite responce ' garbled diatribe'

mart..why did you tell the forum you trained the sas?

  this is what your boxer looked like wazza why put crazy bets on at silly odds its madness

mat as well say it hows much was the bets and what odds

Guessed that there would be a mixed response to posting these numbers, goes with the territory, brings people out in their true colours more often than not.

TNM - your constant digs do you no favours, competition is healthy, try pulling your socks up...!

smokey1919 - your inability to understand the reason for this thread is quite frankly worrying, the chip on your shoulder just gets bigger and bigger each time that you return, this thread has nothing to do with mine or anyone elses merits as a gambler, but as you insist on bringing it up, every record kept of your exploits shows you as an habitual loser, be it the challenges you throw out or examples like the some guessers thread where a meticulous record is maintained of your pre-race plays, to save you any further embarrassment I won't post where you stand from the 85 who have contributed. For the record, my own p&l is very healthy and nothing that you need to fret over, you fail to appreciate that there is no pressure on me as I do not need to win and you will never understand that point unless one day you find yourself in the same position.

As for your comment about data protection, another case of you putting your foot in your mouth as others have already pointed out, how could you possibly know whether I had conversed with crooser.....

The envy you express because I am free to do as I please 365 days a year is stomach churning, how I use that time need be no concern of yours, what I do has no impact on you other than to wind you up, and that is a problem you have built up all of your own through your own feelings of inadequacy.

Talking of which your mate Tutan was on why you were away, his assessment of you was spot on, nothing derogatory I might add, just a simple analysis of you as a person.

You advising others to seek medical help is comedy gold, your stupidity appears to have no determinable length that can be measured by man

Shafter - you better than anyone should know that a naff selection is possible from anyone and have you considered that crooser may have merely posted it to get a rise out of you, likewise the increased staking....

s.kenbo - yes the numbers are impressive whatever anyone else says or may think but can't see certain people being able to accept that fact

prosniper - correct, not that I'd expect many to take it on board

breedingmad - anyone that plays like crooser will have unsuccessful periods, goes with the territory and is why bank management and staking is paramount, not able to ascertain anything on that point other than his postings are erratic and give little evidence of a successful disciplined player, but they maybe his way of having a laugh, who knows....
I can tell you that among his picks, the worst runs he encountered were 31/28/25/22, nearly every other sequence was 12 or less.

crazy bets? ydc  i thought david haye was great value at 1/5

how much did u or anyone else lay at 1/5? 

i'll tell you ..nothing.

TNM - your constant digs do you no favours, competition is healthy, try pulling your socks up...!

Are you for real?

Whats the problem TNM, lack of faith in yourself perhaps....

If you take out the 66-1 winner...

Why would you do that?  Ridiculous statement.  Bit like saying 'if you take out all of his losers, he's the second best punter in the world ever'.

Norfolk is jealous of crooser

Do you think + 501.18 points represents a lack of faith in myself?

if you must comment rob..get the prices correct.

Not at all, just wanted to give you the chance to post your figure really, know nobody reads your own thread...!

. All you're looking for is lemming to help bring the price down so you jump ship for a tiny profit. Probably your only source of income besides the dole norfolk

if you must comment rob..get the prices correct.

Sincere apologies; I don't follow the threads and the price is immaterial here, as why would you remove the winning bets from the figures?

Hope that life is treating you well.

couldnt imagine anyone being jealous of someone tipping captain scooby

stevie likes to mention losers but forgets the winners posters put up
he also forgets to put up his own losers conveniently
maybe he was punch  drunk and instead of the lay button he pressed haye

yes fine thx rob..profit around £100,000 this year minus pc and exes

but as mart says..betting 1.01 is easy,anyone can do it.

as is training the sas

he also forgets to put up his own losers conveniently

One could say a lot about him, but that's plainly untrue.  You will struggle to find someone else who reveals so much about his betting on here.  You could probably learn a bit if you wised up a little.

Stevie u wanna know how good it feels when someone tells u a 14s chance and the next day its 11/4 fav and hoses up , u can take your 1,01 and shove them where the sun don't shine

tell u what stevioe boy al have 2 or 3 bets next punchestown fest i bet i make 10k in 3 days 1.01
with a 2k bank i will have min 12k that is a fact    i have very very good friends
stevie  they should call u stevie wander because you wander how a 1.01 gets toppled

you can make as much as you want when you edit bets.

YDC

Irish are lucky • July 18, 2017 11:43 PM BST
. All you're looking for is lemming to help bring the price down so you jump ship for a tiny profit. Probably your only source of income besides the dole norfolk

The 'lemmings' who have followed me since 22/5/2011 are winning enough!

can you substantiate these 'winnings'?

smokey1919, keep seething and doing your best to hide it, trouble is your mask slipped a long time ago and everyone has your number, you will never achieve what you crave from this place but do keep trying as it gives everyone a good laugh...!

Rest assured I'll not lose sleep over your assessment of me, after all, it will be me rising when I wish, spending my day doing what I choose to do whilst you toddle off to work to again and again, day in day out, until you collect that 2m pension...!

Remember some of us don't tell lies so have nothing to hide and can recount whatever we need to immediately as it is fact unlike yourself who is a proven failure, liar, fantasist, need I go on....

told u befor stevie i dont like the hours i  will spend 2 hors per day getting bets on ie punchestown

so when i work am on around 3k an hour you work 7 days a week around 70 hours a week
give u 2 week hol 50 x 70  3500 divided by ave 100k = £35 per hour
a wd not get out my bed for that

does mart still work?  surely not all the £ he makes

Everything is a figment in his extremely vivid imagination, hard pushed to think of anything he has got right about anyone or anything in all his inane rants and ramblings on here in the guise of any of his different characters, I'll sleep on it though, might remember something eventually....!

smokey1919    Joined: 12 Apr 11
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its you who craves adulation on here babbling dither ,  i dont need anything am doing very well cheers

course you are...you cannot substantiate anything...you find the need to edit bets to try and impress...ive met thousands of Dc's like yourself..the worlds chocka block with them.

smokey1919,

are you ever likely to make your mind up for certain, you continuously say this and that about others including myself and you don't know the first thing about any of us.
Your fascination with me and how I spend my time would be flattering if it weren't said through gnashing teeth, there is only one fact that is important in assessing our individual merits and most people put great store by it, good old honesty, you lie continuously about anything and everything and have been banned for your misdemeanours on numerous occasions, and I tell the truth and am happy to answer any question put to me, no contest really....!

I had a Mate who was an accountant and he regularly placed bets on weekend racing along with another Chap
I remember him taking £50 off his Mate a cleaner weekly for their bets and telling him they were in profit
but wins were thin on the ground and after a number of weeks late into the Season the Friend stole a load
of family war medals off him as he was skint .

strangely mart has a Victoria Cross from when he trained the sas..

they can now eat a 42lb kebab quicker than anyone.

"correct, not that I'd expect many to take it on board" What's your view on this? When taken/advised prices provide lesser returns than the so-called highly efficient closing price? There's many who believe that beating the SP is the be-all and end-all. And that any profits gained from SPs come from sheer "luck" good fortune that will level out after a significant period of time/selections..as mean-reversion takes control..

That’s surely the problem when assessing odds of a lower probability. Vast amount of selections(much more than several hundred) are needed before any reasonable conclusion can be made on whether they hold any true value..

You can only compare advised prices against SP, Pro, and it's twice as much (even allowing for the fluke'. I thought you were on the wind up when you posted yesterday, it seems you weren't.

So the BFSP is irrelevant?

Pro, it is difficult to evaluate the merits of prices and when you should choose to play as it very much depends on who is making the selection and more importantly whether you have an account where you can make the appropriate bet at an advised price.
If you compare croosers results to someone like Taylor then you would be content if not fully satisfied at backing croosers tips at any time whereas obviously with Taylor (Hugh) the majority of time even if you get on, over any fair length of time you are likely to lose because you will not get on at the advised price often enough and of course eventually will be refused any wager at all.

Incomparable.

Corky, sure. kenbo, it's the only comparable as far as I'm concerned. Particularly when dealing with mid/long, top priced(mythical) odds..

I agree with you. The BFSP figures prove the point even more so.

But unless there's a decent early market to compare BFSP to, then it can't be compared imo. The figures would read... At advised Betfair early prices -85 points, at BFSP +200.