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Racecourses switching from ATR to the other lot with hardly any subscribers is fantastic news for racing to broaden its appeal.
Hopefully atr lose all the others so we can speed up the death of the sport. |
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Has there been any further developments re in play betting since the article below?
https://www.sis.tv/news/time-horse-racing-wager-play-opportunity/ |
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McCoy Carp 05 Jul 17 11:14 Joined: 02 Nov 05 | Topic/replies: 2,681 | Blogger: McCoy Carp's blog
Betfair is to blame for the current situation in racing. Bookies have counteracted the exchange by offering early prices and BOG. There is no point in the traditional punter going to the races anymore. What advantage is there with betting with an on course bookie? Now you have this ridiculous situation where racing is tied in with music. It's pathetic. Couldn't disagree more about going racing. Huge edge in seeing the horses to assess fitness/demeanour. Books do take a bet - it's up to me if I bet with on course books or here. Inevitably most of the longer priced ones are significantly bigger prices on here but at the front of the market prices near to or comparable to here allowing for commission especially if can secure fractions. Agree re music! |
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cut to the chase
racings lstrong link to gambling |
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Parispike, what percentage of potential punters/racegoers can assess the fitness/demeanour of horses well enough to have a significant profitable impact on their betting, bearing in mind the additional costs they need to offset by going racing?
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RUK always get the fitness demeanour wrong
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xmoneyx , they need to hire "value bet" jim
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I don't know BB. I try to keep costs down as much as possible but understand your point!
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where would you start?
entrance prices to racecourses for one the tv coverage is either nerdy by not very good nerds who think they are very, very good or by cretins who, by their very nature, have no idea how cretinous they are. and both sets, the nerds and the cretins have tendency to think the sport their to promote them, rather than vice-versa. i'd say the TV really does have big part to play and they'd do well to have a good look at some of the Aussie live racing shows. indeed perhaps TV has the biggest part to play given the way great coverage has turned around other sports there are some excellent exceptions among the commentators such as hoiles and holt and comperes such as catts and luck or analysts such as mellish and lydia the tote is a disgrace, scoop 6 not a good bet as the unit stake too high so no broad-base appeal, HK-type superbet like the Triple Trio much better i do agree with onlooker re the irony of the article being members only, ffs, how dumb is that. |
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If the Editor stopped blocking, on Twitter, everyone who has the temerity to disagree with him (however politely) it might help take away the perception that the only view that matters is his (and his paymasters of course).
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Parispike, it's hard to believe that the Racing Post or its woeful editor can possibly see their customers as anything other than something to be served up to the bookmaking industry, imo...
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The horseracing product does not appeal to the youth of today. Football has taken over massively. Advertising on tv by bookies usually focuses on the wide range of bets available on your phone in football matches.
On course, Betfair has ruined the market. Every book seems to offer the exact same prices. Rarely does a bookie take an opinion. Only the big meetings attract decent crowds. For the lesser meets, free entrance is a must. The shops are only interested in FOBT's, and until these machines are banned, betting shops should be renamed arcades. Can't see a way forward tbh.  |
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betfair is just simply competition as a result of technology so its only an argument for Luddites and football is competition to racing and at the moment does it better because racing is being kept in the dark ages as much as possible, its far more popular and familiar to the next generation, i'd advice anyone looking to bet in the longer term to develop a second sport to bet on because you never know the rate of decay of this one with they way its run
racing just doesnt listen to its customers |
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racing is in the position it is, because they do not have control of everything, courses , picture rights, betting etc
so every faction is in it for themselves and not for the better of racing and its future . |
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unless there is a clause in the levy contract, i don't see why horse racing ( BHA or whoever ) doesn't start opening their own betting shops with all profits going to racing , and not just the 10.75% bookmakers pay on there profits now . could also make a killing from the fobts .
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Today I had coffee with a friend of mine who still uses betting shops, he is a retired gentleman who I shall call Paddy. He placed a bet in a shop which advertised that if your horse came 2nd, 3rd or 4th to the fav in specific races you would get your money back as a free bet. He double checked that the race he was betting on was the one of two that qualified and was told yes. He backed two horses in the race to win and one of them came second to the fav. He went back to get his free bet and was told NO, only your first bet qualified which came nowhere. The advert which he has sent to IBAS said nothing about only one bet per race. He is not winning punter.
Now ask yourself, why is Racing losing customers |
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Olias, one of the most obscene parts of this deckchairs on the Titanic racing post feature, is that its own editor spends much of his time blocking his own consumers on Twitter, and telling the prime Racing Post target audience who use this forum that they're 'not safe to be let loose with a crayon' and that theirs are 'feeble, nasty, predictable, pocket-talking, barely regulated, anonymous viewpoints'
If racing has contempt for its own customers, then it's no surprise if those who care about the sport can no longer engage... |
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i am dubious as to big courses doing well, small courses/meetings poorly attended
i think the Arena/Northern Racing model to course ownership hasn't helped at all for one section of the racing stakeholders, but it certainly has paid off for themselves (whom i detest). when i'm home i always go to fontwell, plumpton and brighton. the first two named are well attended and brighton gets loads of corporates, indeed fontwell is often packed yet has the most derisory prize money. so i'd say racecourses are part of the problem, too, in terms of entrance fees (high) and prize money contributions (low) |
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i do agree race course entrance fees should be free or no more than £10 for non major meetings.
Mondays Ayr meeting is £15 in advance, which is one of the more reasonable priced tracks. |
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What racecourses should realise is they are offering about 15 minutes of action on a raceday.
About half of that action is out of range to spectators. People can bet away from the racecourse, they can get better food away from the racecourse. They have to spend money and time to get to racecourses, and pay to enter the racecourse. About half the races are handicaps which are designed to be a lottery. Racing needs to do a bit of thinking. |